Dating epiphany phase women as a former nice guy

[JuanSama]

Since I turned into an old man, I've been getting more attention from older women aged 28+. It's not the same attention I get from younger women because those are mostly looking to have fun. No, the old ones want longer term commitment on my part. Some of them tend to shame me with words like "you seem immature because you don't want to settle down" or fear tactics about becoming the old guy at the club. Basically, these women no longer want to spread their legs for chad 24/7, but instead, want someone who they can also build a relationship with.

Thing is, I used to be a nice guy when I was young, so I didn't get much sex at all. Now that I'm getting some, I have trouble justifying why I should settle down with these women. With the younger ones, I have to put on a massive act to get any intimacy because I'm still a nice guy on the inside. I guess older women are attracted to that part of me. But I'm sure that they're gonna be thinking about cheating with chad while ovulating because of the dual mating strategy.

I don't know if this is an ego thing where I can't accept the fact that I'm basically getting chad's leftovers because I didn't get to enjoy these women when they were at their prime. I know plenty of men who happily settled down with women who rode the carousel during their younger years. Or maybe I'm just being smart here.

What are you guys' thoughts on this?

 

[SW15]

the old ones want longer term commitment on my part.

This tends to be a thing for them.

these women no longer want to spread their legs for chad 24/7, but instead, want someone who they can also build a relationship with.

There are some women who will continue to carousel ride into their 30s.

I used to be a nice guy when I was young, so I didn't get much sex at all.

Typical

Now that I'm getting some, I have trouble justifying why I should settle down with these women.

It's a challenging feeling. The women your age right now didn't want you when you were in your teens and early 20s.

In most cases, it isn't the exact same set women. It is different women who are the same age as the prime age women who rejected you a decade ago.

I'm sure that they're gonna be thinking about cheating with chad while ovulating because of the dual mating strategy.

Many of them won't be ovulating because they use birth control.

I don't know if this is an ego thing where I can't accept the fact that I'm basically getting chad's leftovers because I didn't get to enjoy these women when they were at their prime. I know plenty of men who happily settled down with women who rode the carousel during their younger years. Or maybe I'm just being smart here.

If you have elevated SMV now at 30, you still have a good opportunity to seek out women in their early 20s.

I wouldn't rule out a 28-30 year old woman right now solely on her age, but I can see why you would proceed with caution.

You are being smart here.

 

[New_Journey]

Since I turned into an old man

Bad start

It's not the same attention I get from younger women because those are mostly looking to have fun.

Most women are looking to have fun

Some of them tend to shame me with words like "you seem immature because you don't want to settle down" or fear tactics about becoming the old guy at the club.

You respond with "Ok"

Basically, these women no longer want to spread their legs for chad 24/7, but instead, want someone who they can also build a relationship with.

You think women don't want a relationship with Chad?

I used to be a nice guy when I was young

By the way you write, still are

I have trouble justifying why I should settle down with these women.

You don't have to justify $hit to anyone.

I have to put on a massive act to get any intimacy

Explain more, this will be the root cause, write what do you mean by act.

But I'm sure that they're gonna be thinking about cheating with chad while ovulating because of the dual mating strategy.

I got a better idea, why don't you become the guy they wanna cheat with?

I don't know if this is an ego thing where I can't accept the fact that I'm basically getting chad's leftovers because I didn't get to enjoy these women when they were at their prime.

Yes it is an ego $tupid $hit. Why do you give a fvck that Chad fvcked her? How about fvcking her better than Chad and making her your $lut in bed? Have you thought about that? Or you don't think you are enough to compete against Chad?

Do you think Chad is thinking "Oh fvck, this girl was fvcked by this other Chad, yuck, I'm fvcking a leftover"?

Men don't worry about those who they perceived are below him, you think Chad is above you, then become Chad.

I know plenty of men who happily settled down with women who rode the carousel during their younger years.

Cause it doesn't fvcking matter in the end, you'll never gonna know her true body count, so don't worry about it. What you should worry is to fvck as many girls as you can so you don't have to worry about hers.

 

[Dr.Suave]

Now that I'm getting some, I have trouble justifying why I should settle down with these women.

This is your gut telling you this 304s are for recreational use only. Do not give them exclusivity.

I don't know if this is an ego thing where I can't accept the fact that I'm basically getting chad's leftovers because I didn't get to enjoy these women when they were at their prime.

Ego may or may not be a part of it. Too many variables.

I know plenty of men who happily settled down with women who rode the carousel during their younger years.

If they are happy, good for them. Would you be happy marrying a carousel rider? Pump & ghost those girls who are not up to your standards. But ony you get to decide what your standards are.

Or maybe I'm just being smart here.

I think you are. Other members will say you are insecure or something (Maybe they are projecting? Who knows, I dont care enoguh to discuss with them).

What are you guys' thoughts on this?

I think you should talk to @pipeman84 and @Modern Man Advice (if he´s still around). When you get contradicting advice from different members, decide what´s best for you and ignore the rest.

 

[pipeman84]

Since I got tagged by @Dr.Suave I'll give my 3 cents:
- if you're 30 as stated in your profile and consider yourself an old man, you have a big problem right there
- if you want to settle down, then do it with a young woman with as little baggage as possible
- discussing commitment and justifying yourself to women who you know have ridden the carousel or have relationship baggage is not only a waste of time but also demeaning.

 

[maturin]

Keep putting yourself first. Do it until it becomes second nature. That'll kill the nice guy hold over. No special treatment given from the start. Did they earn it? Dump a few who bore you. They aren't measuring up. No explanations required. Did you get explainations? Get in the habit of dumping them. Now you're playing hardball. Nice guy crap never worked. It's the premier method to be taken advantage of.

 

[Gamisch]

Bad start


Most women are looking to have fun


You respond with "Ok"


You think women don't want a relationship with Chad?


By the way you write, still are


You don't have to justify $hit to anyone.


Explain more, this will be the root cause, write what do you mean by act.


I got a better idea, why don't you become the guy they wanna cheat with?


Yes it is an ego $tupid $hit. Why do you give a fvck that Chad fvcked her? How about fvcking her better than Chad and making her your $lut in bed? Have you thought about that? Or you don't think you are enough to compete against Chad?

Do you think Chad is thinking "Oh fvck, this girl was fvcked by this other Chad, yuck, I'm fvcking a leftover"?

Men don't worry about those who they perceived are below him, you think Chad is above you, then become Chad.


Cause it doesn't fvcking matter in the end, you'll never gonna know her true body count, so don't worry about it. What you should worry is to fvck as many girls as you can so you don't have to worry about hers.

I agree with most you said expect that her bodycount doesn't matter. However, I do agree with the fact that you simply can't straight up for that number. Yoiu gotta FEEL it. A small conco will give you all the information you need.

Perhaps you should've added that as long as you also just having fun, her bodycount is irrelevant. The game is to have fun ,untill you meet one that's worth it.

Many men forget that VOLUME is a necessity to increase the chance you find one worth fighting for. Instead they take whatever they can get, go all in and 6 months later it's poof all gone with tons of drama.

If anything, any woman you deal with should feel the pressure that you're one "hello" away from your next conquest.

 

[Vanderdonck]

Since I turned into an old man, I've been getting more attention from older women aged 28+. It's not the same attention I get from younger women because those are mostly looking to have fun. No, the old ones want longer term commitment on my part. Some of them tend to shame me with words like "you seem immature because you don't want to settle down" or fear tactics about becoming the old guy at the club. Basically, these women no longer want to spread their legs for chad 24/7, but instead, want someone who they can also build a relationship with.

Thing is, I used to be a nice guy when I was young, so I didn't get much sex at all. Now that I'm getting some, I have trouble justifying why I should settle down with these women. With the younger ones, I have to put on a massive act to get any intimacy because I'm still a nice guy on the inside. I guess older women are attracted to that part of me. But I'm sure that they're gonna be thinking about cheating with chad while ovulating because of the dual mating strategy.

I don't know if this is an ego thing where I can't accept the fact that I'm basically getting chad's leftovers because I didn't get to enjoy these women when they were at their prime. I know plenty of men who happily settled down with women who rode the carousel during their younger years. Or maybe I'm just being smart here.

What are you guys' thoughts on this?

You're only 30. Date younger women. What's the problem here?