Divorced Women and The Baggage They Carry

[Mr.Positive]

The DJ math doesn't account for husband's death, being a wife beater, a child abuser, a financial misfit, a criminal with no redeeming values, and a total f'up himself. Let's not bash women completely here, there is some ownership on the otherside.

Sorry to refute the math, but it was rather creative and interesting.

You didn't refute the math, you just added to it.

For each one of these, we'll subtract 1 fvckup. So, if young & single with kid = 2 x fvckup. If the father of the kid was a low-life, it would equal 1 total fvckup, instead of 2.

DJ Math is really coming together.

 

[Wyldfire]

Right, but if you factor in a woman getting involved with a wife beater, financial misfit, a criminal, and a fvckup, then you count her bad judgement/poor taste/lack of discretion as a fvckup. Women reject men for less all the time.

The husband dying is pretty much the only thing that would nullify "divorce" as a fvckup. But, in that case, it wouldn't be a divorce. And, a widow would still be pretty fvcked up emotionally (trust issues, PTSD, whatever), so you would STILL count it as a "fvckup", albeit one she had no control over. You'd count it as a strike, but not a "fvckup".

And men who get involved with women who treat them badly are also guilty of poor judgement. That means every single man on this forum must be a low quality man by your reasoning.

 

[Mr.Positive]

And men who get involved with women who treat them badly are also guilty of poor judgement. That means every single man on this forum must be a low quality man by your reasoning.

That's it Wyldfire, the equator. If our total fvckups equals the woman's total fvckups, it may be good match. DJ Math rocks!

 

[Wyldfire]

What? No shame and blame? Well, you are still trying to discredit more reliable and authoritative sources.

I'm supporting my family just fine...and I have great kids. In fact, my kids are better behaved than the vast majority of kids raised by two parents. Having the father's support and involvement is good. That is THE father...the other parent...not some other guy. If what you say is true there would be no single mothers because there are plenty of men willing to marry them. Remember...the world is full of AFCs, as many of you on here claim repeatedly.

If women could not raise their children alone there wouldn't be any women doing it. No women would leave bad husbands and all women would settle for the first man that came along instead of being a picky and demanding as you claim them to be.

You guys contradict yourself so much...all done to justify the victim mentality and incessant blaming of women for you own shortcomings. Talk about baggage...

 

[Vulpine]

And men who get involved with women who treat them badly are also guilty of poor judgement. FALSE! GUILTY OF BEING AFC! That means every single man on this forum must be a low quality man by your reasoning. FALSE!! LACK OF READING/COMPREHENSION SKILLS!

Wow, you really reach down in there to pull out the best nuggets of crap from your azz. "Get involved with" is not "marry". "Date" means "get involved with". If someone dated, then married a woman athat "treated them badly", then they are guilty of being an AFC. A woman's treatment of a man does not determine the value or quality of a man by any stretch of the imagination. And "every single man"??? Wow... way to alienate an already ever-growing crowd of people who already have a distaste for your posting.

Hey, here's some matches and gasoline. Burn all the bridges you want.

 

[Vulpine]

I'm supporting my family just fine...Who cares?and I have great kids. SPECULATION, IRRELEVANT PROJECTION OF FEELINGS, LIAR. In fact, my kids are better behaved than the vast majority of kids raised by two parents. SPECULATION, IRRELEVANT PROJECTION OF FEELINGS, LIAR. Having the father's support and involvement is good. That is THE father...the other parent...not some other guy. ...on a daily basis, as in, in a family structure such as that provided in a "marriage". If what you say is true there would be no single mothers because there are plenty of men willing to marry them. It is true. And there is, but women have jacked attitudes and keep holding out for "bigger and better". Remember...the world is full of AFCs, as many of you on here claim repeatedly. I didn't forget.

If women could not raise their children alone there wouldn't be any women doing it. WOMEN CAN RAISE FVCKED UP CHILDREN ALL BY THEMSELVES, I'M NOT DENYING THAT. No women would leave bad husbands and all women would settle for the first man that came along instead of being a picky and demanding as you claim them to be. LOST IN EMOTIONAL DREAMLAND! JUST IMAGINE...SPECULATION, IRRELEVANT PROJECTION OF FEELINGS, LIAR.

You guys contradict yourself so much...all done to justify the victim mentality and incessant blaming of women for you own shortcomings. AHHH... THERE'S THE SHAME AND BLAME. OOH, AND YOU GOT THE DISCREDITING BIT IN THERE TOO! NICE! Talk about baggage...IRRELEVANT PROJECTION OF FEELINGS, LIAR.

You've gone beyond "concern troll" at this point. You can now add "spammer" to your resume.

 

[Wyldfire]

All I've done is point out the biological imperatives, nowhere did I state that women exclusively view sex for reproductive purposes only. I did however point out that these mechanisms, for both sexes, are all active whether we choose to recognize them or not.

No, you didn't state it...you intentionally left it out. However, the theory that you are taking the biological imperatives you cite from also claims that women desire to mate solely for the purpose of bearing children.

What I don't get about you Rollo is that you are supposedly a counselor, which requires the same training and education that I am currently getting. This place is the biggest circle jerk of victim mentality, justification, blaming everyone else for their own shorcomings and mistakes, etc. Instead of try to help these guys overcome things that are going to make them miserable throughout their lives and send them to an early grave you enable them. It pisses me off because of all people, you should KNOW better.

A couple of weeks ago I spotted a member here with all the tell tale signs of a very serious disorder. I PMed you and asked you to go take a look at that thread and try to help that guy. You ignored the PM. The only thing I can figure is that you either really hate your job/field or that you just don't give a sh*t anymore. Blaming me for the bad behavior of those that were attacking me on those other threads was essentially the same thing as the other blaming and justification seen running rampant on here. Maybe your objectivity is gone and the site has begun to rub off on you, I don't know...but some personal reflection is in order. I'm not saying this to be a biotch...I'm saying it because you need to hear it.

 

[Wyldfire]

You are way off base here Wyldfire. Women cannot raise a quality child by themselves, especially a son. Without a father, the son has no guidance into masculinity. What usually happens is the son becomes feminized, or the son is forced to raise himself, which is truly sad. Look for statistics on how kids fare when they are raised by a whole family compared to a single mother... the results will speak for themselves.

I have two sons who are very masculine, responsible, extremely popular with girls, confident, secure and don't buy into the way society tries to make men feel guilty for being men. They are 16 and 18. My boys are in far better shape mentally and emotionally than any of their friends...including those with two parent families. My boys are not at all "femininzed". My best friend is also a single mother of two boys and they turned out just as my sons have...but their Mom is very much like me.

 

[Wyldfire]

Wow, you really reach down in there to pull out the best nuggets of crap from your azz. "Get involved with" is not "marry". "Date" means "get involved with". If someone dated, then married a woman athat "treated them badly", then they are guilty of being an AFC. A woman's treatment of a man does not determine the value or quality of a man by any stretch of the imagination. And "every single man"??? Wow... way to alienate an already ever-growing crowd of people who already have a distaste for your posting.

Hey, here's some matches and gasoline. Burn all the bridges you want.

Oh...so I guess all those women who are divorced and are guilty of poor choices were married to themselves, huh? There are a lot of divorced men on this site, and accoding to your logic each and every one of them are essentially worthless because everyone who ever gets divorced is low quality.

 

[Vulpine]

No, you didn't state it...you intentionally left it out. However, the theory that you are taking the biological imperatives you cite from also claims that women desire to mate solely for the purpose of bearing children.

What I don't get about you Rollo is that you are supposedly a counselor, which requires the same training and education that I am currently getting. DISCREDIT? PERSONAL ATTACKS? This place is the biggest circle jerk of victim mentality, justification, blaming everyone else for their own shorcomings and mistakes, etc. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, THEN LEAVE? Instead of try to help these guys overcome things that are going to make them miserable throughout their lives and send them to an early grave you enable them. SPECULATION? EMOTIONAL AND IRRELEVANT? A SENTANCE THAT MAKES NO SENSE? It pisses me off because of all people, you should KNOW better. SHOULD WE CARE IF A DIVORCED, OLD, CONCERN TROLL WITH KIDS IS PISSED? IRRELEVANT!

A couple of weeks ago I spotted a member here with all the tell tale signs of a very serious disorder. I PMed you and asked you to go take a look at that thread and try to help that guy. YOU SHOULD HAVE CALLED AN AMBULANCE? You ignored the PM. I WOULD IGNORE YOUR SPAM, TOO. The only thing I can figure is that you either really hate your job/field or that you just don't give a sh*t anymore. SPECULATION, IRRELEVANT. Blaming me for the bad behavior of those that were attacking me on those other threads was essentially the same thing as the other blaming and justification seen running rampant on here. WHICH BLAMING? THE BLAMING MEN FOR PROBLEMS YOU DO? NOW YOU ARE CALLING OUT YOUR OWN CRAP? Maybe your objectivity is gone and the site has begun to rub off on you, I don't know...but some personal reflection is in order. SOME PERSONAL REFLECTION IS IN ORDER ON YOUR PART. WHO ARE YOU TO TELL A MAN, A DJ NO LESS, WHAT TO DO? I'm not saying this to be a biotch...I'm saying it because you need to hear it. WHO ARE YOU TO TELL A MAN, A DJ NO LESS WHAT HE SHOULD HEAR? IS HE AN OLD, DIVORCED, SINGLE MOTHER? IF HE WERE, YOU'D HAVE SOME VALID ADVICE.

Ah... watch as the bridges burn.

Frank, you still want to date an older, divorced woman with kids? Dude, they are freaking :crazy:!

 

[Desdinova]

I think it's safe to say this thread has run it's course. Time to lock it up in the sosuave vault.