Chick wonders why men aren't "wifing us up"

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Is she a 304? She's a young one. She does seem like a 304 in that YouTube short.

There's a chance that she's a very typical woman for this era, if not more of a 304 than average.
 

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It's simple. A cost v. benefit analysis indicates that for a majority of men the cost is too high for what is received in consideration.

The expectation for men, backed by law, is much higher than the expectations of women. Back 40 years ago we needed laws to protect women who were expected to surrender their best years to this interest of raising children... where a man, who maintains his value into his 60s, can not just abandon his wife when her value diminishes.

Marriage is an outdated concept and it has been a slow roll to what we have now since the 1970s.
 

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Once again, she is asking others to be accountable for herself.
 

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Like @RangerMIke said, it was a lot different years ago. Before it was a stigma to be divorced and you shamed your family. People were expected to work out their differences and figure out how to make it work. Now we have no-fault divorce, yet the one who earns the most ends ups paying the other. Funny when you think of this concept. If you get married and it doesn’t work out, why the fuc do you have to financially pay the other? We’re all independent individuals until we get a marriage certificate, after that you get penalized if it doesn’t work out. And for the most part, men loose 99.999% of the time. Women today also don’t act like they did back in the 50’s like your mom or grandma.

The latest divorce that brings joy to my heart is the soccer player that has his millions in his mom’s name. Brilliant!! Insert the Dave Chapelle sound bite, “gotta b!tch”. His wife, who has millions herself has to pay him now.
 

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It's best to marry or get into an LTR with a female who earns more than you. These days, it shouldn't be that hard. That's really the safest way to have a family.
 

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Men aren’t wifing up these broads because they aren’t wives. Simple. Man finds a wife. She has to be the part already…


It's best to marry or get into an LTR with a female who earns more than you.
Disagree.

While it is technically less “risky” from a financial standpoint for her to be the breadwinner, women do not respect men that they out-earn. Those relationships are doomed before they even start.
 

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Men aren’t wifing up these broads because they aren’t wives. Simple. Man finds a wife. She has to be the part already…




Disagree.

While it is technically less “risky” from a financial standpoint for her to be the breadwinner, women do not respect men that they out-earn.
Perhaps, but I find it beneficial if the dude earns less than the female incase of alimony or any separation issue. For instance, I earn around $125k a year and my partner earns around 129k per year. My rental props bring in another 300k per year. Technically speaking, I only earn 125k per year, and my rentals, while I control them, are in a trust with a trustee managing the legal and corporate side of things. So, if I were to be married, my income is lower than hers, thus there would be no threat to my assets nor my income and the threat to my financial being or alimony would be very little to nil. Same as what Hakimi did.


Need to protect yourself these days...
 

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Perhaps, but I find it beneficial if the dude earns less than the female incase of alimony or any separation issue. For instance, I earn around $125k a year and my partner earns around 129k per year.
I am separating your stated advice from your situation, for our fellow men out there. You actually out-earn your partner by a substantial amount, just not “on paper.” Is your lady aware of this? I’d venture to guess she is…. Therefore, you aren’t operating in the same frame as a guy who’s woman out-earns him.

Telling the men out there they should find a woman who is the breadwinner is not sound advice. Women do not respect men they perceive to have a financial advantage over. It just is what it is.
 

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It's best to marry or get into an LTR with a female who earns more than you. These days, it shouldn't be that hard. That's really the safest way to have a family.
From strictly protecting yourself from getting financially divorce-raped sure. But otherwise this is a complete non-starter for an LTR. If a woman earns more than you she sees you as beneath her. She will constantly try to control the frame of the relationship, making it toxic and untenable. So while I understand why you would give this advice, it isn't a good idea in the least.
 

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Why won't men wife you up? Here are a few possibilities:

-You offer very little other than your beauty.
-You can't cook/clean.
-You are a liability(financially & mentally).
-You are a depreciating asset.
-You love social media too much.
-You had too much cahk.
-As soon as you aren't happy you will be off to the next.
-You have very little understanding of men.

To provide value, you must first possess value. My 70 yo mom laughs at young women because they have nothing to offer a man.
 

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While it is technically less “risky” from a financial standpoint for her to be the breadwinner, women do not respect men that they out-earn. Those relationships are doomed before they even start.
Telling the men out there they should find a woman who is the breadwinner is not sound advice. Women do not respect men they perceive to have a financial advantage over. It just is what it is.
The point you're making here is accurate and important.

From strictly protecting yourself from getting financially divorce-raped sure. But otherwise this is a complete non-starter for an LTR. If a woman earns more than you she sees you as beneath her. She will constantly try to control the frame of the relationship, making it toxic and untenable. So while I understand why you would give this advice, it isn't a good idea in the least.
Iron Rule of Tomassi #1 is that Frame is Everything. A man who isn't earning more than a long term girlfriend or a wife has no frame. While a relationship like this might last for some time in some cases, it is not good for a healthy, long term relationship.

Once again, she is asking others to be accountable for herself.
Look at that woman again and let's see if she offers anything to a man besides sex and youthful good looks, which will expire at some point.
 

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Maybe if she didn’t overlook 90% of the male population she might have more success. But we all know she means “dang that Chad! Why won’t the son of a ***** commit to ME?!”
 

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I am separating your stated advice from your situation, for our fellow men out there. You actually out-earn your partner by a substantial amount, just not “on paper.” Is your lady aware of this? I’d venture to guess she is…. Therefore, you aren’t operating in the same frame as a guy who’s woman out-earns him.

Telling the men out there they should find a woman who is the breadwinner is not sound advice. Women do not respect men they perceive to have a financial advantage over. It just is what it is.
Respectfully, I disagree. Yes, she knows, she also knows it's separate and I only live on a portion of my income. However, anyone can do what I did. Buy a duplex, live in one, rent the other, move out, rent that unit out, buy another one, so on and so one. It takes time, took me over a decade, but it's doable with the work. Start small and grow. Point being, that is a safe option. Actually, in terms of salary, I've always been out earned by my female partners.
 

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From strictly protecting yourself from getting financially divorce-raped sure. But otherwise this is a complete non-starter for an LTR. If a woman earns more than you she sees you as beneath her. She will constantly try to control the frame of the relationship, making it toxic and untenable. So while I understand why you would give this advice, it isn't a good idea in the least.
Never had this experience. As long as you earn in the same realm, it shouldn't be a big deal.
 

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Respectfully, I disagree. Yes, she knows, she also knows it's separate and I only live on a portion of my income.
If she knows, you aren’t “penalized” like the men she out-earns. In her mind, you still have more assets than her. You have a passing grade.

Logically, we understand what you are saying. It is financially prudent. Just know that for most of the guys out there without trusts and assets, they are better off being in the conventional breadwinner position. When the woman is the breadwinner, it is never ending shvt tests. She just will not respect the guy.
 

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Reminds me of a story about a member from the Moroccan Maffia(mocro maffia) where they went after one guy his mal-earned money. They finally found a large amount of cash in his mother's wheelchair...

Perhaps, but I find it beneficial if the dude earns less than the female incase of alimony or any separation issue. For instance, I earn around $125k a year and my partner earns around 129k per year. My rental props bring in another 300k per year. Technically speaking, I only earn 125k per year, and my rentals, while I control them, are in a trust with a trustee managing the legal and corporate side of things. So, if I were to be married, my income is lower than hers, thus there would be no threat to my assets nor my income and the threat to my financial being or alimony would be very little to nil. Same as what Hakimi did.


Need to protect yourself these days...
One of the more positive aspects of all these women complaining is that MAYBE they'll push each other to actually be more of a tradwife. Or at least give it back to the next generations of women.

Men seem to have agreed with the current market. Reluctantly, but stil we agreed with everything they pushed down our throats, and gave up on the idea of the strong familia corner stone. Better bachelor is my " favorite " content creator when it comes to this , even though dude is clearly blackpilled. Recently he also posted a video about women feeling alienated on the workfloor,because no man is gonna risk his career by getting some SA charges. The juice ain't worth the squeeze.

Imagine what's it like to be a woman. You get to ride the CC, get to share the same dudes with tons of women. All fun and games right? The socalled "average dudes" (which contains tons of dudes who are actually more than average) accepted their invisibility , but the consequence is that a lot of women also became invisible on the dating market. I personally know at least 4 decent men that fit this description; they have money,looks, charisma yet they don't even bother with women anymore. The major difference is a hb7 will feel like an hb3 and it only wil become less, whereas a man with a similar SMV still has many years to increase his SMV.

The power of a simple hug isn't the same for both genders. A man will learn to live without it, but women absolutely can't. The 6 ,2 financially stable man with a somewhat nerdy personality suddenly doesn't just becomes interesting, he also becomes unattainable for a lotta women.

Recently I've been dating some women that simply weren't worth the effort they demand from a man. Its sad and funny at the same time.

Funny how life has his/her ways to balance things out.
 
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It's best to marry or get into an LTR with a female who earns more than you. These days, it shouldn't be that hard. That's really the safest way to have a family.
What makes that any different from tricking out a woman? I do not know about you but I am not attracted to a woman who makes more than me. It's emasculating and it turns me off hard. I cannot help it. I am a man. My achievement in life is being the best I can be. If a woman is making more, it infuriates me. Not only that, when a woman instantly knows this, she cannot help seeing me below her either. Sure I can trick her out and get money from her or other desperate older rich women. I could live that lifestyle. But any guy I see doing that has to be a loser if he needs a woman to make his way. It just does not sit well with me.

And do not get me wrong, I had the same thought, too. Why not take advantage of the increased salary of women? Trick them out of their money while you sell hope. Is that not what salesman or any business person does anyway? I think the point of this is that I do not want to make women into a business or work. I got better things to do.
 

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Respectfully, I disagree. Yes, she knows, she also knows it's separate and I only live on a portion of my income. However, anyone can do what I did. Buy a duplex, live in one, rent the other, move out, rent that unit out, buy another one, so on and so one. It takes time, took me over a decade, but it's doable with the work. Start small and grow. Point being, that is a safe option. Actually, in terms of salary, I've always been out earned by my female partners.
What are you disagreeing with? The fact you live on a portion of your salary takes nothing away from the point you earn more money than your partner and thus, still hold frame. Woman being the breadwinner isn’t the way to go.
 
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