Chick wonders why men aren't "wifing us up"

[Gamisch]

What makes that any different from tricking out a woman? I do not know about you but I am not attracted to a woman who makes more than me. It's emasculating and it turns me off hard. I cannot help it. I am a man. My achievement in life is being the best I can be. If a woman is making more, it infuriates me. Not only that, when a woman instantly knows this, she cannot help seeing me below her either. Sure I can trick her out and get money from her or other desperate older rich women. I could live that lifestyle. But any guy I see doing that has to be a loser if he needs a woman to make his way. It just does not sit well with me.

And do not get me wrong, I had the same thought, too. Why not take advantage of the increased salary of women? Trick them out of their money while you sell hope. Is that not what salesman or any business person does anyway? I think the point of this is that I do not want to make women into a business or work. I got better things to do.

Look at all these threads about women that love to travel (which ironically is also "most").

Now imagine earning half of what she does. It wont take long before she'll replace your azz for someone "on her level".

 

[HaleyBaron]

I see too many women that travel around or like to travel. They want to pretend that they are living lavishly like celebrities or wives with rich husbands, but it's all an illusion. In the end, she learns the reality and she goes into deeper depression.

 

[Dr.Suave]

Why won't men wife you up? Here are a few possibilities:

-You offer very little other than your beauty.
-You can't cook/clean.
-You are a liability(financially & mentally).
-You are a depreciating asset.
-You love social media too much.
-You had too much cahk.
-As soon as you aren't happy you will be off to the next.
-You have very little understanding of men.

To provide value, you must first possess value. My 70 yo mom laughs at young women because they have nothing to offer a man.

Kudos to your mom for being red pill aware

 

[soulforge]

It's best to marry or get into an LTR with a female who earns more than you. These days, it shouldn't be that hard. That's really the safest way to have a family.

If she earns more than you, it ain't going to work... Woman cannot provide for men, it goes against their biological nature.

 

[SW15]

If she earns more than you, it ain't going to work... Woman cannot provide for men, it goes against their biological nature.

In a Growing Share of U.S. Marriages, Husbands and Wives Earn About the Same

Among married couples in the U.S., women’s financial contributions have grown steadily over the last half century. Even when earnings are similar, husbands spend more time on paid work and leisure, while wives devote more time to caregiving and housework.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

1) cost-benefits ratio

2)comtempt for aggressive/promiscuous women

3)rejecting the purchase for full price over a second hand asset compared to countless free riders

4)lower libido due to lower average testosterone, emasculating social settings, porn

5)social exhaustion due to frequent unplesant forced social interactions every day

 

[soulforge]

In a Growing Share of U.S. Marriages, Husbands and Wives Earn About the Same

Among married couples in the U.S., women’s financial contributions have grown steadily over the last half century. Even when earnings are similar, husbands spend more time on paid work and leisure, while wives devote more time to caregiving and housework.

www.pewresearch.org

These are unhappy marriages in most cases and the clock is ticking.

Woman cannot provide for men indefinitely.. it goes against her biological nature.

Can she do it for a while? Yes... but without a doubt she will lose attraction as you are putting her in the leadership role, by depending on her financially.

It's just a matter of time till she leaves.

 

[kavi]

When women pay Prime Ministers and Presidents for running the country they are also providing for those men.

If a woman wants a real man she needs to pay.

No woman has enough personal value to get an Alpha wiithout providing or paying. It is what it is.

Leadership needs to be payed for. Women will figure this out soon enough.

It is absolutely not true that earning more or paying makes one a leader or has frame. Men have already lost the external and internal battle of they feel they should earn more or pay for women. Earning more is not possible as any gender pay gap will be closed due to politics. Paying wont work then you are clearly a trick or sugar daddy then that is all it is.

Infact, men should take easier less mentally emotionally taxing jobs freeing up energy to lead the relationship. This will cause men to earn less but develop those intra and interpersonal skills to allow men to have more power in relationships.

Look at all these threads about women that love to travel (which ironically is also "most").

Now imagine earning half of what she does. It wont take long before she'll replace your azz for someone "on her level".

Men who believe this have already lost. Many relationships end for many reasons. Travel is fun but a woman can cheat anytime on anyone and rich sugar daddy men are no exception to being cheated on.

The frame is that you earn what you earn and that you are happy with you career and attempting to earn more could result in you being depressed and unhappy with your career and then cannot be the leader she wants. She can choose whether she wants a wealthier guy or you. Money doesnt determine masculine value obviously as women can work and earn these days. If woman can and are doing it cannot define masculinity simple.

 

[BadBoy89]

The girl says:

“Why aren’t they wifing us early?”

1) Laws are against men
2) You are not a Virgin

‘So at 20 I should look for a 40 year old?”

1) Yes

 

[RickTheToad]

If she earns more than you, it ain't going to work... Woman cannot provide for men, it goes against their biological nature.

Truly depends my friend.

 

[RickTheToad]

What are you disagreeing with? The fact you live on a portion of your salary takes nothing away from the point you earn more money than your partner and thus, still hold frame. Woman being the breadwinner isn’t the way to go.

Over time, you will see that most females will, in fact, out earn most dudes. Could it change, perhaps, but females are in fact catching up and surpassing many dudes as they are focused more on work than having a family.

 

[RickTheToad]

What makes that any different from tricking out a woman? I do not know about you but I am not attracted to a woman who makes more than me. It's emasculating and it turns me off hard. I cannot help it. I am a man. My achievement in life is being the best I can be. If a woman is making more, it infuriates me. Not only that, when a woman instantly knows this, she cannot help seeing me below her either. Sure I can trick her out and get money from her or other desperate older rich women. I could live that lifestyle. But any guy I see doing that has to be a loser if he needs a woman to make his way. It just does not sit well with me.

And do not get me wrong, I had the same thought, too. Why not take advantage of the increased salary of women? Trick them out of their money while you sell hope. Is that not what salesman or any business person does anyway? I think the point of this is that I do not want to make women into a business or work. I got better things to do.

I've never had a female take care of me financially. However, I do know several dudes which do. My situation is different as I want my rental income separate from my salary income to ensure no steeling of my assets from the state. I'm a minimalist by default, so I live on about a third of my salary, rest goes to investments.

 

[RickTheToad]

If she knows, you aren’t “penalized” like the men she out-earns. In her mind, you still have more assets than her. You have a passing grade.

Logically, we understand what you are saying. It is financially prudent. Just know that for most of the guys out there without trusts and assets, they are better off being in the conventional breadwinner position. When the woman is the breadwinner, it is never ending shvt tests. She just will not respect the guy.

Perhaps, and I get what you are saying. However, I still believe, without real estate, one's own business or investments, dudes in general, will have a hard time competing for females as their salaries are rising significantly.

 

[Robert28]

Perhaps, and I get what you are saying. However, I still believe, without real estate, one's own business or investments, dudes in general, will have a hard time competing for females as their salaries are rising significantly.

I have every one of those things you describe but I still have a hard time competing for women. I keep what I earn, have, close to the vest. If a woman wants to think “oh he’s average” I’m perfectly fine with that. Some women have picked up on that I’m well to do but others had no clue, I never reveal it either way. I let it slip awhile back when I was talking about taxes this year to a woman and I said “yeah I know, I had to pay out $42,000 this year” and she just said “I can’t fathom even making that much money much less paying that much in taxes”. I quickly shut up once I realize I let it slip.

 

[Macadellic]

If a woman wants me to take her seriously than

Step 1. Be a virgin
99.99% of women automatically disqualify themselves. She made her choices and ruined herself.

No need for further steps to take into account.

 

[threeforfree]

Over time, you will see that most females will, in fact, out earn most dudes. Could it change, perhaps, but females are in fact catching up and surpassing many dudes as they are focused more on work than having a family.

Additionally, men (that aren't of minority status) are being passed up for promotions in favor of companies trying to demonstrate that they are trying to "fix" the non-existent pay gap.

 

[RickTheToad]

Additionally, men (that aren't of minority status) are being passed up for promotions in favor of companies trying to demonstrate that they are trying to "fix" the non-existent pay gap.

True. So the answer is entrepreneurship. Slowly, but steadily, build one's own business.

 

[RickTheToad]

I have every one of those things you describe but I still have a hard time competing for women. I keep what I earn, have, close to the vest. If a woman wants to think “oh he’s average” I’m perfectly fine with that. Some women have picked up on that I’m well to do but others had no clue, I never reveal it either way. I let it slip awhile back when I was talking about taxes this year to a woman and I said “yeah I know, I had to pay out $42,000 this year” and she just said “I can’t fathom even making that much money much less paying that much in taxes”. I quickly shut up once I realize I let it slip.

You need some real estate to offset those taxes dude. Depreciation is your friend..

 

[EyeBRollin]

True. So the answer is entrepreneurship. Slowly, but steadily, build one's own business.

Everyone cannot be an entrepreneur, nor will they be a successful one.

 

[Solomon]

I'm seeing a huge increase online in Poly relationships, 10 years ago you would hardly see it but now you will see IMO 5%-10% of profiles with a woman looking for a 3rd granted 90% of the women are ugly or average but you also see an increase with these television shows. Gen Z (and millennials) is more sexually "Fluid" and willing to share their women smh, Gen Z also isn't gung ho about chasing women i.e. Gen Z&Millienals don't go the nightclub which now is a dying industry

People may wonder what does this have to do with being "wifed" up. The point is the mating game has changed and now is mostly online or social circles. On top of that most women in America are not wifey material. Gen Z doesn't care about marriage and Millennials are getting married later add the fact that Millenials and Gen Z make less money than previous generations where they can't afford housing or rent and well this is why women ain't getting wifed up