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DJ Bible? MY AS*! Contradictions EVERYWHERE!

Babnik

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Read this from DJ Bible
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15995

Then this from DJ Bible
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15995



1. Girls smell desire which makes them think you are AFC and you are FINISHED.

2. Girls are insecure and don't KNOW whether you want them or not and with body language you have to let them KNOW you agenda and that you want them! You show desire!




Now, how you take advice from the DJ Bible when you have COMPLETELY contradictory things in them? I mean REALLY!?!

Lets say you are a good looking guy, which method will work best?

Lets say you are a bad looking guy, which method will work for you?



I believe for good looks - Gunwich, for bad ones - eliminate desire.




DJ Bible says JERKS are BALD in their sexual interest and then it says that jerks show that they do not want the girl! WHAT THE HELL?

How can you even RECOMMEND someone to read that stupid thing full of contradictions?!
 

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I don't quite know what you are getting at.

Half of me thinks that you are a crazed atheist using imagery (me too haha).

Other half says that you should read it and make up your own mind. Bear in mind that Sosuave and the Bible are not the only seduction material out there. The Sosuave Bible the best for emphasising how game can improve your life as a whole but for pure seduction try things like mASF etc.
 

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You posted two copies of the same thread.

But anyways, English has a lot of funny words like that. 'Desire' can be wanting something, or really needing something. The idea is to want a woman without needing her. That poster should have said "How to eliminate need."
 

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Watch the movie "The Tao of Steve."

There is a scene that describes the exact paradox you've noticed.

Oddly enough I was just reading up on Stoic realism and Stoicism in one of the new philosophy books my girl just bought me.

It talks about the power you gain and how nothing (And no person) can have power over you if you simply desire only what you can get.

My first thought was how contradictory this was to acheiving your goals and having high standards and getting what you truly want. After some deep thought and disection I came to the conclusion that you can get anything you want if you DO live by this philosphy and you will always be happy.

How?

You can always get better. If you desire to improve, you can. If you imrove for the sake of improvement you will put yourself into position to get what you desire. If you desire only what you can get, make yourself valuable enough to be capable of getting anything, then you can get whatever you desire.

If you CAN get a particular girl then you can show as much desire as you please toward her because by definition YOU CAN GET HER.


But in a simplified answer to your question, desire delved from desperation is what will kill your chance with a girl. I truly first began acheiving success when I lost my desire to be with women.
 

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teflon, also watch "the life of david gale".

In it, there is a discussion explaining how with desire, the moment you achieve the thing that you desire, you are destined to not desire it anymore. He goes on to explain that happiness comes from living your life according to ideals and not by the things that you can accumulate through your ideals.

In the movie, David Gale, the university professor is sentanced to death for the rape and murder of one of his associates.
 

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Back to the original post... there are quite a few contradictions in the Bible, and I've spouted long ago about slimming up the fat, but to no avail.

I'm more concerned about the level of bad advice in the DJ Bible than of there being contradictions... because well... in a world of paradox you can have ( A != B when A = B ) don't believe it, I'm too lazy to search for sources. but it's been documented that a thing can exist in 2 places at the same time.
 

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The Bible isn't nearly as effective if you spot read it. Much DJ success is based on either stacking or linking several concepts depending on the situation you're experiencing. Taking away snippets of it seldom works. That's why there's so many posts saying "I did this.... Now what???!!!" They probably read only one thing in the Bible believing it would work in every instance. Think about it, is there anything definite about women other than their actions aren't definite?
 

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I agree with the orignal poster of this thread about this very issue. It is very contradictory.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Think about it, is there anything definite about women other than their actions aren't definite?
this guy nailed it on the spot. dont be fooled the dj bible isnt the key for sucess for ur life, it is the start pointing to get u in the right direction, it will only open the door, u have to walk through it. the bible is only made to give u a great mind set. the rest u have to decide.. if ur on a date.. all the stuff that comes out ur mouth is from u, not the bible.. the bible only got u the date. it told u how to get the date.. u know what i mean? if it was that easy, woman wouldnt be soo damn difficuit. think about it.

trial and error my friend but u best be doing something rather than nothing
the bible tells u how u should think, and it teaches u self respect which alot of mofo lack.
 

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Just like the Christian Bible (which is also full of contridictions) the DJ Bible was written at different times, by a lot of different guys for different situations, dealing with different women.

No ONE thing works for every girl. No two girls are exactly alike, no two places you meet them will be exactly alike either. What makes one laugh will make another punch you in the mouth. You take from the Bible things that you can use as "Plan A", "Plan B" and maybe "Plan C". They are things that have worked for others, perhaps they will work for you too!
 

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Oh so now we come from threads where same posters are sure about things that women want to replies where everyone agrees that every woman is DIFFERENT!

See, it seems none can hold their opinion when you show a contradiction.

If trial and error is the way to go - the hell with all this, nobody needs it.



I just wanted to show you how even YOU, the DJ society doesn't know what women want! You haven't a CLUE! Just like Freud!
 

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Babnik said:
Oh so now we come from threads where same posters are sure about things that women want to replies where everyone agrees that every woman is DIFFERENT!

See, it seems none can hold their opinion when you show a contradiction.

If trial and error is the way to go - the hell with all this, nobody needs it.



I just wanted to show you how even YOU, the DJ society doesn't know what women want! You haven't a CLUE! Just like Freud!
Freud: I am quite perplexed by your theories, I dont know vether to be shocked or offended by your verds that you posted bro.
 

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Isn't the bible just a bunch of posters from here sharing their experience... isn't that all these books are?

You've got to find what works best for you given your demeanor and the many aspects of your personality... one dude obviously found that showing his desire a certain way was effective, while another found that he had to hold off on the desire in order to be successful... maybe it was the way each guy expressed desire, or what each guy considers 'desire' to be...

Simply put, you're not going to read a little material and be pimpin... you need to read, think about what you're read then get out in the field and experience all of this applying the things you've read to determine what really works for YOU...
 

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LA_Chico said:
Freud: I am quite perplexed by your theories, I dont know vether to be shocked or offended by your verds that you posted bro.

When people asked Sigmund Freud about what women want - he said "I don't know" after all his research...


Just like people here don't know. Every advice has an opposite advice to it.
In the end, I guess its about who is right for you and women are different...
 

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Babnik said:
If trial and error is the way to go - the hell with all this, nobody needs it.
I just wanted to show you how even YOU, the DJ society doesn't know what women want! You haven't a CLUE! Just like Freud!
you got it wrong again, your not understanding. the BIBLE isnt a way out! it will not get you a 2 year relationship. hell it wont even get a 3 month relationship. it just tells u how woman think! it tells u how they act and how their behaviour differs from men. you need to understand those concepts and APPLY TO the real games. thats where trial and error comes in.

u gotta apply what u understood from the bible into the real game.
theres alot of great stuff and honestly i learned alot from the bible. it has great stuff but if your not smart enough to contract the stuff from there and to apply then u need help. sorry but its like grade 6 math.

the way you put "trial and error" is wrong because if the way you do it, you will end up failing everysingle time and getting heart broken every singal time. honeslty i think you're having a problem understanding the bible. read the **** again and read it SLOW. dont skim parts.

i give u an example. a guy goes to the gym everyday. trys to work out. tries different things. works hard but yet hes not doing anything right. his from is crap. hes not eating right but hes tryin his best. hes lifting hard weights. hes waking up in the morning just to go to the gym. but yet he isnt growing cuz hes doing it all wrong! thats waste. if you going to invest qauilty time into something. make sure you invest quailty into it first!
 

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sexy_kuta said:
you got it wrong again, your not understanding. the BIBLE isnt a way out! it will not get you a 2 year relationship. hell it wont even get a 3 month relationship. it just tells u how woman think! it tells u how they act and how their behaviour differs from men. you need to understand those concepts and APPLY TO the real games. thats where trial and error comes in.

u gotta apply what u understood from the bible into the real game.
theres alot of great stuff and honestly i learned alot from the bible. it has great stuff but if your not smart enough to contract the stuff from there and to apply then u need help. sorry but its like grade 6 math.

the way you put "trial and error" is wrong because if the way you do it, you will end up failing everysingle time and getting heart broken every singal time. honeslty i think you're having a problem understanding the bible. read the **** again and read it SLOW. dont skim parts.

i give u an example. a guy goes to the gym everyday. trys to work out. tries different things. works hard but yet hes not doing anything right. his from is crap. hes not eating right but hes tryin his best. hes lifting hard weights. hes waking up in the morning just to go to the gym. but yet he isnt growing cuz hes doing it all wrong! thats waste. if you going to invest qauilty time into something. make sure you invest quailty into it first!


I don't undertand how to explain this to you...one article in the Bible says that women think way A and the other article says they think B and A is opposite of B. Get it?

You either apply A or B.

BTW, regardless of how you eat, if you do workout hard every day you will see a long-term difference.

How can you workout WRONG while lifting heavy weights in sets and reps, lol?!
 

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Where are the other contradictions?

In regards to desire on whether to show it or not is more up to the person.

Indirect vs. Direct method both work. Its the personality of the person.

"Know thyself"

"Take what is useful and disregard what is not"

This is an art not a science. You must play with it to find out what works for you and the type of person you are.
 

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Are you a lawyer?

The DJ Bible is simply a collection of internet posts, most of them quite useful. We all recognize it as a flawed but helpful mosaic that costs....nothing. Take what's useful, forget the rest.

I bet you'd complain about how much your wallet bulges because of your roll of twenties or how hard you have to work to give a girl an orgasm.

Wolf

Babnik said:
Read this from DJ Bible
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15995

Then this from DJ Bible
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15995



1. Girls smell desire which makes them think you are AFC and you are FINISHED.

2. Girls are insecure and don't KNOW whether you want them or not and with body language you have to let them KNOW you agenda and that you want them! You show desire!




Now, how you take advice from the DJ Bible when you have COMPLETELY contradictory things in them? I mean REALLY!?!

Lets say you are a good looking guy, which method will work best?

Lets say you are a bad looking guy, which method will work for you?



I believe for good looks - Gunwich, for bad ones - eliminate desire.




DJ Bible says JERKS are BALD in their sexual interest and then it says that jerks show that they do not want the girl! WHAT THE HELL?

How can you even RECOMMEND someone to read that stupid thing full of contradictions?!
 
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