Dating Sites Question About Incentives

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Or you can cry about women being too picky, without getting out of your boxers and taking a shower.

Real men go commando.

Throughout history, average women have always accepted average men for who they are. Only in our modern times, have average women been conditioned to think average men "suck"

This is all for the better. You are forgetting the purpose of your existence, which is being a good little consumer so the greedy can make their billions and you can strut around with a status symbol to attract gold diggers. So you have to work harder and earn more money to please these dissatisfied women. You may not like the rift between the genders, but the entire purpose of the whole gender revolution is to disrupt society. These upheavals are necessary to fill the coffers of the rich.

 

[BeExcellent]

Appreciate the dissertation on hygiene @Slowhandluke as you enlighten me about the time of Shakespare's tragedy concerning the Montagues and the Capulettes. English literature lesson aside, we reside in the 21st century now gentlemen.

Of course average begets average in the dating realm. Even today you can readily observe happily married or partnered average men with average women. This is not a great revelation for as we know, water seeks its own level.

Therefore if you are average, why bother right? Ah. This begs the question why are you here at all? To improve with women and dating? To complain and commisurate? To lampoon others? You see if a man undertakes to improve himself insofar as he is able, and if he does this with a genuine desire for his own development, then he rises above the ranks of the average into the above average. In so doing he will also elevate his dating/mating opportunities. That is the natural progression of things.

Look. There are women who will give the time of day and desire each man on here in a sexual way. Look at who you ARE attracting. That is the best way to ascertain where you fall on the SMV continuum my friend.

If you don't want the women who ARE attracted? You think they are ugly or fat or weird? How are such men any different than the delusional women who think they deserve Chad?

There are many men here who have leveled up and have the dating/mating results to show for it, including the Dutchman who one could argue is average looking. So what? He has levelled up in other areas, stayed fit and trim, and his dating/mating results are exceptional as a result.

My dating/mating results are also exceptional (and my husband would tell you his are too).....

So I will continue to promote improvement of the individual man. We should all aspire toward the exceptional in our individual lives.

The world does not care about you or me or anyone other than the exceptional. The world cares sbout results. Aspire toward the exceptional. Either rise above mediocrity or accept it without complaint if you choose not to make an effort.

 

[Solomon]

Which dating sites have their incentives aligned with men's best interests? Whether that is to just get laid, find a significant other, or even get married. Which dating sites actually want men to succeed, not just get our money without us even meeting women from them?

The only dating apps that would have this incentive is an app that raises the barrier of entry for women(and men)like "The League". Let me explain any app that makes the barrier of entry low will have a lot of riff-raff not just on the women's side but also the men. This brings a lot of low-quality trash and this is why apps like Tinder which was exclusive only for colleges until it became public have slowly now turned into a cesspool we now know it to be

If the entry is a higher barrier the apps tend to be more quality i.e. The League (however if you don't meet that barrier your SOL)

 

[Slowhandluke]

Of course average begets average in the dating realm.

This is not true. To believe this is to be a fool. Take for example, the average college, female student. She's literally (and figurative) "swiping away" all her average male peers. She's dating only the top 5% to 1%. The average begets the Chad (at least for a little whiles until she gets dumped).

Its a numbers game. Yes, we are in the 21th century - feminism has taught women to be tremendously picky to the point of self harm to their own lives. Hopefully, this current generation of fathers and moms of daughters can correct this. And tell their daughters the truth: "she's not all that". Most likely, she's average. Get over herself.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/15c031h

 

[BeExcellent]

So I'm curious Luke. So if you are 49 years old who are you dating? The hot 20 year old college coed?

I'm curious how you are an expert on that segment of the dating pool. I myself am 55. I have children in that segment of the dating pool, all of them attractive, the older 2 are in LTRs with a partner within a year of their own age. My 22yo son is married to someone he dated 5 years prior to marriage; my 20yo older daughter has been in LTR for 4 years with her high school sweetheart. They might marry.

My 16 year old daughter is not "boy crazy" at all. She's sure at some point dating will interest her but she's "Meh" about dating for now.

None of my kids use swipe apps.

Are you dating the college coeds? If you are that is certainly exceptional. College coeds 99.8% select men in their same age group, not a man old enough to actually be her father. They choose young men to build a life & a family with.

Do you have daughters that age?

Are you frequenting strip clubs? Church youth grous? Dungeons & Dragons sessions?

Or are you regurgitating recycled rumors from the manosphere about what young women are doing these days? Do you have first hand knowledge? From where?

If you are saying college coeds are picking young handsome men (Chads?) who are their peers over a 50 year old man I'm here to tell you that behavior is utterly predictable & utterly normal.

Just trying to understand how you became an authority on the behavior, collectively, of today's women in their early 20s at university. Are you a college professor?

Seriously curious as I think it has some bearing on the content of the discussion.

 

[Slowhandluke]

So I'm curious Luke. So if you are 49 years old who are you dating? The hot 20 year old college coed?

I'm not sure why we have to go "personal". A fact is a fact, regardless if I am an incel or a chad. Two plus two will always be 4 even if I'm handsome or ugly. If I look outside, and I see an accident; that accident is occurring regardless if I'm dating a 20 year old college coed, or not

However, I guess it wouldn't hurt for you to know me better. The last person I was "kinda seeing" is 36. I have also been talking to a 26 year old, but I'm not quite sure where we stand, so..ehhhh... The 36 year old wants a relationship, but I'm not sure if we have the correct personality for each other. They are both from my region of origin -- basically, they are foreign as am I. More accurately, I was born abroad, but I was raised in the USA and I am a citizen. I can understand the culture of the land I was born in and I can have a conversation in the language - albeit, my fluent language is English..

To be honest, as I get older, dating//women are becoming less interesting. I notice I come to this website to procrastinate more than anything else It is interesting to see people's ideas/conclusions which is so contraire to the facts. It's like seeing people see 1 + 1 = ?, and they explicability say 4. Ultimately, it is a waste of time though.

I'm curious how you are an expert on that segment of the dating pool. I myself am 55. I have children in that segment of the dating pool, all of them attractive, the older 2 are in LTRs with a partner within a year of their own age. My 22yo son is married to someone he dated 5 years prior to marriage; my 20yo older daughter has been in LTR for 4 years with her high school sweetheart. They might marry.

I am not an expert on that "segment of the dating pool". By "segment" I assume you mean 20's dating. However, when I look at the statistics (marriage rate, birth rate, self-reported dating status, etc.. etc.. There's a lot of data regarding dating), I can come up with conclusions. you don't have to be an expert to do analysis. You just have to be logical and deal with the facts as they are. Avoid anecdotes. For example, you seem to have a good family. Your kids seem to be doing well relationship wise which is great. However, like they say, anecdotal evidence is not a substitute for facts.

Relationship wise, I am doing well for an older guy. People tell me I have good genetics and I'm doing well money-wise. I think you have a higher net worth, but it is what it is A few years ago, I use to think that men only need to improve to be viable to women.. After my divorce, I wasn't in a great place with respect to relationships. However, after "working on myself", I notice women were looking at me. I noticed a lot of things were going well in my life. I had the "piss and vinegar" that I had BEFORE I got married and had my son. For some reason, marriage really caused me to go "weak"??? I'm not sure the correct wording for it. You can say, I lost "my mojo"???? hahahah

Like you, I started to believe that men need to just "work on themselves" and they will be ok. But then I looked around. Not every men are blessed with good genetics. Not every man is bless with the patience to see their investments payoff or the ability to be better than "average". Being average is not a flaw. Society needs blue collar workers; they are the backbone of our society. These men are not like me. That doesn't make me better; it just makes me different. However, this sure does not mean they should be "swiped left" by average women which I find aggravating.

Are you dating the college coeds? If you are that is certainly exceptional. College coeds 99.8% select men in their same age group, not a man old enough to actually be her father. They choose young men to build a life & a family with.

Huhm, interesting most reports are saying marriage rates are the lowest in centuries. Birth rates down. Barely anyone is dating, especially young men. If reports are to be believed, in general college coeds are not selecting any men at all, not even men old enough to be their fathers. But whatever, your sons and daughters are doing well. They have great relationships... soo yeah, things are going well in the dating world for most people. If not, it's the average men's fault for not "doing better". I just don't agree with any of this.

 

[SW15]

Just go out and talk to women dude.

This is the best advice possible. For most men, using any sort of dating website or swipe app will be a waste of their time.

I guess it wouldn't hurt for you to know me better. The last person I was "kinda seeing" is 36. I have also been talking to a 26 year old, but I'm not quite sure where we stand, so..ehhhh... The 36 year old wants a relationship, but I'm not sure if we have the correct personality for each other.

That is good. I think it's great to date 20 something women at 35+. A 10+ year age gap is something most men would enjoy in dating at 35+.

I am not an expert on that "segment of the dating pool". By "segment" I assume you mean 20's dating. However, when I look at the statistics (marriage rate, birth rate, self-reported dating status, etc.. etc.. There's a lot of data regarding dating), I can come up with conclusions. you don't have to be an expert to do analysis. You just have to be logical and deal with the facts as they are. Avoid anecdotes. For example, you seem to have a good family. Your kids seem to be doing well relationship wise which is great. However, like they say, anecdotal evidence is not a substitute for facts.

interesting most reports are saying marriage rates are the lowest in centuries. Birth rates down. Barely anyone is dating, especially young men. If reports are to be believed, in general college coeds are not selecting any men at all, not even men old enough to be their fathers. But whatever, your sons and daughters are doing well. They have great relationships... soo yeah, things are going well in the dating world for most people. If not, it's the average men's fault for not "doing better". I just don't agree with any of this.

When the broader statistical environment is consider, most men are having worse dating outcomes. A larger percentage of men are incel or borderline incel. Gen Z as a whole is having less sex, though women are having more sex than men because of their abundance.

A large percentage of women are able to have sex and a smaller percentage of men are having sex.

Birth rates are down, even if my immediate social circle is having an absurd amount of "Last Call Babies" in their mid to late 30s. My social circle is a bunch of mid to late 30s people having 1-2 "Last Call Babies" in the last 3-4 years.