Cheating on your Girlfriend - Tactics

[steviecruiser]

hey steviecruiser,


This has nothing to do with cheating... But how do I get money and material things out of girls I'm dating?

A real question I like it. I actually make enough money now where this isn't my focus but I have been on the other side of that coin like you so I can definitely lend you advice.

First of all you have to find the right girl. Not all girls will do this and our dire economic times doesn't help it. But if you do find a girl that is willing to do this (the fact that she offers to pay or gives money when you two are out is a great sign) then all you have to do is make this girl fall head over heels for you.

When a girl is in love (or thinks she is in love) she will do just about anything for the object of her affection. Basically use a line like this once you have her hooked

"This sucks.. I really want to take you out but I have no $$$"

Her: Ohhhh don't worry I'll pay for it lets just go, I love you

Soon it becomes the norm and you got yourself a sugar momma

Just be sure to tell her how much you love her (even if its bs which it probably is) and how 1 day you are going to give her everything

LOL little does she know she's probably getting dumped down the road for a better model

 

[steviecruiser]

You live in Manhattan and you think you need to "commit" to a girlfriend for sex?? Good God, man. You have a lot to learn.



Most guys around here know how to get a steady supply of a$$ without wasting time and money on this - especially in NYC.

By the way, have fun deluding yourself that your GF only gives it up for committed boyfriends. I'm sure she's a real angel when you're not looking.

I'm not going to attack you for playing the game the way you want to play it, but you sound pretty insecure in the way you brag and then attack other people. You also sound naive with the way you describe "some women" and their scruples about commitment, which is a load of BS. Take a look around these threads and you'll realize that any woman who claims she only has sex in a committed relationship is full of it and can still be seduced like the slvt that she is. That also means she can be seduced by another guy when you have your back turned, fella.

Now, if your goal is to have a quote-unquote girlfriend so you can have some dependable arm candy when you go out, and to play around in the meantime, I can't fault that, especially if your relationship is basically sex for nice dinners and gifts (and you can afford it). Otherwise, I still maintain my opinion that you'll save time, money, and energy by not wasting it on a girlfriend. But it's your life, have fun.

Honestly do you people not know how to read or just read and infer what you want to? I'll go with the latter

I'm going to say this1 more time and once more only as this comical aspect of this thread is starting to wane and I want to get back to its subject.

I don't need to commit to a gf for sex. Put your $*# glasses on and read my post above it... I have been single for long stretches and have been comfortable having my F partners. There are however some women that feel more comfortable (excessively I might add) being in a commitment b4 they get intimate. Your philosophy is to pass or "Next" these women but me... because I love beautiful women and fornication with them so much will not deprive myself of a chance. So I will let them believe what they want in order to get it. MOST OF THE TIME WHEN THIS HAPPENS AND I'M SATISFIED I THEN NEXT THE GIRL AND GO ONTO MY NEXT CONQUEST.

I actually like my current girlfriend which is why I'm with her. As far as her cheating on me... while anything is possible I really highly doubt it. She adjusts her schedule to see me and will drop just about anything she is doing to be with me if thats what I command. And frankly your comment about it being wrong to buy my gf dinner is just stupid. It is my girlfriend not a broad I am picking up. I successfully have girls buy me drinks when I pick them up.

Im done with this. You can feel free to PM me for advice too because you spend way too much time on the computer and not enough of it in the real world. Any other attack you make on me is 1 based on pure envy and jealousy so paradoxically that's an ego boost for me :rockon:

 

[jonwon]

Karma?

No such thing!

In actual fact sleeping with other women, will result in you keeping your current GF interested, because it will prevent you from slipping into AFC mode and treating her like a royal princess.

OP - nice one keep it up.

Some excuses:

'going out with the lads''
'Staying at my mates house'
'I fancy a me night tonight - ring her early around 6 pm so she does not ring you at 9 when your hooking up'

Never show the new girl/s where you live - Never give out your home number. Carry a new mobile around, one you keep secret from your current GF (make sure she will never find the bill) - if you dont have a spare phone, make sure to delete every text message before you meet your chick (dont believe a girl wont go through your phone at the first opportunity). Make sure you wear protection 100% always, you dont want to catch something and have to tell your girl - make sure your condom stash is someplace she will never find it (in a drawer when your going raw on your girl is not a good idea, especcially if that box is going down).

Dont get too invested into the fcuk women your seeing, keep them on a long leash, dont see them more then once every week or ideally once every two weeks, dont give them a sense of commitment - Be honest with a woman if you are man enough to do it - nothing wrong with saying "i have a GF but i really find you attractive, what do you think about that?". Girls will sleep with you even when you tell them your not interested in a relationship, there is ZERO reason to lie - you'd be very suprised actually.

Cheating keeps you sharp - it keeps you in focus - it confirms you still 'have it' - It assures you when your woman steps out-of-line that she is replacable - hence it makes sure you 'stand up' to her shi* tests, you actually smash through them.

You also cant be manipulated by sex.

Her
"if you dont wash up your not getting any"

You
"Thats what you think"

The only time I don't condon cheating is if you marry her - whats the point - but then again - What do I care.

The times i've been faithful are some of the worst relationships i've had, the times when i've cheated the GF as been so into me, its unreal - almost obsessive -

Have fun with it.

 

[steviecruiser]

Sounds like you're a little sensitive, a little green, and a little immature. I don't care what you do with your life, or your girlfriend. Have fun, man!

Well since I'm apparently immature I'll be sure to have fun with my girlfriend and YOUR MOM

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear All,
Poor old Stevie,all he wants is a few tips on spinning plates,what does he get?moralising,chest beating,point scoring,so are there any real Don Juans on this site?judging by the constructive responses not many,lets change our name,what about reading with Mother,you just play the game according to the rules your Mum taught you,you can't act naturally without feeling guilty,that is the root of the problem,female dominated education in the formative years...The Jesuits realised it and so did Hitler.So Edger and Sam Spade instead of setting the stage for a pointless dual with each other tell Stevie how in the past you have successfully juggled three birds at once or go back to darning your socks.

 

[steviecruiser]

Karma?

No such thing!

In actual fact sleeping with other women, will result in you keeping your current GF interested, because it will prevent you from slipping into AFC mode and treating her like a royal princess.

OP - nice one keep it up.

Some excuses:

'going out with the lads''
'Staying at my mates house'
'I fancy a me night tonight - ring her early around 6 pm so she does not ring you at 9 when your hooking up'

Never show the new girl/s where you live - Never give out your home number. Carry a new mobile around, one you keep secret from your current GF (make sure she will never find the bill) - if you dont have a spare phone, make sure to delete every text message before you meet your chick (dont believe a girl wont go through your phone at the first opportunity). Make sure you wear protection 100% always, you dont want to catch something and have to tell your girl - make sure your condom stash is someplace she will never find it (in a drawer when your going raw on your girl is not a good idea, especcially if that box is going down).

Dont get too invested into the fcuk women your seeing, keep them on a long leash, dont see them more then once every week or ideally once every two weeks, dont give them a sense of commitment - Be honest with a woman if you are man enough to do it - nothing wrong with saying "i have a GF but i really find you attractive, what do you think about that?". Girls will sleep with you even when you tell them your not interested in a relationship, there is ZERO reason to lie - you'd be very suprised actually.

Cheating keeps you sharp - it keeps you in focus - it confirms you still 'have it' - It assures you when your woman steps out-of-line that she is replacable - hence it makes sure you 'stand up' to her shi* tests, you actually smash through them.

You also cant be manipulated by sex.

Her
"if you dont wash up your not getting any"

You
"Thats what you think"

The only time I don't condon cheating is if you marry her - whats the point - but then again - What do I care.

The times i've been faithful are some of the worst relationships i've had, the times when i've cheated the GF as been so into me, its unreal - almost obsessive -

Have fun with it.

Thank you! See you know the truth of things by experience. Its a shame too many decorated posters here can't say the same. Can you share some tactics you've used to successfully cheat? So far we got

1 Spacing Girls apart
2 Avoid Exposure on Social media sites (facebook myspace)
3 Never let her see your cell
4 Use work and hobbies to give you the time to play

I love it!

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear Jonwon,
My apologies to you Sir,your post arrives like the Cavalry just in the nicotine....what a great contribution the honour of the brothers is saved,things are moving so quickly on this post,our contributions crossed.

 

[Colossus]

I have a buddy who had THREE (!) LTR's for over a year, simultaneously.

I asked him once how he managed it that long. His reply: "I lied my as$ off. I'm not proud of it, but hey, how many guys can say they've done this?"
He had plenty of close calls, though. It's crazy time management.

Not that I condone it, but people do it. Girls do it too.

 

[steviecruiser]

Lying is the easy part. The hard part is preventing the truth from coming out. A few good tips have already been provided. Here's a few more.

1. Put your cell in "silent mode" whenever you're around these women and keep it in your pants. You WILL gets calls from one while you're with another eventually. The more it rings the more curious they get about who's calling you all of the time. This alone creates a temptation to snoop into your phone.

2. Create as much contrast as possible between your plates. If one likes hip hop and nightclubs, try to find another that doesn't like either. If one was born and raised locally, look for another new to the area. The last thing you want are a couple of women drawn from the same pool with similar interests and lifestyles.

3. Never let family or an AFC-ish friend get into the mix. Women love to mine these people for info when they suspect something is up with you... and they usually succeed. The last thing you need is your mother or sister calling you up because one of your girls is upset with you, or having a friend unkowingly tell a girl you were at one place when you already told her you were at another.

4. Keep an overnight bag in your car at all times. You never know if you might have to go see one girl after another without stopping at home. In this bag should be at least one change of clean clothes, toothbrush, toothpaste, a large bottle of water (for rinsing after brushing), mouthwash, a small towel, deoterant, handy wipes and some body wash to rub down with. No cologne. Many women will get suspicious if you seem to wear cologne for no apparent reason. Always make sure your junk is clean.

5. Let every woman know you have guy friends that you do guy only things with once in a while. Just make sure it's something women would not be involved with. A good one is to tell them you play a home game of poker on Saturday nights with just the guys once in a while, where there will be a lot of cigar smoke and profanity. You don't want to tell them you're going on a boys night out drinking at bars, where women and cheating become real concerns.

6. If you're going to lie to get away from a couple of girls on the same day so you can go see another, use the same lie with all of them. It simplifies things and prevents slip ups. You don't want to tell one you're working late tonight, one you're not feeling well tonight and another that you're playing poker with the guys tonight. When you give them all the same excuse, you won't need to remember who's who when they call the next day and you only need to have one story ready when each of them ask later on how your night went.

7. This one you may not agree with, but to me it's important. Don't cheat on the really sweet ones. They're growing more rare these days and the world needs more of them, not less. Some things you just leave alone.

Fvcking awseome! Thanks for the contribution. In regards to #7 I have to honestly say though that the sweet girls are the easiest ones to cheat on because they are so trustworthy. I know they are rare today and I aint into hurting them. Can we amend that to state "Never let the sweet ones find out at all costs"

My attitude is that all men cheat. As long as you do it the right way and responsibly you are fine.

 

[kingwilliam]

The only real way to cheat is the one night stand.....

That being said, you need to make sure you are not doing your thing in the same town. The fact that you have a girlfriend will actually help you with the demographic youre after. Slutty, insecure *****es who actually enjoy the fact that they are hooking up with someone who is "attached".

Just about every guy I know cheats on his girlfriend or even his wife. This is what men do.

 

[guru1000]

Guru "supposedly" is getting laid by the hottest women the planet..

Actually, I am married now.

BTW, a veteran has no need to lie. He keeps several non exclusive relationships and when the best quality candidate steps up to the plate he unloads his harem.

The old cliche "Women would rather share a winner, then be straddled to a faithful loser". If you find yourself needing to lie to keep a non exclusive rapport, the problem is in your value (what you bring to the table).

 

[edger]

Why do you suppose this is?

Because before Rollo T. was married, he said that he pulled regularly. And Guru has also made the same claim. So there's nothing to suppose.

And even on the off chance that one of those guys went through a six-month dry spell, they probably wouldn't complain.

If they complain or not, who g*ves a f*ck? I don't know why some of you guys have a problem with people who complain. You're human, right? People have every right to complain. Yeah, of course complaining's not going to fix the situation, but it's healthy nonetheless. Everybody needs to vent. It doesn't bother me when people complain. I could care in the least if someone complains about women. However, if the person complains, yet doesn't try to fix his/her situation, then that's a different story.

 

[ketostix]

I have a buddy who had THREE (!) LTR's for over a year, simultaneously.

I asked him once how he managed it that long. His reply: "I lied my as$ off. I'm not proud of it, but hey, how many guys can say they've done this?"
He had plenty of close calls, though. It's crazy time management.

Not that I condone it, but people do it. Girls do it too.

Every guy I've ever known who has had multiple women simultaneously lies. Women may be be interested in the same guy but they are not willing to admit or acknowledge they are sharing a guy. I'm not saying it's wrong to lie, these women deserve to be lied to usually.

 

[STR8UP]

I'm not going to say that women *LIKE" to be lied to, but they certainly prefer a pretty lie to an ugly truth.

And as far as infidelity goes, women will huff and puff but at the end of the day even if she finds out about it if you have enough value and you hold your ground, she will relent, and love you more than ever. Deep down women understand that male infidelity isn't that serious compared to female infidelity. Their feminist brainwashing just makes them cry about it more.

 

[jonwon]

On the subject of lying.

1: When you meet a new girl, you don’t have to tell her at all your starting a relationship with her - you’re not lying because you never told her you was committed to her in the first place.

2: You can be honest with random women you meet - "hey I have a GF, but I really like you and I'd like to get to know you better" - Some women won't go there but you will be surprised how many will - for example there are women who just love to date married men, for example. Personally I’ve had sex with women whilst telling them this in a club - "Hey we have a connection, but I’m not really interested in a relationship right now, but I think me and you can have some fun regardless, what do you think about that?". - Works a charm.

Are you lying to your current GF? Are you married? No?! If you’re not married to the girl, in reality it does not matter if you cheat because you’re not fully committed to her.

And STR8UP is right, women and men see cheating differently - A women could infact like you more, if she found out your a catch, a stud or have options beside her - she will infact try harder to please you.

It could go one of two ways, depending on how much she is into you.

If she is just with you, to fill in a gap - she will probably dump you at the first sign of cheating - but if she is so into you, she sacrifices nights out with mates, cooks for you, buys you shi* and as your picture by the side of her bed or in her purse - There is a very high chance she will try 'harder' to please you if she suspects your looking else where - Don’t be surprised if your girl starts to diet, or buys you things out of the blue, or leaves little tokens around your house, like lady things - A pair of shoes here, some nail varnish - Prop like things she leaves incase the competition comes over and see's the other women’s shi* in your house - She may leave a dress, she will buy a cra* dress, pretend to wear it, when you object she will leave that dress at your house for a 'special occasion', when in reality she is marking her territory.

It’s not that you have cheated that a women gets upset about, its more or less that she could lose you to another women. Where as a man's pride is hurt or damaged a women is thinking more on the lines of - 'whats this other women got, she better not take him off me' - In essence they are more concerned with the other women, then they are about you. The manipulated Man talks about this in detail.

I've also seen this first hand.

Also the hardest thing about seeing different women is remembering what you did with said women.

For example a good few times, I lost a few plates by talking about things we did in the past, but in was actually talking about things I’d done with another girl - Funny afterwards, but not great when your plate does not return your calls, because you've just been describing how you fuc*ed her in the garden, when infact it was the other girl, you'd been throwing around the bushes.

Also women want to be exclusive - I know of none that would have been happy knowing I was fuc*ing other women - Even if they suspected, it's best to keep it that way - don't make it known, don't advertise it and do not brag about it - Keep it secret, if she suspects but cannot find out because your smooth, all the better, she will try harder to 'get you', but if you rub her face in it, she will be out the door and probably be very upset, depending on how she is into you.

Be careful of her friends too - She will make you meet her friends - Part of this reason is because if you’re out on a night out and you do something, there is always a chance one of her friends could be around to see you. So limit your interactions with her friends if they are local, you don’t want to be bumping into them on a night out, or at least find out the places they go to and avoid those places -

I picked up a girl, whilst seeing another girl a few months back - it turned out the girl I was seeing was out with her mates and they were in the next bar from us - 1 minute away - we left the current bar and 2 minutes later she walked into the bar. That was a lucky escape, what can I say I must lead a charmed life.

If your girl suspects and she says "have you cheated on me". What you don't do is chump out and get defensive, instead you say this "Yeh I had a couple of blonde Swedish girls around the other night, I'm thinking about asking you to join us" - give her a big smile.

 

[jonwon]

Thought of one more today: Hair.

Women shed this sh*t off like Hanzel & Gretel wandering through the forrest. I was driving a blonde home tonight, rolled down my window a little and got whoppered in the face with a long black hair that obviously wasn't mine.

Seriously, man. You've got to get all CSI if you don't want to get busted.

Aint that the truth.

You can explain away hair in a car, but when it's in your bed thats another matter or in your house.

I've had such escapes myself - getting the vac out and vacuming the whole house to find a hair underneath the wine bottle you've just laid down on the floor for your girl, then trying to get that hair whilst pretending your stretching. My girl is blonde, I had a brunnette over one evening, she shed shi* loads - it was all over the bathroom walls, in places you'd never even think of, inside cupboards, the shi* gets everywhere.

 

[steviecruiser]

On the subject of lying.

1: When you meet a new girl, you don’t have to tell her at all your starting a relationship with her - you’re not lying because you never told her you was committed to her in the first place.

2: You can be honest with random women you meet - "hey I have a GF, but I really like you and I'd like to get to know you better" - Some women won't go there but you will be surprised how many will - for example there are women who just love to date married men, for example. Personally I’ve had sex with women whilst telling them this in a club - "Hey we have a connection, but I’m not really interested in a relationship right now, but I think me and you can have some fun regardless, what do you think about that?". - Works a charm.

Are you lying to your current GF? Are you married? No?! If you’re not married to the girl, in reality it does not matter if you cheat because you’re not fully committed to her.

And STR8UP is right, women and men see cheating differently - A women could infact like you more, if she found out your a catch, a stud or have options beside her - she will infact try harder to please you.

It could go one of two ways, depending on how much she is into you.

If she is just with you, to fill in a gap - she will probably dump you at the first sign of cheating - but if she is so into you, she sacrifices nights out with mates, cooks for you, buys you shi* and as your picture by the side of her bed or in her purse - There is a very high chance she will try 'harder' to please you if she suspects your looking else where - Don’t be surprised if your girl starts to diet, or buys you things out of the blue, or leaves little tokens around your house, like lady things - A pair of shoes here, some nail varnish - Prop like things she leaves incase the competition comes over and see's the other women’s shi* in your house - She may leave a dress, she will buy a cra* dress, pretend to wear it, when you object she will leave that dress at your house for a 'special occasion', when in reality she is marking her territory.

It’s not that you have cheated that a women gets upset about, its more or less that she could lose you to another women. Where as a man's pride is hurt or damaged a women is thinking more on the lines of - 'whats this other women got, she better not take him off me' - In essence they are more concerned with the other women, then they are about you. The manipulated Man talks about this in detail.

I've also seen this first hand.

Also the hardest thing about seeing different women is remembering what you did with said women.

For example a good few times, I lost a few plates by talking about things we did in the past, but in was actually talking about things I’d done with another girl - Funny afterwards, but not great when your plate does not return your calls, because you've just been describing how you fuc*ed her in the garden, when infact it was the other girl, you'd been throwing around the bushes.

Also women want to be exclusive - I know of none that would have been happy knowing I was fuc*ing other women - Even if they suspected, it's best to keep it that way - don't make it known, don't advertise it and do not brag about it - Keep it secret, if she suspects but cannot find out because your smooth, all the better, she will try harder to 'get you', but if you rub her face in it, she will be out the door and probably be very upset, depending on how she is into you.

Be careful of her friends too - She will make you meet her friends - Part of this reason is because if you’re out on a night out and you do something, there is always a chance one of her friends could be around to see you. So limit your interactions with her friends if they are local, you don’t want to be bumping into them on a night out, or at least find out the places they go to and avoid those places -

I picked up a girl, whilst seeing another girl a few months back - it turned out the girl I was seeing was out with her mates and they were in the next bar from us - 1 minute away - we left the current bar and 2 minutes later she walked into the bar. That was a lucky escape, what can I say I must lead a charmed life.

If your girl suspects and she says "have you cheated on me". What you don't do is chump out and get defensive, instead you say this "Yeh I had a couple of blonde Swedish girls around the other night, I'm thinking about asking you to join us" - give her a big smile.

So right about the friends.the more people notice you the more at risk you are. Joking about the cheating I have to agree is a good move it kind of lowers her offense on it.

You are right that a lot of women will be intrigued if they think you are in demand. There are also ones that wont especially if they been hurt in the past

 

[steviecruiser]

Thought of one more today: Hair.

Women shed this sh*t off like Hanzel & Gretel wandering through the forrest. I was driving a blonde home tonight, rolled down my window a little and got whoppered in the face with a long black hair that obviously wasn't mine.

Seriously, man. You've got to get all CSI if you don't want to get busted.

This is the truth! Whats the best way to eliminate this evidence? Do you check after each time? I feel like you will always miss 1 and it can be found!

 

[steviecruiser]

Maybe its good to just make sure certain areas dont have hair

Like your bed or the couch???? What do you fellow seducers think!

 

[jonwon]

Maybe its good to just make sure certain areas dont have hair

Like your bed or the couch???? What do you fellow seducers think!

There is only one real way.

Sleep with them at there own homes, get them to drive.

Even when you clean that stuff up, there is always at the back of your mind that your girl is going to take a whizz and discover a hair sat by her feet on the bathroom floor, or cuddle up to you in bed and go "ohh i've got one of my hairs in my mouth", she pulls it out and its the wrong hair colour - it does not leave even when you clean the house top to bottom, so be aware of it - ideally dont take them home, but dont let it stop you if you have no other place to take her - after all - I've done it and my current girl has never found out.

Also think of excuses "hey who's is the blonde hair" - oh thats my cousins GF< they came over the other night - did I forget to tell you? Yeh we had a few drinks, talked about e.t.c - blah blah blah - talk for 5 minutes make it sound genuine, you'd be suprised what shi* a women will swollow.