Co worker explains why girls smash the "loser"

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Isn't that the same with us guys? I mean, I'd smash the hoe with injected lips and fake boobs asap (she's sex material only anyway) whereas I'd be in no hurry to have sex with a quality girl.
No it’s not the same. We are getting confused between sex and commitment,

First, quality has to be defined, There is no such thing as a quality girl.
Second, even if a man was to meet a “quality” girl, he would have to sleep with her fast, otherwise she would move on. Once he sleeps with her, then he can go for commitment,

Let’s say you meet the hottest, educated, nicest, submissive girl and you want a full blown relationship with her. You are going to wait to sleep with her? No way you are, You are going to sleep with her as fast as possible so she doesn’t go elsewhere.
 

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First, quality has to be defined, There is no such thing as a quality girl.
Second, even if a man was to meet a “quality” girl, he would have to sleep with her fast, otherwise she would move on. Once he sleeps with her, then he can go for commitment,

Let’s say you meet the hottest, educated, nicest, submissive girl and you want a full blown relationship with her. You are going to wait to sleep with her? No way you are, You are going to sleep with her as fast as possible so she doesn’t go elsewhere.
A quality girl is one you would have no shame presenting to your parents and see her as perfect fit to be the mother of your children. She's in no hurry to have sex with anyone because she'd have to first get to know him and fall in love with him. She's intelligent and self aware enough as to not even talk with fvckboys, losers, fake alphas etc and the thought of having sex with any of them would be as foreign as you thinking of marrying an obese, unkempt 60yrs old woman. :p
 

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In all my experience with women its the trying to get them that 9/10 always turns them off
That's why I never followed them, except a few, and those I didn't follow went crazy "But why doesn't she want me?"

Also, if a man starts to empathize with how a woman thinks, he becomes successful with them, but it really sucks to think like them.

But I understand your reasoning, but I prefer to think like a man, enjoy life, my successes. You are not successful in life if you think like them. You become insecure
 

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That statement doesn’t pass the logic test.

If she is making him wait to ensure he is invested in a proper relationship, that itself makes the man beta. Suppose it was rich / tall / handsome / famous guy, that if she didn’t put out, she would lose him. Would she make him wait? I don’t think so.
As I said not everything is black and white, and if we are talking about women, their logic is based on their emotions and feelings
 

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A female co worker explained why women dont smash the "good guy" quickly but let the " bum guy" smash quickly. She said that if the "bum guy" leaves you it does not hurt as much as if the "good guy" leaves. She said you actually are emotionally connected to the "good guy". Interesting thought. There maybe a little bit of truth in this.

I just think that they are not sexually aroused by the good guy. They are however attracted. Big difference between arousal and attraction.
I'm guessing this is just female logic and justification.

Realistically it's just some guys are just better than getting between her legs than others.

It's not good guy Vs bad boy. It's guy that knows how to escalate Vs guy who doesn't. Simple as that.

Women just need make up stories to justify their emotions/actions which I'm guessing the girl in work was doing, to justify why she gets pumped and dumped and doesn't get the feels for the "good guys" that are clueless to escalate.


The TRUTH in what she said is how dangerous the good guys who know how to escalate are to women. You know the guy she immediately puts out for , out of pure "chemistry/connection " haha, the one she falls in love immediately with and would do anything for.

She's properly been pumped and dumped by a couple of these , hence the story/lie she's telling herself, "I make good guys wait"

Thes soon as she comes across anothers "good guy" that knows how to escalate, he will be better between her legs in a flash.
 
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I'm guessing this is just female logic and justification.

Realistically it's just some guys are just better than getting between her legs than others.

It's not good guy Vs bad boy. It's guy that knows how to escalate Vs guy who doesn't. Simple as that.

Women just need make up stories to justify their emotions/actions which I'm guessing the girl in work was doing, to justify why she gets pumped and dumped and doesn't get the feels for the "good guys" that are clueless to escalate.


The TRUTH in what she said is how dangerous the good guys who know how to escalate are to women. You know the guy she immediately puts out for , out of pure "chemistry/connection " haha, the one she falls in love immediately with and would do anything for.

She's properly been pumped and dumped by a couple of these , hence the story/lie she's telling herself, "I make good guys wait"

Thes soon as she comes across anothers "good guy" that knows how to escalate, he will be better between her legs in a flash.
I agree. You need to escalate. I will add that she just did not think I was hot enough. If she thought I was sexy she would have let me smash. I was just attractive enough for her to be seen going on dates with me.

I was not ugly to her but I was not hot. If you ugly and you escalate then with some girls they will still reject.
 

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No it’s not the same. We are getting confused between sex and commitment,

First, quality has to be defined, There is no such thing as a quality girl.
Second, even if a man was to meet a “quality” girl, he would have to sleep with her fast, otherwise she would move on. Once he sleeps with her, then he can go for commitment,

Let’s say you meet the hottest, educated, nicest, submissive girl and you want a full blown relationship with her. You are going to wait to sleep with her? No way you are, You are going to sleep with her as fast as possible so she doesn’t go elsewhere.
Im not sure I follow. Can you explain again bro? What do you mean by no quality girls? What do you mean by the last paragraph? It sounds interesting.
 

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A quality girl is one you would have no shame presenting to your parents and see her as perfect fit to be the mother of your children. She's in no hurry to have sex with anyone because she'd have to first get to know him and fall in love with him. She's intelligent and self aware enough as to not even talk with fvckboys, losers, fake alphas etc and the thought of having sex with any of them would be as foreign as you thinking of marrying an obese, unkempt 60yrs old woman. :p
Yeh this is how I also define as a quality girl. They are rare af. Very rare. Even over seas they are rare.

Maybe @BadBoy89 means that they are so rare that its silly to act like they exist.
 

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A female co worker explained why women dont smash the "good guy" quickly but let the " bum guy" smash quickly. She said that if the "bum guy" leaves you it does not hurt as much as if the "good guy" leaves. She said you actually are emotionally connected to the "good guy". Interesting thought. There maybe a little bit of truth in this.

I just think that they are not sexually aroused by the good guy. They are however attracted. Big difference between arousal and attraction.
I think they may very well be sexually aroused by the good guy. Or they might not. It just depends on the guy. Looks, and what kind of edge he has, her preferences, etc.

But I agree they will smash the bum guy quickly because they don't value him as much, or care so much what they think of her. I've always said if a girl makes you wait, you should take it as a compliment, because she cares about you enough to be on her best behavior. But my experience has been that if a girl is into me as boyfriend material, she can't wait to get sexual, so I haven't really encountered this myself.
 

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I think they may very well be sexually aroused by the good guy. Or they might not. It just depends on the guy. Looks, and what kind of edge he has, her preferences, etc.

But I agree they will smash the bum guy quickly because they don't value him as much, or care so much what they think of her. I've always said if a girl makes you wait, you should take it as a compliment, because she cares about you enough to be on her best behavior. But my experience has been that if a girl is into me as boyfriend material, she can't wait to get sexual, so I haven't really encountered this myself.
I agree Zekko. I will say if she really likes you and wants to be on her best behavior then she will atleast kiss you by the 3rd date. If she does not even kiss you ( a real kiss) then she does not like you.
 

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I asked an ex gf one day " why do you have sex so quickly when you like a guy. Why dont you wait? It will make him respect you more".

Her answer was she has sex quickly because she wants to fast track the bonding process ( im paraphrasing). She believes that having sex will make him bond to her. I explained to her that it only works that way for women. Men dont neccesarily bond via sex.

Women are definately the less wise sex. They are cognitively just as intelligent its just they are lacking in wisdom.
 

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Women are definately the less wise sex. They are cognitively just as intelligent its just they are lacking in wisdom.
Well, I don't know. You can see from the manosphere that there are a lot of guys who are completely clueless when it comes to the opposite sex. I don't mean to rip on anyone, because I've done some pretty clueless things myself. Although hopefully I've learned from them.

I thought the reason a girl might have sex quickly (aside from desire), is that guys are known for dropping a girl if she doesn't put out. So maybe she doesn't want to take the chance on him walking if she wants to keep him around.
 

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I thought the reason a girl might have sex quickly (aside from desire), is that guys are known for dropping a girl if she doesn't put out. So maybe she doesn't want to take the chance on him walking if she wants to keep him around.
Yes you might be right. Little do they know that if a man really likes her then he will wait. Assuming that she is worth it.
 

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Dang I never thought of it like that lol. Somehow is feels hurtful when the girl delays sex when you are quality.
It's "hurtful" because it makes you feel like a sucker. You are the guy who spends time and money taking her out and playing the waiting game while some bum skips the line and doesn't have to deal with any of that. It's like buying a ticket and waiting an hour in line to see a concert only to find out that a bunch of other got in for free through a whole in the fence.
 

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It's "hurtful" because it makes you feel like a sucker. You are the guy who spends time and money taking her out and playing the waiting game while some bum skips the line and doesn't have to deal with any of that. It's like buying a ticket and waiting an hour in line to see a concert only to find out that a bunch of other got in for free through a whole in the fence.
Lol yup
 

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The guy has to be the right kind of loser though. Otherwise she won’t be attracted.

Not loser in general.
Usually this is the case of likes attract likes...loser women likes loser guys. An attractive woman who comes from a Quality stable family whose got a good social circle and has a good spiritual life gets snagged fast in their early 20s. But really these so 'called losers' got the jerk dynamic and dominance that turns her on in most cases mostly in disastrous short term relationships which leads to frustration. There's a lack of Balanced, stable -level headed masculine Men out there.
 
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A quality girl is one you would have no shame presenting to your parents and see her as perfect fit to be the mother of your children. She's in no hurry to have sex with anyone because she'd have to first get to know him and fall in love with him. She's intelligent and self aware enough as to not even talk with fvckboys, losers, fake alphas etc and the thought of having sex with any of them would be as foreign as you thinking of marrying an obese, unkempt 60yrs old woman. :p
This describes a good woman from the good old days. Sorry but those are rare these days.
 

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It's "hurtful" because it makes you feel like a sucker. You are the guy who spends time and money taking her out and playing the waiting game while some bum skips the line and doesn't have to deal with any of that. It's like buying a ticket and waiting an hour in line to see a concert only to find out that a bunch of other got in for free through a whole in the fence.
Eventually they break up and she claims that all men are trash. No honey, your selection in men is trash. The “good guys” never got a chance for whatever reason. Classic retarded female logic.
 

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