Disgust with women

[Yo'Mama]

While, as per my previous post, I'm happy not to be married (an LTR with the right girl would be ok), the more I date and the longer I'm single the deeper and more ingrained my disgust and contempt for women becomes.

These days I'm in a state of cognitive dissonance - I think about girls a lot and put a decent amount of effort into pursuing them but at the same time I like less and less about them (their looks being an obvious exception).

I can enjoy their company but it's only because I like the chase. Once I've slept with them a few times I become bored and then want to move onto the next target. While all of the women I have been involved with and will continue to be involved with are attractive, none of them has been absolutely smoking hot. To be honest out of all the girls I know, only one (a 24 year old married Russian that works for the same company as me) is so hot that I would actually feel lucky to ****. Her husband is some Russian oligarch though, lol.

The game is also harder than it should be. Does it come very easy to any of you guys? I'm tall, in shape and above average looking (for most people anyway). My game isn't great to be honest so I suppose that's something to work on. Still, I hate feeling that I have to do all the work and I have to always make things happen. These *****es expect us to do everything. We have to approach them, we have to take them out and then, for ****'s sakes, over drinks that we are probably paying for they expect us to entertain them. Either that or we have to put up with their insufferable verbal diarrhoea, all so we can **** them later on.

It just seems like a lot of effort for little reward. As for having good game, well if you look at a blog like Roosh (who has dedicated his life to picking up women and writing third rate books), read between the lines and it's obvious that the guy doesn't get laid very much and when he does it's with decentish women only.

I think to be regularly getting the 9s and 10s you need to be famous (another thing I can't stand about women is their obsession with fame. You could take the most average looking, talentless guy, make him a star and *****es would be queuing up around the block to **** him. I don't care if a woman is famous or not. I really want to **** Jessica Alba whether she's a Hollywood star or a checkout clerk).

I would like to be proved wrong. To those that are regularly getting the very hot women, how are you doing it? Clubs are difficult. I can go to a club and probably pull a 7 or 8 on a good night. But even that 7 or 8 is getting a whole tonne of attention. There might only be a couple of 9's in the place and they will be deluged by guys trying to pick them up. Most of them don't even end up hooking up anyway, they just go home, ego even more bloated that it was before.

Sorry to sound negative and jaded. I really don't want to think like this. I would like to believe there are a lot of good women out there but I don't see it. Social circle game is out because most of my social circle are now getting married and having kids. That's not what I want either but this game be fierce yo. I want to get to a place where I'm regularly banging 9s. I'm tired of the 7s and 8s. None of the women I'm meeting have much to offer besides their looks so I want to at least maximise and focus on the one quality that women do have, i.e their tits and ass.

 

[Eruption]

While, as per my previous post, I'm happy not to be married (an LTR with the right girl would be ok), the more I date and the longer I'm single the deeper and more ingrained my disgust and contempt for women becomes.

These days I'm in a state of cognitive dissonance - I think about girls a lot and put a decent amount of effort into pursuing them but at the same time I like less and less about them (their looks being an obvious exception).

I can enjoy their company but it's only because I like the chase. Once I've slept with them a few times I become bored and then want to move onto the next target. While all of the women I have been involved with and will continue to be involved with are attractive, none of them has been absolutely smoking hot. To be honest out of all the girls I know, only one (a 24 year old married Russian that works for the same company as me) is so hot that I would actually feel lucky to ****. Her husband is some Russian oligarch though, lol.

The game is also harder than it should be. Does it come very easy to any of you guys? I'm tall, in shape and above average looking (for most people anyway). My game isn't great to be honest so I suppose that's something to work on. Still, I hate feeling that I have to do all the work and I have to always make things happen. These *****es expect us to do everything. We have to approach them, we have to take them out and then, for ****'s sakes, over drinks that we are probably paying for they expect us to entertain them. Either that or we have to put up with their insufferable verbal diarrhoea, all so we can **** them later on.

It just seems like a lot of effort for little reward. As for having good game, well if you look at a blog like Roosh (who has dedicated his life to picking up women and writing third rate books), read between the lines and it's obvious that the guy doesn't get laid very much and when he does it's with decentish women only.

I think to be regularly getting the 9s and 10s you need to be famous (another thing I can't stand about women is their obsession with fame. You could take the most average looking, talentless guy, make him a star and *****es would be queuing up around the block to **** him. I don't care if a woman is famous or not. I really want to **** Jessica Alba whether she's a Hollywood star or a checkout clerk).

I would like to be proved wrong. To those that are regularly getting the very hot women, how are you doing it? Clubs are difficult. I can go to a club and probably pull a 7 or 8 on a good night. But even that 7 or 8 is getting a whole tonne of attention. There might only be a couple of 9's in the place and they will be deluged by guys trying to pick them up. Most of them don't even end up hooking up anyway, they just go home, ego even more bloated that it was before.

Sorry to sound negative and jaded. I really don't want to think like this. I would like to believe there are a lot of good women out there but I don't see it. Social circle game is out because most of my social circle are now getting married and having kids. That's not what I want either but this game be fierce yo. I want to get to a place where I'm regularly banging 9s. I'm tired of the 7s and 8s. None of the women I'm meeting have much to offer besides their looks so I want to at least maximise and focus on the one quality that women do have, i.e their tits and ass.

You don't sound negative or jaded, just realistic. Welcome to the world of the "Matrix". The fact is, there really are no "good" woman out there. At least not in America. The chances of finding a "good" 8-9HB is even more impossible. I know it's depressing, but this is reality.

Men really only have themselves to blame though. Society as whole led us to this point. The quality of pvssy is going down, but the value is only getting higher. Men slave day in, day out for just a small piece of the pie. What for though? To get married and get financially fvcked later? To be forced to pay child support? To cheat on you and run off with the pool boy? Marriage seems absolutely stupid in this day and age.

Too many men put low quality pvssy on the pedastool. Woman don't even need to try and better themselves because they get male attention constantly. All they have to do is log into facebook and they have dozens of men telling them how "pretty" they are, or agreeing with them (even if it's degrading to them or men as a whole) just to get into their pants. It's sickening. Men lost their balls.

It's in society, television, movies, everywhere. Woman now have the upper hand. It all started from the woman's rights movement. It's no longer about "quality", there is nothing equal about it. Woman have the upper hand. 50 years ago, this would not be tolerated. Look what happened to society. Now it's men trying to qualify themselves to the woman, and like you said, these woman aren't sh!t.

I'm disgusted with woman just as much as you are, but almost even more disgusted with the pvssy men who let woman run amok the way they are. If every man just made sense of this and treated these woman like the trash they really are things wouldn't be this way. It's detrimental to both men and woman. You always hear woman complaining about how they can't find a "man", well duh, that's because you turned them all into pvssies.

Long story short, man up people.

 

[SharinganUser]

You guys should pity the women, not be disgusted by them.

 

[Eruption]

You guys should pity the women, not be disgusted by them.

And what should I pity them for? The fact that they can manipulate men to get whatever they want? Cut in front of the grocery line just because they have tits? Getting constant gifts, validation, and immediate sex whenever they want?

The only thing I pity them for is their stupidity and their emotionally driven irrationality. But hell, they're smart enough to know how to manipulate men in their favor. I can't even really say that anymore.

It's getting to the point where being ****y doesn't even work anymore. If you're being an "*******" she has 10 other guys lined up to make her feel wanted. Sure, they may not be a quality DJ, but who said she was even looking for a man to settle down with? This is the new age. She won't start worrying about that until her looks have faded.

 

[Yo'Mama]

Thanks Erupution. Good reply.

Yes of course, I feel the same about how men have given all the power to women. It's a small example but in the club last night I couldn't help but notice all the guys literally acting like dancing monkeys trying to hook up with mediocre girls. It was like they felt they had to put on a show for these *****es. And what do the women do? Just stand there looking fairly bored.

I've often seen great looking guys being blown off by the most average girls. You're right that things like Facebook don't do any good at all in dampening these idiots' egos. And almost every time a girl puts some slutty pic up there will be 10 guys paying her compliments. Who are these fools? I really feel like making some derogatory remark but I'm sure if I did everyone would turn on me because it's not the done thing, lol.

To be honest the hottest girls I see are often with douchey guys. If I see a really hot girl with a good looking guy who has his act together I don't begrudge that guy one bit. But when I see a 9 with some tool wearing wrap-around shades, some porkpie hat and sporting chin pubes I just want to mace them both. It might just be me but I find that whenever I see a very hot girl, the common trait that is present in all of the guys that these girls will be with, is that they have some annoying quality about them. Maybe wearing sunglasses at night, maybe chin pubes, maybe some weird haircut.

I don't know. I think if I really wanted to get girls and was willing to do anything to get them I would a) try to be generally obnoxious and b) acquire some clothing or other accessory that made me stand out. Often these guys aren't good looking at all (which is why I don't understand all the threads saying you have to be good looking to get hot girls - it's manifestly not true) but just have some arrogant quality about them. Girls are appalling at distinguishing the real deal from the fake bull**** though, so I think you just have to look and do a half decent job of acting the part. The guy may just be a shell with nothing to back up his arrogance but it doesn't matter.

I just wish girls had better taste in guys (and no that doesn't mean me, lol, i mean just generally). It's nice to see an attractive well matched couple strolling down the street. It's annoying to see a hot chick with some douchebag guy. And to anyone that's going to say that the douchebag guy is the winner because he's the one getting the hot girls, well yeah fine but he's still a ****ing douchebag at the end of the day. And ***** is only worth so much. Will I try to develop game a bit? Yes. Keep in shape? Yes, but that's more for me. Will I lose my integrity or sell my soul just to get laid more? No, **** that ****. I'd rather bang escorts who are 9's than act like some guido just to get poon.

Women are a ****ing disgrace. Just seeing the way they behave in clubs sickens me. They're so goddamn passive. They just sit there texting away and expecting to be entertained. They really are hollow, vapid shells. In the absence of guys I'm not sure that they have definable, consistent personalities. I think even the girls we end up liking the most just effectively mirror our own personalities. We never use words like 'charismatic' or 'charming' in relation to women. They don't have those qualities. Sex appeal is all they have and most of them don't even know how to use that to make guys feel good.

I don't want someone who is 'better' than me. I just want someone at my level, overall. I don't think it's too much to ask but the women I'm meeting are waaaayyyyy below. Jesus I don't even think most of us are asking for too much. Just a nice little hardbody who keeps herself in shape, offers to pay occasionally and doesn't bore you with stories about her day in minute, excruciating, mirthless detail.

 

[Tyson420]

It wasn't like this 30 years ago.

What I'd do for a Time Machine... I'd break up every feminist movement.

 

[SharinganUser]

Being disgusted is a strong emotional response to a negative stimuli.

I pity the type of women mention in this thread because no matter how much they manipulate men, no matter how much they con a guy for, they are never going to be fulfilled or be truly happy. I know that sounds cliche, but it's true. *I've never seen a couple out in public where both the man and woman looked happy. Usually it's the man who looks happy and the woman looks unsatisfied.

You have to keep in mind that most women these days have no close friends. Most women's friendships are unstable at best, which is another reason to pity them. You might see a group being all chummy with one another, but I would bet dollars to donuts that if their pecking order shifts slightly for any reason, **** will hit the fan.

*EDIT

 

[cablecow15]

women hit there prime very young , by the time they are 30 most of them are disgusting , I pity them for this reason i and most men dont even hit our prime till 30 , and by them most of them are burnt out , wait till you see how pathetic they are when they realize that they cant get what they want anymore from their looks , its like the popular kids at high school that become sad cheap fat burnouts later in life , its extremely satisfying...

 

[Yo'Mama]

That's a good point Cablecow. It's one reason I don't want to date women over 30. Unfortunately these are the easiest women to find.

The women over 30 who aren't married with kids basically lose the plot, completely. They become insane. Those who do get married and have kids don't always go insane but what many of them do is take out their bitterness over losing the only thing that ever counted (their looks and the attention and power it brought them) on their husband and sometimes kid.

Of course not all marriages are like this but I know a disturbing number that are.

I want to **** women of course. I like the thrill of the kill and all that. I'm just fed up dealing with their bull****. In fact I refuse to do it. As soon as they start playing up they are gone. I would still love to meet attractive, interesting, charming, considerate and honest women. But it's like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

 

[SharinganUser]

women hit there prime very young , by the time they are 30 most of them are disgusting , I pity them for this reason i and most men dont even hit our prime till 30 , and by them most of them are burnt out , wait till you see how pathetic they are when they realize that they cant get what they want anymore from their looks , its like the popular kids at high school that become sad cheap fat burnouts later in life , its extremely satisfying...

I am 27 and I live in a small town. Most of the women in my town are that are my age are fat and/or/from being knocked up. I just think "Wow, sucks to be them." and then go on with my day. I just don't see the point in getting so bent out of shape about something you can't really control.

From a physical stand point, yes I agree women can and often do become disgusting. But I negate that by not looking at them, or touching them(the uggo's that is).

 

[annette<3]

you sound like an ass.

 

[Jaylan]

Like you said OP. Its our own collective wrong doing was men that has done this. Man if somehow, all of the great PUAs of the world could create a device to control men, and make us value our standards and dignity over sex, then things would even out. Because it would get rid of the female train of thought that guys will always be coming after her left and right no matter what her number rating is empirically.

 

[Zarky]

While, as per my previous post, I'm happy not to be married (an LTR with the right girl would be ok), the more I date and the longer I'm single the deeper and more ingrained my disgust and contempt for women becomes.

Then you're taking yourself far too seriously.

These days I'm in a state of cognitive dissonance - I think about girls a lot and put a decent amount of effort into pursuing them but at the same time I like less and less about them (their looks being an obvious exception).

This means you don't actually see them as human beings. Women can sense this.

I can enjoy their company but it's only because I like the chase. Once I've slept with them a few times I become bored and then want to move onto the next target.

This is fairly natural.

While all of the women I have been involved with and will continue to be involved with are attractive, none of them has been absolutely smoking hot. To be honest out of all the girls I know, only one (a 24 year old married Russian that works for the same company as me) is so hot that I would actually feel lucky to ****. Her husband is some Russian oligarch though, lol.

This is normal. Unless you're really powerful the odds of you landing a really hot girl are a million to one.

The game is also harder than it should be.

Define "should" in this context. Evolution makes the rules, not you and I. Doesn't mean we have to like it though.

Does it come very easy to any of you guys? I'm tall, in shape and above average looking (for most people anyway).

It comes easy to no man.

My game isn't great to be honest so I suppose that's something to work on. Still, I hate feeling that I have to do all the work and I have to always make things happen. These *****es expect us to do everything. We have to approach them, we have to take them out and then, for ****'s sakes, over drinks that we are probably paying for they expect us to entertain them. Either that or we have to put up with their insufferable verbal diarrhoea, all so we can **** them later on.

You're preaching to the choir brother, but if you want poon that's what you have to do.

It just seems like a lot of effort for little reward.

You've just described life itself.

As for having good game, well if you look at a blog like Roosh (who has dedicated his life to picking up women and writing third rate books), read between the lines and it's obvious that the guy doesn't get laid very much and when he does it's with decentish women only.

Same with every "guru."

I think to be regularly getting the 9s and 10s you need to be famous (another thing I can't stand about women is their obsession with fame. )

That's in their nature, why does it make you hate them personally? Men are preoccupied with looks, women are preoccupied with status. Deal with it.

I would like to be proved wrong. To those that are regularly getting the very hot women, how are you doing it? Clubs are difficult. I can go to a club and probably pull a 7 or 8 on a good night. But even that 7 or 8 is getting a whole tonne of attention. There might only be a couple of 9's in the place and they will be deluged by guys trying to pick them up. Most of them don't even end up hooking up anyway, they just go home, ego even more bloated that it was before.

No man regularly gets hot women unless he's rich, powerful, or famous. Why do you think every man wants to be rich, powerful, and famous?

Sorry to sound negative and jaded. I really don't want to think like this. I would like to believe there are a lot of good women out there but I don't see it.

What you fail to understand is that your definition of "good" is "attractive women who will have sex with me." You're not thinking objectively, you're too busy taking yourself seriously.

Social circle game is out because most of my social circle are now getting married and having kids. That's not what I want either but this game be fierce yo. I want to get to a place where I'm regularly banging 9s.

No man in history other than maybe emperors with 10000 concubines has ever gotten to a place where he's "regularly banging 9s."

Get a grip bub. Life sucks, lower your expectations or you will be constantly disappointed.

 

[zekko]

I think to be regularly getting the 9s and 10s you need to be famous

This seems to be what a lot of guys around here want, an endless supply of 9s and 10s. Honestly, this is basically equivalent to a woman thinking she is entitled to a never ending stable of rich, famous, good looking men to court her.

If you think about it a little, it sounds absurd. "Life is so hard, I don't regularly get 9s and 10s". As if everyone in life is guaranteed a harem made up of only 9s and 10s.

 

[Maxtro]

I can enjoy their company but it's only because I like the chase. Once I've slept with them a few times I become bored and then want to move onto the next target. While all of the women I have been involved with and will continue to be involved with are attractive, none of them has been absolutely smoking hot.

You sound like a spoiled brat.

Seriously, read over what you wrote again.

Just because you're above average in looks you think you're entitled to having a harem of 9's and 10's? Give me a fucking break.

You do realize that there are guys on this board who would absolutely love to have a girl that is just a 6? Guy's who have gone years without sex? Guy's who wonder if they should loose their virginity to hookers and guy's who are thinking about killing themselves because they can't get a girl at all?

You don't know shit.

 

[Eruption]

You sound like a spoiled brat.

Seriously, read over what you wrote again.

Just because you're above average in looks you think you're entitled to having a harem of 9's and 10's? Give me a fucking break.

You do realize that there are guys on this board who would absolutely love to have a girl that is just a 6? Guy's who have gone years without sex? Guy's who wonder if they should loose their virginity to hookers and guy's who are thinking about killing themselves because they can't get a girl at all?

You don't know shit.

So who are we supposed to pity? The brothers or the woman?

I feel for them in a way, because I was once like that.. but it's not really my problem. Call me a sociopath, but I don't really care. Some of us want MORE and aren't satisfied for settling with what's at the bottom of the barrel. You are pretty much rationalizing my point exactly. The reason why woman don't have to better themselves. We should just let them continue being the scum they are right? I mean SOMEONE has to be willing to take them. What kind of a fvcking mindset is that? I don't know about you but I'm pretty disgusted with woman, men, and society in general. What makes it worse is that there's not a damn thing I can do about it, then we have guys like you who are supposed to be on the same side rationalizing and making up excuses for woman why they can continue on their trashy lifestyle. It makes me sick.

 

[Maxtro]

Where did I make up excuses for women?

The problem is with guys like Yo'Mama and women. Loser guys aren't innocent either.

My real issue is seeing people complain that their filet mignon isn't good enough and should be tossed out while there are people outside trying to get by on Mc Donald's.

Sadly, that is just the way the world is.

 

[Robert28]

dude, i feel your pain and frustration when it comes to women these days. i have very little respect for 90% of the women i meet or have met lately.

in just this year(2011) i'll give you a rundown of my encounters to strenghten your argument about women.

1. i had this one girl cancel on me TWICE, so i chalked it up to her being a big time flake, i deleted her number, said the hell with her, and went on my way. she texts me and wonders why i haven't talked to her in awhile...i dont respond. she texts me again asking me if "we're cool"...again i dont respond. what does she do? she starts spreading rumors about me to people that i'm a player, all i wanted was some @$$, i was a jerk, etc.....she did forget to mention that she cancelled on me twice however. funny how that slipped her mind huh?

2. i have this snaggled tooth trailer park queen tell me "i'm not her type, i wasn't athletic enough for her, blah blah blah." the reality of it was she should be greatful that a guy like me would even TALK to her to begin with. she's s 34 yr old hag, 3 kids all by different men, been divorced twice, still hangs out at the rundown redneck bars, skin like leather due to smoking like a chimney all those years, saggy tits, not really the epitimy of being in shape herself but yet thought she deserved a guy who was. btw i am 5'9 180 and have a 34 inch waist(not exactly a fat cow).

3. the town *****, whos a 7 on her best day, wouldnt fVck me but a hot 9 bible beater did.

4. got the "im too young" speach from a 35 year old but a month later shes dating a 25 year old(i'm 30).

5. been turned down by plenty of women only to see them dating a guy who was WAY beneath me in looks status, social status, and made far less money then i do.

 

[BlackMack177]

I think this relates somewhat


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u0-o0fNORg

lol

 

[nismo-4]

dude, i feel your pain and frustration when it comes to women these days. i have very little respect for 90% of the women i meet or have met lately.

10% of the guys are doing 90% of the f**king. If you aren't in that 10%, you're in trouble. You'll have to take what you can get and rely on luck.

in just this year(2011) i'll give you a rundown of my encounters to strenghten your argument about women.

I love when people do this.

1. i had this one girl cancel on me TWICE, so i chalked it up to her being a big time flake, i deleted her number, said the hell with her, and went on my way. she texts me and wonders why i haven't talked to her in awhile...i dont respond. she texts me again asking me if "we're cool"...again i dont respond. what does she do? she starts spreading rumors about me to people that i'm a player, all i wanted was some @$$, i was a jerk, etc.....she did forget to mention that she cancelled on me twice however. funny how that slipped her mind huh?

She's acting like she's upset because you didn't want to take the consolation prize of the friendzone. In reality, she's got so many men after her, she's long forgot about you.

2. i have this snaggled tooth trailer park queen tell me "i'm not her type, i wasn't athletic enough for her, blah blah blah." the reality of it was she should be greatful that a guy like me would even TALK to her to begin with. she's s 34 yr old hag, 3 kids all by different men, been divorced twice, still hangs out at the rundown redneck bars, skin like leather due to smoking like a chimney all those years, saggy tits, not really the epitimy of being in shape herself but yet thought she deserved a guy who was. btw i am 5'9 180 and have a 34 inch waist(not exactly a fat cow).

Fatties and uglies have so many men chasing them these days it's unreal! So many men have lowered their standards, thus making the ego boosting cases like this one more prominent.

3. the town *****, whos a 7 on her best day, wouldnt fVck me but a hot 9 bible beater did.

Luck of the draw.

4. got the "im too young" speach from a 35 year old but a month later shes dating a 25 year old(i'm 30).

You weren't attractive enough for her, so she decided to diktease you and lead you on. Women always decide how far you will get with them.

5. been turned down by plenty of women only to see them dating a guy who was WAY beneath me in looks status, social status, and made far less money then i do.

See above.

Read betwe- never mind. If you're in Spartanburg or Florence, SC, you're better off going to Charleston or Hilton Head. It's said there are more attractive women in the south of SC.

The odds are always rigged in favor of the women. Men chase, women choose. Unless you're rich, famous, powerful, super handsome, or a combination of these, you've got an uphill battle. Women can easily order sex. Men cannot unless they're famous celebs. Even Hugh Hefner can order sex quick, but not as quick as the bunnies! Older women think they're entitled to a sexy, famous person now!

When I see couples, the man is usually the happier person, because he knows how tough it is to get a girl, and it gets harder by the day thanks to all this "new" PUA sh*t.