communication and discipline in LTR's it's an Art

[jhonny9546]

So, we would all like to learn how to keep women at bay, discipline them, and help them embrace their feminine qualities. Those of us who have not had a solid foundation from which to "learn" the discipline that a man must impart to others—in the right way—may want to learn how to do this effectively. This involves using the right tone, approaching the situation appropriately, and striving to avoid violence. We might be interested in exploring various professions or hobbies to gain these skills.

One example that comes to mind is the dog trainer, who, although working with animals rather than humans, teaches us how to discipline and maintain boundaries according to our values. Of course, there are other professions, such as school educators and sports coaches, and there are likely many more examples to consider.

In my humble opinion, this knowledge would help people immensely in treating others with respect, allowing them to gain it in a clear and experienced manner, even if subtly. What do you think?


ps: all this should be centered for what concern a LTR with a woman.

 

[plumber]

not much need to manager her, if we can manage ourselves.

never had much issue with dogs. unless the dog is really dumb.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Where do you come up with this random stream of consciousness stuff?

This sounds like some random ChatGPT generated content

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

This sounds like some random ChatGPT generated content

Hey, it's not easy coming up with content when you don't have a creative bone in your body.

 

[jhonny9546]

Where do you come up with this random stream of consciousness stuff?

This sounds like some random ChatGPT generated content

I'm learning

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I'm learning

Doesn't seem like it

 

[The Duke]

I'm learning

What have you learned so far?

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I'm learning

Start applying what you've learned or you will be stuck in information overload.

 

[jhonny9546]

What have you learned so far?

General Knowledge about Various Pills and Women's Psychology

What I Have Applied:

- I know what "diligence" really means.
- I understand SMV and the importance of self-improvement from within. Me looking better, fit, clothing, grooming, etc, more attractive to women, more interest by em, and more happy with my self when I see that body working with weights.
- I've learnt to validate myself, and to minimize validation from others (80/20)
- I value "social interactions" more.
- I do not treat women as a necessity or put them on a pedestal.
- I know how to deal with oneitis (an obsessive infatuation with one person).
- I can differentiate between what is high value and what is not for me.
- I prioritize my core values above everything else; they guide me.
- I place my life goals above all else.
- I work hard for my goals and future achievements.
- I strive to be assertive and relaxed when women are angry, rather than reactive.

What I Know but Don’t Yet Apply Correctly:

I understand the following concepts but am unsure how to apply them effectively in real-life situations. Perhaps I'm missing the right examples that I can replicate and try out:

- Recognizing what a woman is feeling (her emotional state) and understanding how she needs to feel in order to feel "good.". So making women feel good in my presence in the appropriate way (whether at work, during casual interactions, in intimate conversations, or while playing, etc), in the right way.
- Understanding what it means to behave like a masculine man, in the right way.
- Maintaining a LTR with a woman, in the right way.



I am not focused on dating per se; instead, my dating experiences occur during everyday interactions with women. I want to have my "Swiss Army knife" ready for use in daily life, prepared to engage at the right time, in the right way, and with the right person.




ps: In this world, I've also learned that there are exceptions to the rules. When I see men married to women who pay for everything the men need—providing for them like a "child"—I can only imagine that this represents a reversed feminine-masculine long-term relationship, or perhaps that they are blue-pilled, or who knows. For this reason, I'm sorry, but I've been shaped by these experiences from my childhood and have never had a true masculine figure to inspire myself on, or to see which was the "truth" to it.

 

[The Duke]

General Knowledge about Various Pills and Women's Psychology

What I Have Applied:

- I know what "diligence" really means.
- I understand SMV and the importance of self-improvement from within. Me looking better, fit, clothing, grooming, etc, more attractive to women, more interest by em, and more happy with my self when I see that body working with weights.
- I've learnt to validate myself, and to minimize validation from others (80/20)
- I value "social interactions" more.
- I do not treat women as a necessity or put them on a pedestal.
- I know how to deal with oneitis (an obsessive infatuation with one person).
- I can differentiate between what is high value and what is not for me.
- I prioritize my core values above everything else; they guide me.
- I place my life goals above all else.
- I work hard for my goals and future achievements.
- I strive to be assertive and relaxed when women are angry, rather than reactive.

What I Know but Don’t Yet Apply Correctly:

I understand the following concepts but am unsure how to apply them effectively in real-life situations. Perhaps I'm missing the right examples that I can replicate and try out:

- Recognizing what a woman is feeling (her emotional state) and understanding how she needs to feel in order to feel "good.". So making women feel good in my presence in the appropriate way (whether at work, during casual interactions, in intimate conversations, or while playing, etc), in the right way.
- Understanding what it means to behave like a masculine man, in the right way.
- Maintaining a LTR with a woman, in the right way.



I am not focused on dating per se; instead, my dating experiences occur during everyday interactions with women. I want to have my "Swiss Army knife" ready for use in daily life, prepared to engage at the right time, in the right way, and with the right person.




ps: In this world, I've also learned that there are exceptions to the rules. When I see men married to women who pay for everything the men need—providing for them like a "child"—I can only imagine that this represents a reversed feminine-masculine long-term relationship, or perhaps that they are blue-pilled, or who knows. For this reason, I'm sorry, but I've been shaped by these experiences from my childhood and have never had a true masculine figure to inspire myself on, or to see which was the "truth" to it.

The things you have learned will help significantly and will help you learn other things that make you successful. Like building blocks. Its a journey, but you have the right mindset, are smart, and have a strong desire to learn.

 

[jhonny9546]

The things you have learned will help significantly and will help you learn other things that make you successful. Like building blocks. Its a journey, but you have the right mindset, are smart, and have a strong desire to learn.

Thanks Duke! This helps me validate my inner validation of the idea of what I'm trying to accomplish: be a Mature man.
I wonder how many years it will take to reach a "sufficient" point to be mature enough to manage a LTR with a valuable woman, and make a family togheter. I wish I can turn my "being" smart to being less logical when talking with women and other people

 

[Divorced w 3]

‘Discipline’ your woman? This kind of thinking will backfire. I tried it. It will absolutely blow up.

I went to therapy yesterday. Some here who have known me for long enough may recall that periodically, my emotional response clouds my logical behavior and produces outcomes that are counterproductive to me and others.

We have all heard the old saying, hold your breath for five seconds. What he added, that was new to me anyway was, find the right words to articulate what you are feeling. So I have an idea.

Something bothers you? Say it. Don’t play quiet games of diversion and Jedi mind tricks with her. Try the following on for size:

Being in regular contact with former partners is a spot that makes me uncomfortable and not something I am looking for in a relationship. If that is something that bothers you I understand, but that is what I am looking for in a partner.

Real men have conviction and shoot it straight. I’ll post more about my journey later.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Being in regular contact with former partners is a spot that makes me uncomfortable and not something I am looking for in a relationship. If that is something that bothers you I understand, but that is what I am looking for in a partner.

I think you need some nuance here. You're divorced, as I am. You have children, so have I. I co-parent my children, so any woman who gets involved with me will know that I'm in regular contact with my ex-wife.
Also, I counsel PTSD men and women, so I have a lot of contact with other women. Women who are 'uncomfortable' with that, would just have to suck it up.

So don't be surprised if a lover would tell you to suck it up, because they have ongoing business with ex-husband or ex-boyfriends.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I think you need some nuance here. You're divorced, as I am. You have children, so have I. I co-parent my children, so any woman who gets involved with me will know that I'm in regular contact with my ex-wife.
Also, I counsel PTSD men and women, so I have a lot of contact with other women. Women who are 'uncomfortable' with that, would just have to suck it up.

So don't be surprised if a lover would tell you to suck it up, because they have ongoing business with ex-husband or ex-boyfriends.

Of course that nothing is hard and fast, but I am sure it’s a small window of exceptions as well.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Of course that nothing is hard and fast, but I am sure it’s a small window of exceptions as well.

I encounter the occasional lover who gets jealous if I get attention from other women, especially if she perceives their behaviour as flirting, but that doesn't mean I'm going to change my behaviour. I think a little dread is good to keep her feeling lucky to be with me.

 

[CornbreadFed]

not much need to manager her, if we can manage ourselves.

never had much issue with dogs. unless the dog is really dumb.

There’s a lot of bad dog owners though

 

[Solomon]

Where do you come up with this random stream of consciousness stuff?

This sounds like some random ChatGPT generated content

Bro I legit laughed out loud chocking on my own spit (nasty my bad) but this was hilarious

 

[jhonny9546]

I encounter the occasional lover who gets jealous if I get attention from other women, especially if she perceives their behaviour as flirting

Reverse the POV: what would you do if your women it's attrattive and get attention from other men, and your height it's 163cm?

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Reverse the POV: what would you do if your women it's attrattive and get attention from other men, and your height it's 163cm?

I don't know what your height does in this question, except signalling that you're insecure about your height.

I don't care if other men flirt with my women. It's probably good for their ego. Doesn't mean she's going to suck their penis.

 

[Divorced w 3]

I don't know what your height does in this question, except signalling that you're insecure about your height.

I don't care if other men flirt with my women. It's probably good for their ego. Doesn't mean she's going to suck their penis.

Exactly - it’s simply a litmus test on your strength of your own relationship. If she flirts back, that’s something to consider.