Change's Bulking Progress

[mrRuckus]

I don't know if eating all that whey by itself is helping much. Isn't it just rushing through your system in like 45 minutes and leaving your muscles high and dry until your next meal?

I usually drink a whey drink along with some tuna and a sandwich or something if i want to up my protein for that meal and i'm not looking for FAST protein like right after a workout.

Is my thinking wrong?

 

[change]

Im not sure, but Im generally really busy so whey is what i have time for in between class.

Is this that much of a problem?

 

[EFFORT]

If thats all you can eat between class then it would be better to have the whey over nothing. Maybe add a teaspoon of olive oil to your shakes to slow down the digestion.

Also bring a lot of nuts with you to snack out, nuts are really calorie dense.

And when you can eat a solid protein meal make sure to pig out.

 

[BLUEox117]

Originally posted by change
Im not sure, but Im generally really busy so whey is what i have time for in between class.

Is this that much of a problem?

Better than nothing is indeed a good motto. You can try milk with your whey to get amazing protein amount and still a full meal. Grabbing a few boiled eggs is a good idea, with water u can eat them nearly as fast as a shake.

 

[change]

Thanks for the advice. Good tip on the milk. A liter of milk with 4 scoops of whey is 120g of protein!!

Today I didnt lift since I did the past 2 days.

I kept track of my eating though.

Breakfast:
2 scoops protein with fruit juice and a granola bar

Post breakfast
Lots of free sushi!

next meal:
2 chicken breasts with buns and vegetables

Next meal:
Pasta with pesto and chicken

Next meal:
2 cups milk with 2 scoops whey

Next meal:
2 cups milk with 2 scoops whey.

Plus I just got my multivitamins in the mail, so i took one of those today as well.

 

[change]

Oh and as a side effect to all this lifting Ive been having to sleep so much more. Ive been taking naps wherever I can squeeze one in. Yesterday I slept like 11 hours.

 

[Warboss Alex]

Sorry mate, you won't gain much at all with that diet. I find it hard to see how you can function on it, let alone gain muscle..

Add some eggs for breakfast (4-6 minimum), take a jar or two (preferably three) of peanut butter to school with you and pound this down between classes with your whey, get some red meat in (you're holding yourself back by not eating beef) and eat as much as possible with your solid food meals.

If you persevere, you can eat pretty quickly. When I was at college I'd take in a tub of lean ground beef and a tub of oats or rice and a big spoon, I could eat like a lb of beef and about that much of carbs in ten minutes (with plenty of water and fast chewing), if you want this badly enough and be consistent it'll get easier and just be second nature eventually .. dedication is key.

And yeah, people gave me funny looks but I was a helluva lot bigger than they were.

 

[change]

Damn, a tub of ground beef?

All right. I really want this so Im gonna try and up my diet like crazy today.

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by change
Damn, a tub of ground beef?

All right. I really want this so Im gonna try and up my diet like crazy today.

post your revised diet, and tell us your thoughts/comments after you try it for a week !

 

[EFFORT]

Alex is right man, that diet is not gonna gain u anything, i'm glad your hear asking for help, you'll be making progress soon, you just need to really understand that eating is HUGE, the battle with the plate is bigger than the one with the weights.

Eating gets old really quick but its just something u have to do and you'll get use to it in time. Revise that diet and post it up here, and it better have AT LEAST 1lb of beef in it!!!

 

[change]

I dont think Its gonna be possible for me to eat a pound of beef a day since I dont have a fridge or any way to cook food on my own. Would creatine work if I cant eat as much beef?

I'm eating huge today btw. I'll post up my diet later

 

[CHOCOLATE(COLA)]

Originally posted by change
I dont think Its gonna be possible for me to eat a pound of beef a day since I dont have a fridge or any way to cook food on my own. Would creatine work if I cant eat as much beef?

I'm eating huge today btw. I'll post up my diet later

Creatine is in beef, you dont need to eat beef to take the supplement.

 

[Warboss Alex]

Would creatine work if I cant eat as much beef?

Creatine will do nothing for you if you're not already pushing the limits on the food front.

Can you not buy deli beef or cold cuts? Wait, if you can buy creatine then surely you can buy some cold cuts. There, problem solved.

And my beef doesn't last long enough to go in the fridge.. home from the shops, into the pan with olive oil and my spices, thrown in a tub with my condiments of choice and shaken a bit to spread the flavour around. Then swallowed down at various intervals throughout the day.

 

[change]

Weight: 172


All right, today I think I ate a lot more like I was supposed to

Breakfast:
4 egg omelette with ham and veggies in it.

Next meal:
Corned beef sandwich on wheat bread, about 1/3 pound of beef

Pre workout meal:
2 potatoes and a peanut butter and jelly sandwich

Immediately after:
three scoops of whey with water

Next meal:
Pasta with chicken (about 1 1/2 chicken breast)

Next meal:
Another Corned beef sandwich, 1/3 pound of beef

before bed (what im drinking now):
3 scoops whey with skim milk

Supplements: Glutamine, Multi Vitamin, Vitamin C

Today I did back, but my lower back was still really sore from rugby so I focussed on doing chinups today instead of deadlifts.

I read that one excersize a day thread and decided to try it today. I did 7 sets of 5 reps for chinups. I did them on this machine thing that acts as kind of a lever so you can add weight to the other side to help you out. I started out with about 70 pounds of weight helping me lift myself but the lowest weight I got down to was 45. This was extremely intense. The first time in a while that I had to sit down between cause I was a little dizzy.

I can definitely feel it a lot in my back right now. Its probably 4 hours since I worked out and my back still feels a little "pumped"

Am I on the right track? Thoughts and comments are greatly appreciated.

 

[RaWBLooD]

Very good stuff, your meals look good, i hope the timing with the pasta and chicken was within an hour of your workout
One exercise a day, you tell us how that works for you !
Your nutrition looks great !!
keep it up.

You can try cottage cheese before bed, Otherwise what you do now will be fine.

 

[EFFORT]

Originally posted by change
I dont think Its gonna be possible for me to eat a pound of beef a day since I dont have a fridge or any way to cook food on my own

Your in college right, do you not have a caf or place that serves food?

What do you live in, i'm assuming a dorm since u said u have no way to cook it so can u buy a george girll?


No grocery store nearby? Many of them usually have some kind of already cooked beef meal.

I'll probably get flamed for this heh but do u have a burger king nearby, u can go there and get some triple whoppers with just ketchup on them.

Just realize it is possible to do it instead of saying why u can't, figure out ways that u can.

 

[change]

Originally posted by EFFORT
Your in college right, do you not have a caf or place that serves food?

What do you live in, i'm assuming a dorm since u said u have no way to cook it so can u buy a george girll?


No grocery store nearby? Many of them usually have some kind of already cooked beef meal.

I'll probably get flamed for this heh but do u have a burger king nearby, u can go there and get some triple whoppers with just ketchup on them.

Just realize it is possible to do it instead of saying why u can't, figure out ways that u can.

I was thinking budget-wise. I dont have a ton of money to spend on food but i think i have the problem solved. I found a grocery store where I can get deli meat pretty cheap.

I think im gonna pass on the triple whopper idea. Im doing my best to put on only lean muscle and eat only what i have to in terms of fat.

Thanks for the reply


BTW: Week 1 end weight= 172

pic - http://www.geocities.com/jonnyhighwire/meweek2.jpg

 

[Warboss Alex]

Nutrition leaves a bit to be desired, comments from me in CAPS

Originally posted by change
Weight: 172

All right, today I think I ate a lot more like I was supposed to

Breakfast:
4 egg omelette with ham and veggies in it.
GOOD

Next meal:
Corned beef sandwich on wheat bread, about 1/3 pound of beef
CORNED BEEF IS ****E, TOO MUCH FAT AND NOT ENOUGH PROTEIN

Pre workout meal:
2 potatoes and a peanut butter and jelly sandwich
WHERE'S THE PROTEIN? I'D GO FOR LOWER GI CARBS BUT IF THIS WORKS FOR YOU FINE

Immediately after:
three scoops of whey with water
NEED SIMPLE CARBS HERE, E.G. DEXTROSE, GATORADE, FRUIT

Next meal:
Pasta with chicken (about 1 1/2 chicken breast)
NOT BAD

Next meal:
Another Corned beef sandwich, 1/3 pound of beef
SEE ABOVE RE CORNED BEEF, CARBS TOO CLOSE TO BED?

before bed (what im drinking now):
3 scoops whey with skim milk
NICE

Supplements: Glutamine, Multi Vitamin, Vitamin C
DITCH THE GLUTAMINE (AND MAYBE VIT C TOO), YOU DON'T NEED IT YET, BUY REAL BEEF

As for Burger King, I think it's a good idea. Growing good amounts lean muscle doesn't mean necessarily eating clean all the time. How often you can make junk food a meal is down to your metabolism, but I can have 2-3 double cheeseburgers and ice cream from McD's a couple of times a week and have no negative effects on bodyfat levels .. it's your job to keep your metabolism stoked, and use carb cutoffs and do cardio as necessary to keep lean.

It's my firm opinion that to build up serious muscle then chicken and tuna won't cut it, you need red meat, whole eggs, plenty of fats, junk food occasionally, you really need to pump the calories. Since you're looking to grow then you've nothing to lose and so much to gain (literally).

Remember, EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. You'll find out how much junk you can have without getting fat, how much cardio you need etc, on this journey for size and strength, and once you've found your particulars that knowledge is for life.

Don't be afraid to eat, and then eat some more. The thing is to monitor constantly so you know when you're overstepping your mark.

 

[change]

Ok thanks for the tips. By real beef do you mean like steak ground beef?

What are the leanest sources for beef as well.

Also what is the leanest beef i can get from a deli?

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by Warboss Alex
How often you can make junk food a meal is down to your metabolism, but I can have 2-3 double cheeseburgers and ice cream from McD's a couple of times a week and have no negative effects on bodyfat levels .

thats nice if u stuff your face with junk, doesn't mean it did not affect your bodyfat levels. ICE CREAM = high gi carbs

you need red meat, whole eggs, plenty of fats, junk food occasionally,

you do NOT need junk food physiologically, if you mentally crave it , thats a different issue.