Direct Game Vs Indirect Game

[DonJoseCantosie]

hahaha! That is funny as sh1t, yea i remember this video...the big eyes number guy. The guy who plays Darrel is a woman lol.

 

[Drewskie]

When you talk about direct game, what do you mean? I have heard about this Mode 1 character who practices direct game, but his approach seems really crazy, like he flat tells girls right off the bat he wants to fVck them. Is there a bit more subtle way to go about it??

 

[Darth]

For me, whenever I've been successful, my mouth is indirect but my eyes are direct. So much so that many times just saying "Hi," to a cashier with full eye contact will make them look down and blush. It's weird.

BUt yeah I definitely think it depends on the way you talk, your physical body type, etc.

 

[daygameguy]

This is pure direct

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_du78uQ07c

 

[Tha Realnezz]

Indirect always cuz it keeps your mystery and avoids you getting slapped in the mouth.

Direct if she's just being direct her damnself or she looks so good you just cant help it.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

DayGameGuy, i agree. London Soul is def direct. Im glad he no longer does routines. Badboy and Shark are kings of direct... bar none though.

Badboy's Opening + mindset + leading frame + being sexual + RSD Ozzie's Closing Teachings = Monster.

Tha Realnezz, thats too overrated...being a mystery. Sure its good to be a mystery at times(The woman doesn't know everything about u) but thats where it ends imo....anything else is like, "Aright...she doesn't know much about u, she's gonna have to eventually"

 

[Tha Realnezz]

Not with me..I dont tell em ****,they love it.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

U've already said alot about u, by just being dominant, going for what u want, taking the lead and ****ing their brains out ;-)

 

[Kupid Diggs]

Direct Game is the only way I go now. Specifically Mode One. I'm a guy who hates "small talk" and "chit chat", and mode one eliminates both. Yea initially I receive resistance, but they usually break-down and show their true colors. I've had females initially curse me out and then 5 minutes later they're typing out their name and number in my phone. So I can meet up with them for sex in the future. In order for anyone to pull off mode one you have to be bold, confident, and highly self-assured. Be ready to be criticized too...

 

[Snow Plowman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_du78uQ07c

Cool video...I've read the Project Rockstar thread about those guys and it reminded me of when I used to do daygame and open chicks direct. I realize he is 100% right about being PASSIONATE when approaching direct. (I once got blownout about 15 times due to no passion just going through the motions)

Direct was cool at the time for me because that's all I knew...But I later found out there were better ways to go about things.

 

[j0n024]

How can you say that Snow!!!!

Direct is the funnest way to game chicks and if your not having fun gaming on girls or at least trying...what's the point??

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

J0n024 is right. Direct is fun man, especially when their intense sexual tension and a good amount of flirting or hell...another case is when u go up to a girl and she tries to act all disinterested and stuff, but know its a front

 

[Snow Plowman]

How can you say that Snow!!!!

Direct is the funnest way to game chicks and if your not having fun gaming on girls or at least trying...what's the point??

As I developed more and more Direct started to become incongruent to "Who I am" which is why I no longer go direct anymore. I'm just a retard guy who is obviously high value just naturally screening chicks on so many different levels.

This is FUN because all I have to really focus on is FUN and there is no pressure on me. Now in the daytime I can sit in an "ALL GIRLS" Clothing store for hours and not feel out of place at all. (The makeup shop is still my favorite)

Direct was cool back then because when I'd approach, I had my reality and frame control down so much that these chicks would go SUPER SUBMISSIVE. Silence would amp up the sexual tension and chicks would be impressed with my confidence...BUT as I progressed in my development I realized I was limiting myself because I was giving all that and I didn't even know if I actually liked her beyond her looks.

J0n024 is right. Direct is fun man, especially when their intense sexual tension and a good amount of flirting or hell...another case is when u go up to a girl and she tries to act all disinterested and stuff, but know its a front

YEP!! I know exactly what your talking about...hahahaha...

I create sexual tension in another way because I'm more subtle now, and generally chicks now jump all over me back I'm a HUGE SOURCE OF VALIDATION for them because of "How I Am". There is something that happens in my interactions here and there...

Were sort of just looking flirtatiously and touching each other...Just talking jibberish, were really all over each other and in this TRANCE. (I remember one chick BIT my lip 1min in)

What I used to get from the DIRECT was that RUSH of going in and just taking what I wanted...But eventually I no longer could go for chicks just because of there looks or else I'd have a HUGE QUALITY problem. What ended up happening was I set a boundary of ONLY sexually escalating with FULL BLOWN HOTTIES and I bumped my values in a women SO HIGH that I'm now unattainable to most chicks.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Ah I see Snowplowman Yea man...do the style that ur happy and fits urself with. U tried direct, found it didn't match ur personality type...and went on to something that did. glad u found it

 

[Cry For Love]

An important question is, how do you approach sets with direct game? How do you earn the trust of the targets friends so that they will allow you to take her. From what ive read from Gunwitch technique its a NO GO with direct game.

Obviously thats a major hurdle, limiting its uses to a few daytime areas where girls arent in groups.

 

[Daddy The Pimp]

In my opinion , indirect game is for newbies. Direct game is for more advanced guys. I've tried them both. With indirect , i had a lot of LMR. With direct , i never get it.

Its true , with direct game you get rejected more . But its more fun , you get the girls in easy and quicker way. And , she wont be surprised when you tell her how much you want to fvck her.

 

[j0n024]

As I developed more and more Direct started to become incongruent to "Who I am" which is why I no longer go direct anymore. I'm just a retard guy who is obviously high value just naturally screening chicks on so many different levels.

This is FUN because all I have to really focus on is FUN and there is no pressure on me. Now in the daytime I can sit in an "ALL GIRLS" Clothing store for hours and not feel out of place at all. (The makeup shop is still my favorite)

Direct was cool back then because when I'd approach, I had my reality and frame control down so much that these chicks would go SUPER SUBMISSIVE. Silence would amp up the sexual tension and chicks would be impressed with my confidence...BUT as I progressed in my development I realized I was limiting myself because I was giving all that and I didn't even know if I actually liked her beyond her looks.



YEP!! I know exactly what your talking about...hahahaha...

I create sexual tension in another way because I'm more subtle now, and generally chicks now jump all over me back I'm a HUGE SOURCE OF VALIDATION for them because of "How I Am". There is something that happens in my interactions here and there...

Were sort of just looking flirtatiously and touching each other...Just talking jibberish, were really all over each other and in this TRANCE. (I remember one chick BIT my lip 1min in)

What I used to get from the DIRECT was that RUSH of going in and just taking what I wanted...But eventually I no longer could go for chicks just because of there looks or else I'd have a HUGE QUALITY problem. What ended up happening was I set a boundary of ONLY sexually escalating with FULL BLOWN HOTTIES and I bumped my values in a women SO HIGH that I'm now unattainable to most chicks.

Wait I dont understand you make it seem that if you go with direct you wont be able to find out if a chick is worth seeing OUTSIDE of the bed and the interaction is so fast paced that you dont even see what the girl is really like.
I dont know some of what you say seems more of "Your," Problem and not a problem of direct game, I mean take for instance when you said if you kept going with direct you would have a "HUGE QUALITY," Problem .....WHY? I dont understand why you wouldnt take it easy and only go direct with the girls you feel are up to the challenge .

But whatever .

 

[Snow Plowman]

Wait I dont understand you make it seem that if you go with direct you wont be able to find out if a chick is worth seeing OUTSIDE of the bed and the interaction is so fast paced that you dont even see what the girl is really like.
I dont know some of what you say seems more of "Your," Problem and not a problem of direct game, I mean take for instance when you said if you kept going with direct you would have a "HUGE QUALITY," Problem .....WHY? I dont understand why you wouldnt take it easy and only go direct with the girls you feel are up to the challenge .

But whatever .

Yep I was talking about direct based on my problems with it...It's like I'd go in saying I like cherries and end up picking up cereal. The chick could've sworn I just said I liked cherries.

When I go direct it tends to have an incongruence because my overall interacting with women is indirect, like I don't verbalize anything about wanting to fuk them because it's so obvious. So when I went in verbally direct and all of a sudden I wasn't direct no more it drew an incongruence...

NOW I'm more of an indirect-direct...cause it seems super fun and playful but there is a HUGE SEXUAL UNDERTONE being sub-communciated. There are times I'll tell a chick "Hey I like your style" and then I'd just say "Come join us" because I'm really screening pretty hard.

 

[izza]

Ok so the argument goes back and forth, which game is better direct or indirect? they both have their pro's and con's lets break it down

Indirect Game
1. Neutralizes your Target--Meaning, that you are not coming off to strong, usually this helps when you trying to calibrate your Target's frame/body language/vibe

2. Come of as less threating--Just watch any Meehow Video's and how he goes into a set with his "indirect" openers, he is able to hold the set and not get blown out because he is not a "threat"

3. It builds Rapport--usually indirect you can go in building rapport, and maybe find a connection

Direct game

1. Your being upfront--with direct game, there is no game really, you are letting her know what it is, there is no "read between the lines" ****

2. Your confident--if you do the approach right, you will be looked at as confident, and what women doesn't get turned on by that?

3. You can be more sexual-compared to indirect, it will be more congruent


Now both games have they cons

for instance if you go indirect, typically women can tell, and she might think you are not confident and you get blown out (this is the problem with all these pua guys running around now, women can tell) if you go direct she might think you are coming on too strong

so what game is the best?

IMO, its a mixture of both

thoughts?

I recommend being direct because it is more mature. So many guys out there can't be direct in a likeable way because it's kind of hard. If you can do this it's faster, more efficient, more impressive, and more mature. Indirect game is really a junior high way to think about sexuality. Guys I know who are sexually mature like sex, talk about sex, they say when they're attracted to a girl, and girls know they can trust that guy because he is honest and mature. That jumps a lot of hurdles I know girls have: like a fear that the guy is dishonest, that the guy will be clingy. If the guy is mature and honest, people just feel more comfortable around him.

I always recommend acting like an adult. It takes a mature adult to talk seriously about sex. I can't recommend it highly enough.

Izza