Daygame - Funny Approach Failed

[Gathenwale]

I was searching a presentation thread but i didnt find any, IM NEW HERE so hello everybody!

I want to share an approach that i did recently days ago, looking for some advice or possible explanation of what happened lol.
I have 30 years old, tall, above good looking and the best quality that i have is that im a positive person, im always SMILING, doing jokes, so im usually in a good vibe.
When im out, i get a lot of eye contact or other IOIs from woman (not from all of course but i can notice it).
And as additional info, at this time of year, it gets dark very quickly so... not sure if i should do it at night if i get strong IOI (talking about street).

HB:8 (brunette, blue eyes)
Was going to my home (at night) when i saw a girl in front of me walking in the opposite direction, we see each other from far distance, as we were getting closer, she held my eye for 2s then she looked away and passed me, i turned back and followed her for almost 20 seconds until i reached her.
I dont like the typical opener "Hi i saw you and you are cute etc etc" i dont want to say "cute" to a girl that i dont know.
I opened her from the side, and being a funny guy, i prefer to open with a funny opener so:

(This conv i didnt do in english, so its translated)
Me : Excuse me (while smilling a bit)
She: (She stopped and looked at me with normal expression)
Me : Lets see if you can help me...
Me : I think that im lost
She: Tell me where you want to go
Me : Do you know good this place?
She: Yes
Me : Okay, do you know.... how i can get/reach... (here i do a stop of 1 sec) ...to your heart? (while smilling)
She: (Then she turned his face and walked away without saying a thing)
(I was excepting a smile from her or a comment, so that is when i would say my name and tell her that was a joke to break the ice, blabla)

I prefer to do the safests approachs at first, doing it to 5 different girls to see their reactions and while also getting some experience, then overtime i will approach a girl if it just gives simple eye contact.
It was my first approach ever in the streets and even with strong IOI it failed, so what else can i do hahah.

This girl i think its the SAME girl that i saw 1 week ago in the same place and held my eye contact for like 4 secs and i smiled at her and then i looked away.
Whats wrong with this girl? Or its me? Risky to approach at night? Should i change my opener? Are these the results that i should expect approaching in the street, even with strong IOI? OR just dont overthink and NEXT, her loss not mine.
Well, the positive side is that atleast i tried so its more experience for me (Level1 in street reached hehehe).

And i remember my previous approach before this, how different it was comparing both girls:
Weeks ago in a mall, a blonde blue eyes seller girl in middle of the shops, she held my gaze 2 times but i was with my systerinlaw, so i didnt approach at all, hours later i returned alone to the mall and oppened her and she was even carrying the conversation lol. 70% she 30% me, she was very young (20 years) told me that had a boyfriend but she was not sure about what do to haha, i could have taken her number if i have wanted, i just said that i respect it and left, that girl was very happy and i made her day.
NOW COMPARE WITH THE OTHER GIRL.

I hope you liked it, thanks for read! (will be updating the thread with more stories)

 

[user252009]

jesus christ cringe

 

[Atom Smasher]

You’re new, you have a lot to learn. Let me say that the pickup lines probably aren’t going to work for you that much.

Secondly, you should NEVER look away when you make eye contact with a woman. They see that as a true sign of weakness. The woman must look away.
Welcome to the forum. There’s a lot of gold to be mined here, if you’re willing to change and improve.

 

[Divorced w 3]

You legit stalked her

 

[Dr.Suave]

HB:8 (brunette, blue eyes)
Was going to my home (at night) when i saw a girl in front of me walking in the opposite direction, we see each other from far distance, as we were getting closer, she held my eye for 2s then she looked away and passed me, i turned back and followed her for almost 20 seconds until i reached her.

No bro. Dont follow girls.

 

[oldmanofthesea]

Never follow a girl at night like that. Super creepy. It's ok to approach at night but never follow. The time to do it is immediately, before you cross paths. As she approaches you, hold out your hand to get her attention before she passes, then stop and say your bit. When doing cold approaches, ESPECIALLY at night and in situations where it is truly cold, in that you have no common reason for being there or anything to talk about, it is best to be direct with women. They want to know why you have stopped them - are you going to ask them for money? Offer to sell them drugs? Are you a crazy axe murderer? Serial rapist? Get to the point immediately with women on the street by letting them know two things: 1 - that you understand it's not quite typical to approach random strangers on the street, and 2 - exactly why you stopped them.

"Hey, I know it's unusual to stop a random stranger on the street like this, but you caught my eye and I knew I'd be kicking myself later if I didn't at least take the opportunity to meet you." This works so well that well over 50% of women (for me it is more like 95%) will visibly exhale in relief, smile broadly, and take a moment to talk to you in a friendly way, even if they aren't interested in you romantically (because they have a boyfriend or because you just aren't their type). Also notice that you have only indirectly complimented them - you haven't said they are good looking but did say they caught your eye. But it's ok to be more direct - it's ok to say, "I noticed you walking by and you looked so stunning in that dress that I had to take a moment to come and meet you." Over 90% of women have responded positively to me in this situation. They don't like not knowing why you are there talking to them and they are anxious for you to get to the point.

Avoid cheesy one-liners and phrases like "show me the way to your heart".

If you can't catch a girl before she walks by, just let it go. There are plenty of women out there.

In general, you need to act more decisively.... like this for example:

she held my gaze 2 times but i was with my systerinlaw, so i didnt approach at all, hours later i returned alone to the mall and oppened her

It's weird that you went back. Some girls won't mind but it gives a desperate stalker vibe. She's going to wonder why you went all the way back there HOURS later to talk to her. Do it right in the moment, don't wait, and if you can't, forget about it and move on to the next girl.

 

[pipeman84]

Never follow a girl at night like that. Super creepy. It's ok to approach at night but never follow. The time to do it is immediately, before you cross paths. As she approaches you, hold out your hand to get her attention before she passes, then stop and say your bit. When doing cold approaches, ESPECIALLY at night and in situations where it is truly cold, in that you have no common reason for being there or anything to talk about, it is best to be direct with women. They want to know why you have stopped them - are you going to ask them for money? Offer to sell them drugs? Are you a crazy axe murderer? Serial rapist? Get to the point immediately with women on the street by letting them know two things: 1 - that you understand it's not quite typical to approach random strangers on the street, and 2 - exactly why you stopped them.

"Hey, I know it's unusual to stop a random stranger on the street like this, but you caught my eye and I knew I'd be kicking myself later if I didn't at least take the opportunity to meet you." This works so well that well over 50% of women (for me it is more like 95%) will visibly exhale in relief, smile broadly, and take a moment to talk to you in a friendly way, even if they aren't interested in you romantically (because they have a boyfriend or because you just aren't their type). Also notice that you have only indirectly complimented them - you haven't said they are good looking but did say they caught your eye. But it's ok to be more direct - it's ok to say, "I noticed you walking by and you looked so stunning in that dress that I had to take a moment to come and meet you." Over 90% of women have responded positively to me in this situation. They don't like not knowing why you are there talking to them and they are anxious for you to get to the point.

I think it's scary to women to be cold approached at night like this. Full stop. Everything you said sounds nice and all, but think about it, isn't that what a serial rapist or a crazy murderer would say? Do you think he'd be honest and straightforward: Hey, I'm a crazy person and you're my next victim? I don't think so.

 

[oldmanofthesea]

I've slept with too many hot women 20+ years younger than me to stop doing it. It works and is a great way to meet high volumes of quality women who aren't on dating apps. There is honestly no other way of matching the volume/quality combination of cold approach.

We aren't talking about a dark alley or a deserted park here. Talking about a sidewalk with handfuls of people on it, a boardwalk, a lit-up park with tons of people, etc.

 

[Gathenwale]

Omg... some of the answers are as if i had killed someone lol (or raped a woman), being new here and expecting to be welcomed, could hurt me if i was other type of person... i accept all comments without problem!
Really, looking it at the positive side this only helps me if i was doing the things bad, its good to know it on time and change the path to the correct one, i dont want to be in the stalker/creep dark side of the force even if i did only 1 approach in the street.

So thanks ALL OF YOU for the responses

I want to clarify one thing:
I have gotten many many chances to talk with girls over the years in the streets and i didnt care. 1 more or 1 less what the hell, now is when i wanted to try new things.
So im not a stalker, this girl when i turned back (after she held my eye for some seconds) she was a bit far away from me so i went fast to reach her, i was not "following" her (because she gave me the signal) but she could interpret that for sure. If i wanted to talk with her i needed to reach her or talk before she passed me, those were my options to talk with this girl (THAT DAY).

Now answering in general:
I know that many of you approach girls regardless of IOIs, i respect that, but for me as i said in my first message, is too soon and i prefer to do it step by step. 1º multiple/strong IOIs, 2º simple EC, 3º no IOI.
Having said that, in my case we are talking about girls that give OBVIOUS signs at you (3 glances or holding eye for +3s or more) i thought that it was acceptable approaching a girl after she showed signs at you, passed you, then you act on it by you turning around and reaching her, and just chat a bit with her. Is this bad even with the sunlight?

 

[Gathenwale]

Never follow a girl at night like that. Super creepy. It's ok to approach at night but never follow. The time to do it is immediately, before you cross paths. As she approaches you, hold out your hand to get her attention before she passes, then stop and say your bit. When doing cold approaches, ESPECIALLY at night and in situations where it is truly cold, in that you have no common reason for being there or anything to talk about, it is best to be direct with women. They want to know why you have stopped them - are you going to ask them for money? Offer to sell them drugs? Are you a crazy axe murderer? Serial rapist? Get to the point immediately with women on the street by letting them know two things: 1 - that you understand it's not quite typical to approach random strangers on the street, and 2 - exactly why you stopped them.

"Hey, I know it's unusual to stop a random stranger on the street like this, but you caught my eye and I knew I'd be kicking myself later if I didn't at least take the opportunity to meet you." This works so well that well over 50% of women (for me it is more like 95%) will visibly exhale in relief, smile broadly, and take a moment to talk to you in a friendly way, even if they aren't interested in you romantically (because they have a boyfriend or because you just aren't their type). Also notice that you have only indirectly complimented them - you haven't said they are good looking but did say they caught your eye. But it's ok to be more direct - it's ok to say, "I noticed you walking by and you looked so stunning in that dress that I had to take a moment to come and meet you." Over 90% of women have responded positively to me in this situation. They don't like not knowing why you are there talking to them and they are anxious for you to get to the point.

Avoid cheesy one-liners and phrases like "show me the way to your heart".

If you can't catch a girl before she walks by, just let it go. There are plenty of women out there.

Thanks for the detailed response, appreciate it and opened my eyes to change my game.

I must say that i dont have approach anxiety but i have a really GREAT problem with the people (passing) around the girl that i want to approach, what they think of me or hearing some of the conversation, can with me, and you saying that i should approach the girl before she passes me, could resolve that problem in some form.

So every girl that i would like to approach, should i do it before she passes me? Even with the sunlight? Some girls give a quick glance before passing you, maybe for those girls you cannot stop them in time, there are also the girls in the crosswalks.
About my opener, well if the girl is showing signals i thought that my opener would work, i would like to open them with a little joke knowing that the girl is already interested. Can break the toughest barriers making her laugh from the beginning (or can have a negative effect so they call the police hehehe).

Your openers are gold. Had an another opener but you will know it already. First asking for directions and then "Hey to be honest, this was just an excuse to talk to you because you catch my eye and didnt know what to say, blabla".

In general, you need to act more decisively.... like this for example:

It's weird that you went back. Some girls won't mind but it gives a desperate stalker vibe. She's going to wonder why you went all the way back there HOURS later to talk to her. Do it right in the moment, don't wait, and if you can't, forget about it and move on to the next girl.

I explained it briefly but it was with other context. I can tell it to you. My sisterinlaw was on vacations visiting my brother (so she moved to our city), she wanted to do some special dinner that day.
That day in the morning i went to the mall with her to buy some ingredients, that blonde girl offered to my sisterinlaw one product that she was selling, we left. 5-6 hours later (in the afternoon) a ingredient was missing that we thought that we had in the house so i dont let her to go to the mall again because she was already on vacations and she will be making the dinner for us.
So i returned to the mall, the thing is that i didnt expect that the girl would be still there so when i had my ingredient already on my hand and saw her i said to myself "WHY NOT? What i have to lose when i held eye contact with her that morning?" So i acted like looking for products and when we did eye contact i told to her, are you still here? Omg how many hours are you standing without rest, we forgot to buy 1 ingredient, etc. Add to that what i have said on my 1º message.

And even considering the other scenario, i would prefer to have the balls and just do it to see what could happen than regreting of not trying at all, in this thread i can see a lot of the answers with the stalker/creep word and some guys have fear or trying things/giving it a chance, even one guy is questioning your method that works well for you so...

 

[Gathenwale]

You’re new, you have a lot to learn. Let me say that the pickup lines probably aren’t going to work for you that much.

Secondly, you should NEVER look away when you make eye contact with a woman. They see that as a true sign of weakness. The woman must look away.
Welcome to the forum. There’s a lot of gold to be mined here, if you’re willing to change and improve.

Thanks for the response

With the no breaking of eye contact with them, some girls will think that you are a serial psycho killer that is mentioned in this thread hehehe. Joking (but true depending with the looks of some guys and how they look at them lol).

What do you think or how should i approach a girl that gives you strong signs? Do you think that the approach always should be done as what oldmanofthesea have said? ALWAYS before she passes you, never turning back and reaching her? Would like to see another perspective from other person here. Even considering the answer of oldmanofthesea very good and usefull for me.
My opener was a method to open a interested girl in a funny/friendly way. Maybe i use it with a different girl and works like charm, you never know

 

[Gathenwale]

You legit stalked her

So .......an achievement unlocked? omg.

jesus christ cringe

Jesus christ GUIDE ME please.

No bro. Dont follow girls.

WHAT IF IM HER dog? I need to follow my master... but now the dog is free... he is changing i think in a record time thanks to the people of this forum.

 

[Divorced w 3]

So .......an achievement unlocked? omg.



Jesus christ GUIDE ME please.



WHAT IF IM HER dog? I need to follow my master... but now the dog is free... he is changing i think in a record time thanks to the people of this forum.

See you on dateline

 

[Gathenwale]

I have my game changed (or atleast im trying it), so when making new approaches this time i will be doing them before the girls pass me (never turning around for reach them).
I have a very cool idea for a funny opener, cant wait to see the reaction of the girls lol!

message #9 & #10

message #9 & #11

Btw i would like to see a reply to my last quoted messages before doing new approaches, i like to read the opinion of the wisests (if its not bother) but every member here are free to add a comment if they think that can add something useful to the thread, DONT BE SHY

 

[oldmanofthesea]

I must say that i dont have approach anxiety but i have a really GREAT problem with the people (passing) around the girl that i want to approach, what they think of me or hearing some of the conversation,

I cured myself of this by deliberately forcing myself to go to malls and approach women who were near groups of bored onlookers. Example, a woman in a small cosmetics store with 3 hot girls behind the counter with no customers to serve and nothing to do other than watch me come in and cold approach the single customer in the store. Also doing really off the wall stuff like walking up to a girl who was part of a group of 5 other girls, and without saying anything, getting down on one knee, looking her dead in the eye seriously and asking her if she will marry me. The goal here is not to actually get a phone number or have a girl take you seriously - you do this as a social freedom exercise to see that your expectation of how others will react and how it will make you feel are not consistent with reality. It will help you see that you shouldn't be anxious or afraid in these situations and most people really just don't care. They might be mildly interested in watching you because they are bored and you are breaking the matrix with what you are doing but as soon as it's over they are moving on with their lives and not following you around throwing rocks at you or something.

So every girl that i would like to approach, should i do it before she passes me? Even with the sunlight? Some girls give a quick glance before passing you, maybe for those girls you cannot stop them in time, there are also the girls in the crosswalks.

Yes, approach head-on, never follow, and if she ignores you then just let her go. Yes you can follow, yes you can turn around, yes you can approach her later. I've done all these things myself at various points in my cold approach practice and application. Once in a Target a girl stared hard at me as she walked past me. So hard that she didn't even realize I was staring right back at her and when it finally clicked, she looked down submissively. My mind wasn't in the right place in that exact moment to stop her so I let it go and continued on with my shopping. But when I was in the self-checkout, I saw she was right next to me so I waited for her, stopped her as she crossed my path again and said, "Hey, I know it's a bit unusual to stop a stranger like this, but you caught my eye in there earlier and I just wanted to meet you." Ended up getting her number and going on a date with her. But this was a bit of a unique example as you can see. I also never really had much luck with any of the girls who passed me and I ran back up to, to catch up with. It can work - some may say it gives off a desperate vibe and there is truth to that, but at the same time, women are flattered by it, but as the old saying goes around here, "You are only creepy if she isn't attracted to you." So my advice is, if you are going to pull an extra-bold move like running after a girl and getting in front of her and stopping her, you should be quite confident she is attracted to you, and no offense but I would question your ability to judge that based on the outcome of your previous approaches, so maybe skip the chasing for now. There are many women out there.

About my opener, well if the girl is showing signals i thought that my opener would work, i would like to open them with a little joke knowing that the girl is already interested. Can break the toughest barriers making her laugh from the beginning (or can have a negative effect so they call the police hehehe).

No amount of signals from a woman will excuse a really bad joke. Unless you are sure your jokes land well, and no offense but based on your last example I would say they don't, I would skip the jokes.

First asking for directions and then "Hey to be honest, this was just an excuse to talk to you because you catch my eye and didnt know what to say, blabla".

I strongly suggest avoiding false pretenses that you must then admit were lies when approaching women. False pretenses that you make to invite a girl over to your house after a date are fine, because you won't tell her at your house, "Hey, now that you're here, I didn't really invite you over to meet my dog, I invited you over to fvck you." No, you invite her over to your house to meet your dog and after she meets your dog you just keep moving forward and seeing how she responds, without directly talking about it. This is very different from saying, "Hi I stopped you because I want directions" and then immediately saying, "Hey I know I told you I stopped you for directions but I was lying to you - I think you're hot and wanted to go on a date with you." Women don't like this obvious and clear misrepresentation and if this is literally the first thing you do when you meet them, they are going to think lying is a central part of your character. You can be indirect with a woman, or direct with a woman. Both work, but when you are indirect, you need to make it seem like your attraction to her was accidental and just happened as you had your conversation with her. As in, you stopped her to ask for directions but something she said or the way she said it or the sound of her voice flipped a switch in your head and suddenly you became intrigued by her so now you are going to make conversation to learn more about her - you didn't stop her under false pretenses - you needed those directions but suddenly became aware of her uniqueness and became intrigued. She is very likely going to see through this, but it still comes off more socially calibrated than just flat out telling her you are a big liar. This is also why I only use direct-approaches when in a situation where there is nothing to indirectly approach her about that makes sense. For example, if randomly stopping a girl walking down the street, I will go direct. If next to a girl at the store picking out avocados, I will go indirect because we are both doing/experiencing the same thing and have instant common ground with which I can start a conversation over.

 

[Dr.Suave]

If next to a girl at the store picking out avocados, I will go indirect because we are both doing/experiencing the same thing and have instant common ground with which I can start a conversation over.

I just love it when I go to the supermarket and there is a hot girl picking fruit/vegetables. I will ask her for help because Im not good at picking and take it from there depending on how she responds.

 

[Modern Man Advice]

That's not new. This was one of those "prank" videos years ago from AngryPicnic and it only worked for him because:

1) It is YouTube, most likely most of them staged
2) He is really charismatic and he pulled off a "joking" vibe and followed with a solid comment.
3) He didn't follow the girls, he simply approached them head-on.
4) Most were college girls.

As others have stated, big NO-NO. Do not follow girls. It is uncalled for and creepy. That just adds justification for girls not liking getting approached at all, because of interactions like this.

I wouldn't say it is a bad line, but it can be cringy. For you to pull it off, you would have to have a smile and a face of the Gods, be charismatic, personable, and quite funny.

Bottom line, don't.

 

[Don of the north]

No bro. Dont follow girls.

You guys are being too hard on this guy. He did not "legit stalk" her. That would be following her to her house and hanging out in the bushes. Yes of course, I'd advise approaching immediately, but just stop with the over the top stuff.

He said he followed her for 20 seconds before making an approach. That's not even one city block. That's like 20 footsteps at slow walking speed. He didn't follow her for blocks and blocks. Unless I misread something. It was hard to understand his writing.

He's just trying to catch up with her without running and/or he's waiting for the right time. He's also likely suffering from "spotlight effect" and trying to get his nerve up at the same time. He doesn't want others to hear his rejection, which is the spotlight effect, so he's waiting for his opening.

Obviously, it's best to approach immediately upon seeing her, but I've seen plenty of dating infields from many youtubers where they are waiting for a light to change ect before making the approach or they followed a girl from the street into a store because they couldn't reach her in time on the street.

Also, if you see a girl across the street, you have to "follow" her and walk across the street to make the approach. Are you saying you should only approach women who are walking towards you? What if a woman walks from the main corridor of a mall into a store? Can you not "follow" her into the store to say hello? This is getting a little ridiculous.

That being said, try to do your street approaches during the day if you can and as quick as possible make the approach.

I think it's scary to women to be cold approached at night like this. Full stop. Everything you said sounds nice and all, but think about it, isn't that what a serial rapist or a crazy murderer would say? Do you think he'd be honest and straightforward: Hey, I'm a crazy person and you're my next victim? I don't think so.

And then all this over-the-top stuff about axe murderers. There on average 2 active serial killers in the United States at any given time. Let that sink in. 350 million people in the U.S. She's more likely to get hit by a car crossing the street.

When a woman is not interested in you in online dating, she'll say "you might be an axe murderer" when you ask to go get coffee after sending messages for a week, but she'll go straight to chads house after a 30 second conversation. LOL

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

OP: May I ask your native language ?

 

[Gathenwale]

@oldmanofthesea your answers are pure gold, very very good, elaborated and with examples!

I cured myself of this by deliberately forcing myself to go to malls and approach women who were near groups of bored onlookers. Example, a woman in a small cosmetics store with 3 hot girls behind the counter with no customers to serve and nothing to do other than watch me come in and cold approach the single customer in the store. Also doing really off the wall stuff like walking up to a girl who was part of a group of 5 other girls, and without saying anything, getting down on one knee, looking her dead in the eye seriously and asking her if she will marry me. The goal here is not to actually get a phone number or have a girl take you seriously - you do this as a social freedom exercise to see that your expectation of how others will react and how it will make you feel are not consistent with reality. It will help you see that you shouldn't be anxious or afraid in these situations and most people really just don't care. They might be mildly interested in watching you because they are bored and you are breaking the matrix with what you are doing but as soon as it's over they are moving on with their lives and not following you around throwing rocks at you or something.

Wow, what a big balls you have. I would pay to see those 2 examples in live. Surely after performing 1 of those examples you would be in the GOD mode, without approach anxiety and feeling like a famous star doing whatever you want.

In my case (with the presence of ppl around), I think that is affecting me because I still dont have many approaches done. Anyway those people will forget your face in 1 month if not less.

Yes, approach head-on, never follow, and if she ignores you then just let her go. Yes you can follow, yes you can turn around, yes you can approach her later. I've done all these things myself at various points in my cold approach practice and application. Once in a Target a girl stared hard at me as she walked past me. So hard that she didn't even realize I was staring right back at her and when it finally clicked, she looked down submissively. My mind wasn't in the right place in that exact moment to stop her so I let it go and continued on with my shopping. But when I was in the self-checkout, I saw she was right next to me so I waited for her, stopped her as she crossed my path again and said, "Hey, I know it's a bit unusual to stop a stranger like this, but you caught my eye in there earlier and I just wanted to meet you." Ended up getting her number and going on a date with her. But this was a bit of a unique example as you can see. I also never really had much luck with any of the girls who passed me and I ran back up to, to catch up with. It can work - some may say it gives off a desperate vibe and there is truth to that, but at the same time, women are flattered by it, but as the old saying goes around here, "You are only creepy if she isn't attracted to you." So my advice is, if you are going to pull an extra-bold move like running after a girl and getting in front of her and stopping her, you should be quite confident she is attracted to you

Yea, I think approaching the girl before crossing paths it should gives more chances of a positive response than opening her after following her. Also you are acting immediately/quickly than compared to if you let her pass, you start with the thoughts "Oh she held my eye, what I do now?" "There are ppl around her and I need to open her from behind/side in the middle of the street and maybe the girl doesnt react well" (plus the people hearing and looking at you). With this way you avoid all the problems, that is what I think.

One of the reasons of why I dont want to do cold approaches at this moment (as I said before), its because I first need to see their reactions while also getting some experience (with girls interested 100% in you). But other of the reasons is, I live in a small city and if I approach every woman I see, I could get in a state that overtime I would go paranoid thinking that I have already approached that girl or it looks similary to one. We just need to look at my failed approach. Take this girl as an example. In 1 week I saw her two times, when I approached her I didnt know that it was the same girl. Im sure that many of you have approached some girls 2 times or more haha, it would be funny to see your and her reactions xD.

and no offense but I would question your ability to judge that based on the outcome of your previous approaches, so maybe skip the chasing for now. There are many women out there.

No amount of signals from a woman will excuse a really bad joke. Unless you are sure your jokes land well, and no offense but based on your last example I would say they don't, I would skip the jokes.

What I can say about this girl is that one day she held my eye for 4seconds (I smiled at her) but shortly I looked away. And one week later, again the same girl held my eye 2seconds (without counting when she saw me from far distance), then she looked away. What failed there? It could be a lot of reasons, that was the main question of the thread.

Can be the night, her mood, she doesnt talk to strangers or she doesnt want to be opened from the side/behind... can be a girl who wants a bit attention, just for boosting her ego, she didnt get the joke or simply that I dont have enough experience, can also it be a combination of several. But Im really 200% sure of those signs. Sometimes there is no explanation of some things. You have tried and thats all and maybe you try again with the next 3 girls and it works with the 3. But if for example you have failed 5 in a row, obviously something is happening.

Sometimes a very bad joke its what works lol. But yes, we need to have in mind that those girls are complete strangers.

Thanks for the response