couldn't break LMR even though acted cool .. what to do next time?

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Ahoy there wise guys !

Here's a new story:
There's this girl that really has been into me since the moment I met her. I think I met her couple of months back in this one coffee shop I hang out very often. She'd call me out to places all the time, be nice to me even though I occasionally didn't respond to her texts or even her calls. All my buddies saw that she was really into me, and they mad fun of me because I have always been reluctant to "close the deal". I was hesitating until last night for two reasons:

1) She is in a committed relationship and she bored me to death with her stories about his boyfriend (or fiancee) whenever she had to chance of getting my attention for more than 5 minutes. So I really didn't feel like it for a long time although I had plenty of chances.

2) She is not HOT enough! A 6 maybe a 6.5 when she dresses up and puts make-up ..

She recently graduated (thank god) and moved to another city and her job starts in a couple of months. She's free until then. She decides to spend some of her free time here in her college town and some other places ..

Anyway, she relentlessly texted and called called yesterday so I finally went out with her. With zero effort on my part, after a long night, she ended up in my place and we started making out. (Well, I wasn't completely sober so I didn't mind going forward) .. Plus, she will completely disappear from my life very soon so why not, right?... The fact that she got a job and will be moving to Austin also encouraged me to escalate with her.

Well, after some heavy make-out she goes:

"You know my situation and I can't sleep with you"..

Ok so I wasn't really desperately horny and nor did I really really want to bang her so I said I am cool with it and I respect her decision. She did resist in the morning as well and then I had to go to work so it didn't go much forward.

Meanwhile, she wants me to take a 4-day break in the last week of January to go to Vegas with her. Just for a short crazy holiday... She proposed to cover the hotel and plane costs and she literally begged me to go with her. It's not that I'd let her cover everything if I were to go, but I didn't say anything at the time and I said I'd think about it ..

Some of you know I am a graduate student so taking 4 or 5 days off work is not a big deal for me, as I am not taking any classes.

But I also would like to defuse her defenses and fully enjoy my time with her in our future encounters :)

I have really been maintaining a cool, and positive attitude towards her so my question is, how can I "trick" her into sleeping with me without losing my firm ground here ?
 

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Mate, stop overthinking it. You're getting a paid holiday, just go. When you're out of town on a holiday, women's LMR drops at the same light speed as their panties. Girls don't feel slvtty when they're in a different city, so there's no reason for an ASD. Your situation will sort itself out.
 

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Dude, if she's paying, then just go and have fun. Chances are you get a couple of drinks in her and she'll go for it...if not, you're in Vegas. Go find a girl that will. Oooh that will burn her up. :D

If she gives you any crap, just throw it back at her..."I know your situation and I wouldn't dare jeopardize your relationship. So I'm gonna go find some cute ladies to dance with. Don't wait up."

I think this is one place where given enough time, alcohol, and a touch of competition anxiety, she'll cave. Just be patient. If you get frustrated and show it, she will clam up.
 

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What do you mean she also "resisted in the morning?"

Did you really let her stay over without the sex? I would have told her to get out.

Did you sleep in the bed with her?
 

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She is not hot, and by the sounds of it you are not really attracted to her anyway. Why do you care to bother?
 

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This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Jitterbug said:
Mate, stop overthinking it. You're getting a paid holiday, just go. When you're out of town on a holiday, women's LMR drops at the same light speed as their panties. Girls don't feel slvtty when they're in a different city, so there's no reason for an ASD. Your situation will sort itself out.
You are right. I am definitely overanalyzing. Too bad I can't stop thinking the various catastrophic ways it can turn out. I am a little scared for no reason, :p maybe I am just being a wuss! :)
 

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squirrels said:
Dude, if she's paying, then just go and have fun. Chances are you get a couple of drinks in her and she'll go for it...if not, you're in Vegas. Go find a girl that will. Oooh that will burn her up. :D

If she gives you any crap, just throw it back at her..."I know your situation and I wouldn't dare jeopardize your relationship. So I'm gonna go find some cute ladies to dance with. Don't wait up."

I think this is one place where given enough time, alcohol, and a touch of competition anxiety, she'll cave. Just be patient. If you get frustrated and show it, she will clam up.
Right, this is exactly what I am trying to avoid..! The frustration .. I should be patient but I just don't have enough time because we'll only have a few nights together.. I need some aversion tactics :rolleyes:
 

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Bluntmaster said:
What do you mean she also "resisted in the morning?"

Did you really let her stay over without the sex? I would have told her to get out.

Did you sleep in the bed with her?

I really let her stay over without the sex. I slept in the bed with her, yes. It felt better than sleeping alone. Throwing her out? You have got to be kidding me..
 

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Jamo said:
She is not hot, and by the sounds of it you are not really attracted to her anyway. Why do you care to bother?
Well, I have never been to Vegas before and a cheap 4-5 day fling with an easygoing person like her could be a very good experience.
But I am not sure for some reason ??!?!?!
 

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Boilermaker said:
Well, after some heavy make-out she goes:

"You know my situation and I can't sleep with you"..
Attention Hoar cokteaser supreme...and only a 6.

You let her sleep in your bed. You are her teddy bear then are you?

Wake up bro.
 

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Zunder said:
Attention Hoar cokteaser supreme...and only a 6.

You let her sleep in your bed. You are her teddy bear then are you?

Wake up bro.
Wow sHarp diagnosis ... I am impressed. Yes I am her teddy bear, whose teddy bear are you these days BTW?

Don't be such a bitter hater, bro. It's okay.

I won't take her offer, if that's burning your ass this bad, please don't get depressed over this sh!t ! :crackup:
 

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Jitterbug said:
Mate, stop overthinking it. You're getting a paid holiday, just go. When you're out of town on a holiday, women's LMR drops at the same light speed as their panties. Girls don't feel slvtty when they're in a different city, so there's no reason for an ASD. Your situation will sort itself out.
Slvtty girl + free trip + a new town + competition anxiety from more attractive girls + Boilermaker = WOOO HOOO!
 

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Jitterbug said:
Mate, stop overthinking it. You're getting a paid holiday, just go. When you're out of town on a holiday, women's LMR drops at the same light speed as their panties. Girls don't feel slvtty when they're in a different city, so there's no reason for an ASD. Your situation will sort itself out.

^^^^^^^^^^^


This! Jitterbug is right on the money. I wouldn't turn down a free trip to Vegas. I'd go and have fun and let the chips fall where they may.

You're psyching yourself out.


Cheers!
 

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As someone who has taken advantage of free vacations from a b1tch.. of course you go man.. and you have fun and get her azz to pay for the meals too, remember that. Anyways, try to hit it there.. she should be down, if not then go out and fukk other girls.. yes I've daygamed on one of those vacations before.. ha
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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thanks a million guys, I am most definitely going !!!

I'll let you know how it turns out !!
 

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It seems to me that you're more invested in this then you're letting on. You say you're not that attracted to her and she's about a 6, but do you have any other options? I think not, given the amount of thought you've put into this. I wouldn't try to sleep with this chick at all, but I would take the free trip. Do this without making any moves on her what-so-ever and concentrate on the other women you meet out there. She's teased and blocked you twice already, any more effort from you in this way only makes you look desperate. If she wants to f-ck she's gonna have to literally jump on your c-ck.
 

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Boilermaker said:
I really let her stay over without the sex. I slept in the bed with her, yes. It felt better than sleeping alone. Throwing her out? You have got to be kidding me..

Why is it better than sleeping alone? I'd rather sleep alone than with a girl like that.

Can't kick her out? I would have at least made her sleep on the sofa. Don't be so soft, no wonder she won't put out.
 

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As someone who has gone to Vegas, I don't know, 150 times in my life, half of which with a girl/girlfriend, I can tell you that going there with someone you don't really even like is going to be a nightmare for you. It is hard enough spending that much time there with someone you are really into. Trust me by the 3rd day you are usually ready to go home. You have to spend all day and night with her, you sleep with her, get dressed with her there, sh1t with her there, eat with her, it can get tiring. Vegas is GREAT, and I mean that, but if I was going with a girl? You better damn well make sure it is with a girl I am really into and get along with. You stated you sometimes have trouble being around her for more than 5 minutes...try 5 straight days haha. And only a 6 dressed up? Not worth it.

And how is she doing this without her bf knowing? Odd.

Also, if you are going before April or so, the weather will be too cool for pool action, which means more time inside. Which means more time with her. Now, if you have money and can spend all night gambling by yourself? Go. But if not, you are asking for trouble imo.
 

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cordoncordon said:
As someone who has gone to Vegas, I don't know, 150 times in my life, half of which with a girl/girlfriend, I can tell you that going there with someone you don't really even like is going to be a nightmare for you. It is hard enough spending that much time there with someone you are really into. Trust me by the 3rd day you are usually ready to go home. You have to spend all day and night with her, you sleep with her, get dressed with her there, sh1t with her there, eat with her, it can get tiring.QUOTE]

This is a main reason I'm so down on the LTR bit. It just seems like you would get sick to death of each other. I lived with a serious LTR when I was 21-22, but we both had a bathroom and I don't remember feeling strangled. But when I think of LTRs now, I picture fighting and smelling sh!t and feeling trapped...I don't know, I may have an unhealthy bias against relationships.

That is, until I read the next "Beta of the Month" over at Roissy and shudder.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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