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Ricky said:
I don't know. Nothing surprises me anymore.

First off as one of my friends puts it, in a way all guys look the same. I mean ****, I always wondered what girls see in us dudes. If I was a girl I'd be a lesbian.

There is no guy on the planet better looking than a girl. So girls are already stepping down in the looks deal. Can't quite understand why all girls don't just muff dive. The only reason I can see is that they can't handle each others *****y personalities!

That's easy for us to say since we are men and are naturally attracted to women.
 

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I work the front desk of a hotel and I witness alot of couples checking in and out. With a few rare exceptions, most couples are in the same "looks range". I saw a few hot chicks check in today and I when I looked at their b/f or husband etc; they were attractive looking as well. You never, never see a guy who is a "5" with a smoking hot chick. Sure, there was this guy today who kind of had an ugly face who was with a solid 8, but he was also 6'2" and jacked.
yet another observations supporting the looks matter theory; ugly guy-hot women couples are rare. Theyre the exceptions, not the rule. These women got something abnormal going on or theyre using the guy for $$$.

So how much evidence needs to mount untill all the people who say "you can get any hot woman with a good personality even if youre ugly" will shut up?

I mean, theres just TOO MUCH evidence that supports the looks matter theory. Too much to where I almost cant stand how right the theory is :p
 

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God_of_getting_layed said:
yet another observations supporting the looks matter theory; ugly guy-hot women couples are rare. Theyre the exceptions, not the rule. These women got something abnormal going on or theyre using the guy for $$$.

So how much evidence needs to mount untill all the people who say "you can get any hot woman with a good personality even if youre ugly" will shut up?

I mean, theres just TOO MUCH evidence that supports the looks matter theory. Too much to where I almost cant stand how right the theory is :p
Based on all of my observations on how people look.

I think people aged 18-35 (we all become uglier after 35) can fall into 1 of 4 different categories when it comes to looks. People usually date within their category.

[B]Category 1: People who are ugly. [/B] These people are noticably ugly and when these people are seen, many people will do a double take at their ugly face. **Very few men and women fall into this category, maybe 1 in 25 or so.

Category 2: Average looking. These people are not ugly, but are NOT attractive looking either. These people are kind of just there. Alot of people fall into this category, maybe 11 in 25 or close to half.

Category 3: Attractive looking. These people have an attractive looking appearance, but they are NOT strikingly handsome or pretty. Alot of people fall into this category as well, maybe 12 in 25 or close to half

Category 4: Extremely attractive looking. These are people who are strikingly attractive and get noticed everywhere they go. They have perfect bodies and perfectly balanced features. E.g. an extremely handsome man will even get noticed by other men (not in a sexual way of course). Like Category 1 people, those in this group are rare, maybe 1 in 25 or so.

So here you have it, everyone falls into these 4 categories, but please note Categories 2 and 3 are subjective according to a persons taste. Most people are more comfortable dating within "their category" but people will date one up or down in their category (E.g. You will see Category 1's with Category 2's etc.) However, you WILL RARELY see two couples who are two categories away or more from each other. E.g, You won't see many Category 2 men dating Category 4 women.

I think this theory is genius. I like to see myself as a Category 3, but some might put me in Category 2. I know I am not a 1 or a 4, hence I know I CANNOT get a Category 4 woman.
 

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
No, it got started because the OP is a committed looks-matterist and is surprised when evidence comes into play that supports contrary belief systems.
well, thats one theory...

but it doesnt explain why others are jumping in and trying to figure it out too. Gee, sounds like people trying to explain what would be could be called a spectacle is a better fitting theory here as to why this thread got started :yes:

I mean, if such a thing was soo common place, a doubt a looks matterist would be wasting his time posting "whats up with this" if he lived in a world where almost all hotties are with dudes as ugly as this. Such a thread would be questioning the obvious, and would get no attention.

I got an idea, lets post a thread asking what men see in the victoria secret girls, and playboy playmates and what the deal is with men wanting these women. and lets see how many "well, becuase theyre good looking stupid!" replies we would get. Dont you think we would see such "its obvious stupid!" replies in this thread if the OP's observation were as common place and obvious as the hypothetical thread I suggested? :yes: but were not, were getting nothing but head scratching. Its clear, the OP's observation is far from common place or obvious!!!

we would see no one scratching their heads trying to explain such a post becuase anytime something is obvious or commonplace, people dont scratch their heads trying to figure it out, but were seeing plenty of head scratching in this thread.


Caps lock aside, I have already told you numerous times that I am not about to take a camera into the street and start snapping pictures of couples who are not equal in looks. ESPECIALLY when you have already proven yourself to be a tremendously closed-minded individual, ESPECIALLY in regards to the Looks Debate.
who said thats the only way you would need to prove it? there are ways to prove such a claim without needing a camera or to go out in the street.

But assuming you could provide me with a set of pictures where all the hot women in them are with a fugly dude :crackup: you would still have to explain why many many many many other observations contridict such a set of photos:

-Mahon's observations that most hotties that check into his hotel are rarely with ugly dudes.

-the Xanga blog observation.

-the female message board posting naked pics of dudes and displaying their shallowness braught to you by ricorico.

-why women at clubs pretty much never even dance with guys who arent cute to them let alone kiss or sleep with them

-why only ugly dudes go overseas to get a bride, (why not hot guys with no game?)

-All the hot women Ive known that said theyll never date a guy unless hes tall, has a 6 pack etc. and stand by it.

-its common for women in dating personal ads to state the guy must be good looking and must see a picture of him 1st.

-All the women Ive slept with either said they thought I was hot or gave some hint indicating they thought I was hot. gee, shouldnt some of the women I lay think Im ugly, but like my personality anyway?

-and so many more that I just cant list, or Ill get tired out....

yeah, so in addition to just showing me the photos that you claim you COULD get, youll have to explain away all these observations as well with a "looks DONT matter theory". I mean, hey, were trying to be scientific right, so we gotta get a theory that can explain ALL EVIDENCE, not just some, ALL!!!

...or is being scientific a little too hard for you deus? ;)
 

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mahon83050 said:
Based on all of my observations on how people look.

I think people aged 18-35 (we all become uglier after 35) can fall into 1 of 4 different categories when it comes to looks. People usually date within their category.

[B]Category 1: People who are ugly. [/B] These people are noticably ugly and when these people are seen, many people will do a double take at their ugly face. **Very few men and women fall into this category, maybe 1 in 25 or so.

Category 2: Average looking. These people are not ugly, but are NOT attractive looking either. These people are kind of just there. Alot of people fall into this category, maybe 11 in 25 or close to half.

Category 3: Attractive looking. These people have an attractive looking appearance, but they are NOT strikingly handsome or pretty. Alot of people fall into this category as well, maybe 12 in 25 or close to half

Category 4: Extremely attractive looking. These are people who are strikingly attractive and get noticed everywhere they go. They have perfect bodies and perfectly balanced features. E.g. an extremely handsome man will even get noticed by other men (not in a sexual way of course). Like Category 1 people, those in this group are rare, maybe 1 in 25 or so.

So here you have it, everyone falls into these 4 categories, but please note Categories 2 and 3 are subjective according to a persons taste. Most people are more comfortable dating within "their category" but people will date one up or down in their category (E.g. You will see Category 1's with Category 2's etc.) However, you WILL RARELY see two couples who are two categories away or more from each other. E.g, You won't see many Category 2 men dating Category 4 women.

I think this theory is genius. I like to see myself as a Category 3, but some might put me in Category 2. I know I am not a 1 or a 4, hence I know I CANNOT get a Category 4 woman.
an excellent theory here :)
 

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why are people even arguing with a guy who's confessed to being a "WAY BELOW AVERAGE AFC" who cant even make eye contact with hot women.

This guy Deux doesn't even play the same game as us players do.

He's scared shytless of girls, what he says does not even matter.

No more looks discussions need to be had with him, he comes off as a pompous glorified nerd who thinks he's being witty, when in reality he's sounding like a frustrated loser.
 

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:rofl: @ pasty white. He's not pasty white. If you're not black, all of a sudden you're white? LMAO.
 

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
You're totally insane, and I'd love to know what happened to you in order to let this looks-matter stuff consume your life.
1. It hasnt consumed my life. I have a great social life and a great sex life.

2. so this is all you could rebut in my last post directed at you?

What happened to the scientific explanation that can explain all these evidence I put forward using a "looks dont matter" kind of theory?

what happened to proving how this thread is just about a common place observation and not something unsual that qualifies as a "spectacle"? I guess you knew damn well no body scratches their heads in a thread about something so obvious and common place, therefore meaning the OP's observation wasnt obvious and commonplace like youd like to beleive.
 

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
Firstly, God_of_getting_layed argues with me because his life revolves around looks-matter threads. Check his post history. Second, I CAN make eye contact with women, but I choose not to for a variety of reasons.



WBAFCs are different from DJs? Mind-boggling.



Not scared, more like overly cautious. And this has no effect on the validity of my experiences and observations.



You get this from being on the forum for two days? Please. I can't be pompous AND a WBAFC. You're contradicting yourself. And if I thought I was being witty, I'd be much more successful with women, now wouldn't I? ;)

There should be an autoban implemented for these endless looks threads, I swear. This crap is all that comes from them.

all i gotta do is read all your posts, doesnt matter how long im on here for

the fact is u have NOTHING to add to this place and you are a ridiclous CHUMP whos a tremendous waste of time being on a site called "sosuave"
 

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god of getting laid, see what i posted above :)
I just cant help my self, I just love rubbing it in on how wrong he is for everyone to see.

I have no intention on getting him to admit that Im right. Although there is strong evidence that says he knows Im right based on the way he often doesnt bother to rebut valid points of mine. this is evidence that he knows hes wrong, therefore admiting that Im right in his own mind.

So even though Deus isnt publically admiting that looks matter, theres evidence that indicate that he privately beleives this, but chooses to deny it to make himself feel better.

hes got all the tell tale signs of someone who is stubbornly in denial.
 

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Deux, how bout u apply what u learn on this site and go get some confidence, then go have sex with 10 girls and tell us all how many of those girls look you right in the eye while u fcuk them and say "baby you are so hot!!" (those who lay different chicks know what im talking about)

without the experience, u cant back up anything that you say
 

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
You can't "rub in" an opposing viewpoint. A stance on looks is an opinion.
oh, so weither or not looks matters is a simple opinion? :crackup:

okay, its a fact, KEY WORD ::FACT:: that looks will either matter or not. We just need to examine evidence to conlude which is the case in this world that we live in. Clearly, its not opinion, its a factual based discussion. We are discussing a factual characteristic of the world we live in; wiether looks matter to women or not. And taking a scientific approach suggests that we do live in a world where looks matters. :yes:

But if you disagree with this scientific conclusion, feel free to post a summary of all this great evidence you have and make sure your explanation covers ALL THE EVIDENCE AVAILABLE (which includes evidence myself and others have provided). REMEMBER, ALL AVAILABLE EVIDENCE SON!




You forget that I don't consider your "points" valid. And the main reason I don't really bother to argue with you anymore is that you're completely unwilling to listen to anybody but yourself, and any schmoe that may come along to agree with you.
it doesnt matter weither you publicly state my points as "valid" or "invalid", what we are clearly seeing is a predicable patter in which points of mine you are rebutting, and which ones you are not. I dont think its a coincidence that all the points you are NOT rebutting are the ones that are almost impossible to explain away. This indicates that you know in your own mind you cant explain them away, which is the motivation for why you choose to not rebut them. If you know you cant explain them away, this means you know your argument is flawed :yes:


Now why would I do that, God_of? How does telling myself that looks don't matter make myself feel better if we've already been over that I'm above-average looking? Seriously, I'm curious about this one.
1. Your not above average looking, Ive seen your pics. Youre average looking at best. but before you say "but some women say Im hot", just remember, even average looking and some ugly guys get weird abnormal women who personally find them attractive. one woman's ugly guy is another's hot guy etc.

2. You dont like to beleive in looks matter theory becuase you dont want to beleive there are somethings about you that matter to women that you may not be able to control or change. Many people feel very uncomfortable about this thought. This is the #1 reason looks dont matterists are in denial. And you know damn well youre far from qualifying as a "hot guy", therefore admitting that looks matters is admiting that your potential is strongly limited, somthing youre terrified of believing in. Youre terrified of the idea that your success may actually be limited, and this is why you feel comfortable going in denial about looks mattering. All your BS about "sky is the limit" talk is evidence youre desperate to beleive every man's success is limitless, which will require looks to NOT MATTER.

Youre desperate to beleive your success is limitless, and desperate to deny that looks matter which equate to success actually being limited.
 

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
Like so many of your looks-matter predecessors, you miss my point entirely when I say that looks don't matter. I have experienced exactly what you described numerous times. Does this mean that looks suddenly matter? No. This merely shows that women can admire good looks. Despite what women say in the sack, looks are NOT a requirement to bed women. Can they help? Sure. Can they hurt? Of course.

And the only experiences that I refer to are the ones that I've personally had, read as, the ones that I can back up. I've made it abundantly clear that I'm a WBAFC, so in the interest of full disclosure there's no confusion about where I'm coming from.
Deus, you have no credibilty for many reasons, you being a WBAFC is just one of many.

other reasons include using fabricated made up polls as "Evidence". And taking examples out of context in an attempt to decieve people. ie using Heidi Klum and Seal and then saying that she's representative of all hot women. Such a tactic is called lying. oh, lets not forget how you claim to be "scientific", yet are using a very unscientific tactic of ONLY using evidence that favors your argument; you have yet to explain how such a tactic really is scientific as you claim it is.

yeah, your credibility doesnt look good at all deus.
 

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okay guys, I think it´s time for the truth!

Deus and God_of_getting_layed are argue bots programmed by the sosuave mods to make this forum more entertaining for everyone.
 

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Hey you guys, I didn't mean to make this about looks vs. personality at all. However, the reason I posted it is because I was somewhat surprised at the difference in their looks, of course.

I live in California - someone mentioned this. And anyway, I have seen some of the "rich guys" with supermodel girlfriends, etc. Actually, one of my neighbors (the street parallel to mine), the guy owns a $400 million-dollar company, and his wife is a well-known model for some magazine. I forgot her name, but she is really hot. Anyway, the guy looks kind of like George Clooney but with white hair, and he is also very built like a football player.

My neighbor across the street is a famous musician, no joke. If I said their name, you would know them. Well anyway, the guy's wife is not hot. He is rich, but he does not have a hot wife. But he is not hot either (at least, in my non-gay opinion). When I met them, I first met the wife, and I saw the grammy awards and things on their walls, etc. I thought she was just a really obsessed fan, LOL. But the two of them are similar in level of attractiveness.

Anyway, yeah, beauty is subjective, but I started this thread because generally couples do look somewhat similar physically, attraction speaking. These two look nothing like each other, and recently I've noticed that other people have also noticed these two as a very odd couple. I've found this also to be true in the girls I've been with myself. People have said that we look like each other. It's a strange phenomenon, but usually, the guy and girl are similar in level of attractiveness. Usually.

And Bling, he is pasty-white indeed. I'm not black either. I guess I'm a little more tan that most and tan well, but that guy is definitely too white. He needs a tan. The reason I mentioned "nerd" is because the only logical reason that he doesn't have a tan is that he's probably behind the computer and inside 24/7.

Overall, I think this is good inspiration to just go and talk to a girl no matter what, because you never know what her preference is.
 

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
Can I ask you what you do for a living at age 23 to live in the same neighborhood as celebrities and owners of $400 million companies?
Well I live with my parents. :eek: I'll be moving out when I graduate from college next Fall. I do pay for everything myself though, except for rent (which is crazy here).
 

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
Ah, I got ya.

In regards to this turning into yet another looks debate, I think it's because some argue that it's impossible to acquire a mate that's better looking than yourself. In reality, I believe that it's more likely that couples will seek out mates that are in the same "league" as themselves mostly for the comfort and confidence level.

Exactly!!

I think we all know what category (based on my other thread) or what league we are in based on how we see ourselves or what category of women have been attracted to us in the past.

Like I have said, except for maybe one time, I have NEVER had an EXTREMELY attractive woman checking me out or hitting on me. Most the women I hook up with and get attention from are the average or above average (7-8's) chicks. This is fine by me, if I wanted to get with the 9's and 10's I would have to get some cosmetic surgery to make my nose smaller and pin my ears back:rolleyes: ]
 

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
In reality, I believe that it's more likely that couples will seek out mates that are in the same "league" as themselves mostly for the comfort and confidence level.
I totally agree with that statement, very well put. Damn, that is something. :up:
 
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