dating game...BORING

[pyros]

So a few months ago I decided to have a break from picking up girls etc. because to get a girl I normally have to deal with a dozen rejections first so it is boring and annoying.

Last weekend I decided to give it a try again. I went to some salsa club with some friends, I saw one chick that was staring at me and smiling so I danced with her etc, I took her number in a clumsy way, but hey, besides we barely talked due to the loud music. Anyway I thought she was into me because she could not stop smiling and looking deeply into my eyes while dancing.

I feel lazy. Just to think that I have to text her, wait for her reply, see if she shows interest, if she agrees to go on a date, where to take her...if she flakes or rejects me...it is just stupid and disturbs me.

Besides, if all this goes right, then I may not like her personality, or she may be low value etc etc. and then, I have to start all over again.

It would be nice to find a nice, quality woman to date her. Jeez...

P.S.
I just texted her...waiting for the damn reply...it sucks really.

 

[Starwolf]

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[Genos]

I get the same feeling sometimes.

What you have to do is realize that it's about the process. Right now you're only thinking of the goal - finding a quality woman to spend time with. But what you have to do is enjoy every damn minute of your life. Be social, and you will unwittingly and unconsciously run into women who strike your fancy.

Cultivate within yourself a love of people - there is something to learn from everyone. Your life progressing should not be dependent on how long it takes her to respond (or if she does at all).

Here's a relevant quote from senor's fingers weapons of mass seduction:
""
This doesn't just apply to searching out new lands. Indeed, every time you meet a hottie for the first time, you are not only exposing her to your world of perception, but are also exploring hers. People are just as intricate as foreign places and cultures. Everyone sees things differently and this should fascinate you. Who cares if she rejects you? She has already given you the gift of a valuable experience on foreign terrain!
"""

 

[Trump]

I get the same feeling sometimes.

Here's a relevant quote from senor's fingers weapons of mass seduction:
""
This doesn't just apply to searching out new lands. Indeed, every time you meet a hottie for the first time, you are not only exposing her to your world of perception, but are also exploring hers. People are just as intricate as foreign places and cultures. Everyone sees things differently and this should fascinate you. Who cares if she rejects you? She has already given you the gift of a valuable experience on foreign terrain!
"""

I don't know bro, not sure it's a good idea to spend your time trying to learn and explore what a girl is about. Google is 2 clicks away and so is the Apple
iPhone. They both have everything you need to know.

I think they should have sex fast, otherwise there is no point.

 

[Suspens]

Caveman MODE: Activated Just run around and grab some random tits.

Small talk, pickup lines, eye contact etc. That is too much complicated, and when you are dealing with rejection most of the time, there is no motivation left anymore. Keep fappin bro.

 

[pyros]

see?

texted her at 19:30, she read it at 20:30, its 21:40 no reply.

Considering my experience and the fact that girls have their cell-phones glued to their hands, if a girl doesnt reply in less than an hour or two she is not interested.

Next...this is just insane, really.

 

[pyros]

what?

 

[joshy]

i had the same issue when i started out try this nxt time you go out to pick up chicks....try and get more numbers so you will have more options, whenever there is an non-responsive chick you move on to the next its more fun and less stressing when there is alot of options

 

[Zarky]

The only thing that makes me do the whole "dating game" is pure horniness. When I'm not horny, all that work seems extremely tedious. So I'm with you, OP.

 

[Huffman]

Me too. I even go as far as to push myself to go out even when I'm not enjoying it, cos I had decided to "work" on it... wow yeah... it's work

 

[LMFAO]

Game can certainly be frustrating and tiresome at times.

You go through dry spells. Bang three girls one week, other times three consecutive flakes. Whoever said there's a way to eliminate flaking is full of sh!t. There isn't a way of eliminating flaking. Well not unless you stay at home and masterbate to porn all day.

There is a way of reducing flaking by going for social circle girls, but after college options can be limited.

The flaking rate can be very high otherwise. I had an online flake tonight, she confirmed yesterday, today she said she has a headache :crackup:. Number deleted.

Many girls double book guys, especially the ones who go on online dating - and single girls in the US for example are in their droves on OKCupid and Tinder (less big in Europe but increasing). Many of us have gone out on dates with girls without even knowing that they had another guy or two guys booked in for the same time. That time they "chose" us.

They can get a date with the flick of their fingers. What girls fail to get however that it is a bit of a false reality for them. They go out on a fvckload of dates, flake on quality men because they feel like it because there are lots of other men out there, reject quality men because there are lots of other men out there. They are extremely fussy because of this false reality, the reality they create themselves in total illusion without realising much of the time they end up with much worse guys - many a time rejecting even the bigger alphas for illogical reasons.

Many girls feel that they have to go through this "process" of going out on dozens and dozens of dates to find the right guy at any moment in time. They hold each one to different standards depending on her mood and situation. Eventually they get tired of it and settle or give some guy a chance, before not being sure and going on 30 more dates.

I put flaking itself down to bad parenting, ADD and social conditioning of complete entitlement that they can do whatever they want and they are untouchable. It is b1tch like behaviour, pure and simple and nothing less. If they don't want to go out fair enough, instead they are happy to go on a date and flake last minute with some BS excuse. Sometimes the made up excuse is more telling about her that anything else, like making up that her dad just had a stroke or her mum died.

How do you respond to this? You double book girls as well. If one flakes then who cares, you have a plan B.

Heck, double book them once in a while and flake on both and go golfing. :crackup:

The numbers are stacking up against us in a reality where women are approached by 100+ guys a week online. Shift the numbers in your favour instead. My way of doing this is creating an automated macro which automatically messages girls on a couple of online dating sites. I collect the girls who respond the next day with follow up messages. The result is a mostly guaranteed 3-5 dates a week just from online.

While those automated messages are going out I'm usually on a date. It's called cheating the system. :crackup:

 

[Huffman]

Hell. Messaging 30 girls a week. There must be a way for slightly above-average guys like us to get slightly above-average girls without all the bullsh1t!?

 

[pyros]

Hell. Messaging 30 girls a week. There must be a way for slightly above-average guys like us to get slightly above-average girls without all the bullsh1t!?

hahhaha, I dont know man.

See? today, before texting this silly chick, I was thinking about what to say to her, where to take her on a date, what will be the weather this week...and then I stopped and thought: "easy...she may not agree to go on a date, she may ignore you or flake..." so I just texted her how she was doing, and I got no reply. Great, now I dont have to plan anything. I dont get the ***** though.

LMAO...

I wonder if this is the norm. Well, it seems it is because I've read many times that even the best pick-up artists just get a 10% success rate from all the numbers they get from chicks, so I guess I get normal results.

P.S.
No wonder guys stick like sh-it to their gf's when they find a good one. This transforms them into betas because they are afraid their gf's will dump them but...jeezz...it is a dilemma.

A friend of mine told me once: "finding a quality gf is like finding a good job, it is frustrating and tedious."

 

[Yewki]

see?

texted her at 19:30, she read it at 20:30, its 21:40 no reply.

Considering my experience and the fact that girls have their cell-phones glued to their hands, if a girl doesnt reply in less than an hour or two she is not interested.

Next...this is just insane, really.

You need to invest more in your life outside of dating. Instead you put in too much energy thinking about every girl whose number you get. Look at yourself, you're checking the time stamps on your phone.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Yeah the if your way of improving yourself is a routine, I can imagine it getting tiresome. But try and keep it to doing what you feel like doing in 'the moment'. Hence why Pook says that men don't think about what they want, they only go after it and deal with the problems as the come along. That keeps your life quite entertaining.

 

[stevo]

You need to invest more in your life outside of dating. Instead you put in too much energy thinking about every girl whose number you get. Look at yourself, you're checking the time stamps on your phone.

I'm starting to get tired of hearing this "you should get a hobby" "you think about girls too much".

There's a time for everything. A time to go to the gym. A time to stay to yourself. A time to feel affection. A time to interact with opposite sex.

If you text a girl and she doesn't respond in an acceptable time its natural to check just how much time's past since your message to determine your next move. After an amount of time even if they respond I'm already over the convo they'll have to hit me up another day.

OP, I def understand where you're at.

I met a girl this past Saturday fine looking thing, had brief convo, cork block friends were trying to take her to the bar, I wasn't buying drinks for nobody so we had to part ways at the time. Asked her when she was free, she told me to text her and we'll make plans, gave me number, I text her next day, she takes a good hour or two then responds with "wrong number" I mean WTF!

Again there's time for everything, girls just make it really annoying for guys and funny thing is almost all the time they're not worth the trouble they put us through.

 

[skinnyguy]

Again there's time for everything, girls just make it really annoying for guys and funny thing is almost all the time they're not worth the trouble they put us through.

Are any girls worth the trouble?

 

[pyros]

I completely understand the philosophy about having hobbies, improving yourself...and then women, but we all know that if we had a hottie by our side that gave us good sex whenever we wanted it, we wouldn't need to have 10 hobbies or other activities to keep us entertained and happy LOL.

Not everybody can be spinning two or more plates every month unless you're a damn celebrity, or you're the kind of guy that goes to cold approach 100 girls a month. So if you 'pick up' one chick you like, it is totally normal to be a bit anxious about meeting with her and all the possibilities involved.

Yes, I checked the time stamp, but I think we all do this when we text a friend or a relative and he takes long to reply, so the same applies for women.

Anyway, I have to admit that THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I GET A GIRL'S NUMBER, TEXT HER, AND SHE DOESNT EVEN REPLY.

P.S.
We all need a good sexy woman by our side or we get sad eventually. It is totally normal. We are NOT designed to be cloistered monks, having lots of hobbies, good jobs...but no women. No sir.

 

[MOTU]

I am with Yewski, you need to change your focus for a bit Pyros. I get where you and Stevo are coming from saying that pursuing and getting a chick is a worthwhile endeavor, but here's the thing:
- Chicks want a dude who is about more than getting chicks. You have to show them a world different than their own.
- Chicks can smell desperation from miles away, like sharks smell blood in the water. You can't pretend not to be desperate, you have to kill your desperation all together. Read some Pook.
- You have to be the kid of quality guy that a quality girl wants. PUA sh!t works for getting numbers and laying club rats, but it's only the start of the path to getting a decent woman.

So in summary: you want a bad-@ss chick? Be a bad-@ss dude.

PS: I get your feeling that it can just be drudgery meeting b!tches. Back when I was dating a lot, sometimes it felt like just going through the motions. And it was almost sad how easy it was to find most chicks buttons and pushing them, if they gave you the chance. And it often seemed like the ones I wanted weren't the ones that wanted me, and the ones that wanted me didn't interest me. When I got that way I would take a break and focus on playing guitar or riding my MC. It was on one such break that I met my GF at an open mic night I was playing.

 

[pyros]

so this chick replied to my text today, almost one day later, here is the convo:

me: "hey X it's Pyros"
me: "how are you doing?"
her (one day later): "hi, Im good thanks. I wont go to dance salsa until Sunday"


Do you notice that I did not even mention salsa in my text? wtf?
I have to say that I met her in a salsa club, and before getting her number I asked her if she came everyweek etc, but I did not say a word about this in my short text.

I am planning to reply to her tomorrow, and send her either a mere pinnaple emoticon (just to mess with her head), or a few emoticons implying drinks and sex.

Thoughts?