coffee and bulking

[Jay-X]

has drinking lots of coffee any effect (positive/negative) on your bulking, because of caffeine?

 

[TheNewGuy]

Originally posted by Jay-X
has drinking lots of coffee any effect (positive/negative) on your bulking, because of caffeine?

Well, caffeine increases heart rate, which burns fat. Whether or not it's a negligible amount or not... I don't know.

 

[brucevangeorge]

Coffee is ****. Do you even know what effects caffeine has on your system?

Its like liquid masturbation. Sure it tastes good and you feel refreshed for awhile, but you become dependent on it and then it ****s you up.

 

[diablo]

Coffee has around 0-1 calories per serving.

Caffeine is probably the most frequently ingested pharmacologically active substance in the world. It is found in common beverages (coffee, tea, soft drinks), in products containing cocoa or chocolate, and in medications. Because of its wide consumption at different levels by most segments of the population, the public and the scientific community have expressed interest in the potential for caffeine to produce adverse effects on human health. The possibility that caffeine ingestion adversely affects human health was investigated based on reviews of (primarily) published human studies obtained through a comprehensive literature search. Based on the data reviewed, it is concluded that for the healthy adult population, moderate daily caffeine intake at a dose level up to 400 mg day(-1) (equivalent to 6 mg kg(-1) body weight day(-1) in a 65-kg person) is not associated with adverse effects such as general toxicity, cardiovascular effects, effects on bone status and calcium balance (with consumption of adequate calcium), changes in adult behaviour, increased incidence of cancer and effects on male fertility.

-taken from:

Effects of caffeine on human health.
Nawrot P, Jordan S, Eastwood J, Rotstein J, Hugenholtz A, Feeley M.
Toxicological Evaluation Section, Chemical Health Hazard Assessment Division, Bureau of Chemical Safety, Food Directorate, Health Canada, Tunney's Pasture, PL 2204D1, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1A 0L2. peter_nawrot@hc-sc.gc.ca
Food Addit Contam 2003 Jan;20(1):1-30

 

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Originally posted by brucevangeorge
Coffee is ****. Do you even know what effects caffeine has on your system?

Its like liquid masturbation. Sure it tastes good and you feel refreshed for awhile, but you become dependent on it and then it ****s you up.

Don't like caffeine? That's what decaf coffee is for. Personally, I don't mind the caffeine b/c I have to sit in class all day.

Of course, I think that decaf tastes like shyt compared to real coffee, but that's just me talking.

Coffee is full of antioxidants, which helps prevent cancer. I usually drink a few cups a day.

 

[RaWBLooD]

if you drink coffee regularly its not healthy, cause its a stimulant, drinking it once or twice a month tho (literally if you dont wanna screw yourself up) itll simply make you use up more calories because of its heightening effect on heart rate.

 

[Warboss Alex]

Do you really think that if you if you take in twice your bodyweight in protein grams every day, with a load of other food as well, lift using the big bore compounds with which you constantly progress in safe form, follow reasonable pre-, post- and post-post-workout protocols and give yourself enough rest and sleep for your body to recover from your workouts, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET BIG BECAUSE YOU DRINK ****ING COFFEE EVERY DAY!?

Spices also raise your metabolism like caffeine does. Will you stop eating spicy food now?

Seriously, people make huge issues about really insignificant stuff when they don't have a clue about basic nutrition, because if they did, THEY WOULDN'T BE ASKING THIS SORT OF DAFT QUESTION.

Coffee holding back your gains, give me strength...

 

[Jay-X]

Originally posted by Warboss Alex


Seriously, people make huge issues about really insignificant stuff when they don't have a clue about basic nutrition, because if they did, THEY WOULDN'T BE ASKING THIS SORT OF DAFT QUESTION.

Coffee holding back your gains, give me strength...

man, if i already knew the answer, would have i asked the question? for what i know, it could even be helpful to growth, therefore i asked

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by Warboss Alex
Do you really think that if you if you take in twice your bodyweight in protein grams every day, with a load of other food as well, lift using the big bore compounds with which you constantly progress in safe form, follow reasonable pre-, post- and post-post-workout protocols and give yourself enough rest and sleep for your body to recover from your workouts, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET BIG BECAUSE YOU DRINK ****ING COFFEE EVERY DAY!?

Spices also raise your metabolism like caffeine does. Will you stop eating spicy food now?

Seriously, people make huge issues about really insignificant stuff when they don't have a clue about basic nutrition, because if they did, THEY WOULDN'T BE ASKING THIS SORT OF DAFT QUESTION.

Coffee holding back your gains, give me strength...

hah you mean 2g/ kg of bodyweight?

the accurate measure is 1.2 g per pound of lean mass

 

[semag]

Originally posted by RaWBLooD
hah you mean 2g/ kg of bodyweight?

the accurate measure is 1.2 g per pound of lean mass

no, he means 2g/lb of bodyweight.

 

[Jay-X]

Originally posted by RaWBLooD
hah you mean 2g/ kg of bodyweight?

the accurate measure is 1.2 g per pound of lean mass

it sounds pretty low protein intake... it would be like 100 g a day, wouldn't it?

 

[Lifeforce]

I seriously think he means for us to take in double our bodyweight in protein. But I guess eating 160 kg lean protein a day would be expensive =)

 

[Warboss Alex]

Okay, what I MEANT was if you're 120 lbs and want to get to 150 lbs say, you should be eating as close to 300g (double your target bodyweight) as possible, with this protein taken preferably from protein sources e.g. meats, dairy, eggs etc. (don't count the protein in rice for example)

Get as much of that from solid food, limit whey as much as possible, it's no substitute for a steak or even plain old tuna.

On workout days you should be eating that much and have a hefty pwo shake on top of that.

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by semag
no, he means 2g/lb of bodyweight.

first, you're not him, 2nd 2g per pound is too much unless you are on gear.

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by Jay-X
it sounds pretty low protein intake... it would be like 100 g a day, wouldn't it?

yeah if you are a skinny 120 lbs kid, sounds about perfect, if you are a lean 240 lbs , 265 sounds about right too.
im not sure why people ask a question that is answered by what they are asking about. are you saying its not enough?
100 g for a 120 lbs kid and about 265 for a lean 240 lbs guy is great.

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by Lifeforce
I seriously think he means for us to take in double our bodyweight in protein. But I guess eating 160 kg lean protein a day would be expensive =)

nah bro thats only about 150 chickens

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by Warboss Alex
Okay, what I MEANT was if you're 120 lbs and want to get to 150 lbs say, you should be eating as close to 300g (double your target bodyweight) as possible, with this protein taken preferably from protein sources e.g. meats, dairy, eggs etc. (don't count the protein in rice for example)

Get as much of that from solid food, limit whey as much as possible, it's no substitute for a steak or even plain old tuna.

On workout days you should be eating that much and have a hefty pwo shake on top of that.

So are you advising about 6000 calories too?
I'm sure you arent
if the ratio of protein to carbs and fat is that high your body will learn to feed off protein, and any time you miss a meal itll feed off stored protein (ie muscles organs brain- mostly muscles)

120g of protein for such a person would be quite enough if he has his carbohydrates and unsaturated fats in order.

 

[semag]

Originally posted by RaWBLooD
first, you're not him, 2nd 2g per pound is too much unless you are on gear.

first, I know what he meant and so I reiterated it to you, and second, no.

that kinda person (120lb guy trying to get to 150 lbs) would be hitting 300 g protein, ~70-80g or so of fats, and prolly 100 g or so of carbs per day = ~2320 cals.

 

[Jay-X]

Originally posted by RaWBLooD
yeah if you are a skinny 120 lbs kid, sounds about perfect, if you are a lean 240 lbs , 265 sounds about right too.
im not sure why people ask a question that is answered by what they are asking about. are you saying its not enough?
100 g for a 120 lbs kid and about 265 for a lean 240 lbs guy is great.

this winter, when i weighed 130 and i used to eat around 100 g of proteins a day, it didn't work at all... now i'm 150 lbs and i don't seem to grow, even though i eat around 130 g of proteins a day, so your prot intake looks pretty low

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by semag
first, I know what he meant and so I reiterated it to you, and second, no.

that kinda person (120lb guy trying to get to 150 lbs) would be hitting 300 g protein, ~70-80g or so of fats, and prolly 100 g or so of carbs per day = ~2320 cals.

getting such a large percentage of calories from protein is not the best idea, ive already stated why i believe.