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I think there is a difference between being successful and being rich. Successful men bust their ass to work towards their goal which in the end should bring them a healthier, richer, and more happy life. In the end they're happier. Not all rich people are happy.

I'm kinda feeling what backbreaker is talking about right now because honestly, i don't really have time for women and i don't need them in my life. I don't have any plates anymore and i'm not seeking plates. Even have some girls try and hit me up but i just don't feel like i'm ready for anything atm unless their literally DTF (i don't really need that either but hey i won't refuse). Everyone and their grandmother is telling me i'm not living a balanced life and i need a woman and all that bullsh1t. I started believing them. If you turn around and take a look at what they've accomplished and what i've accomplished, it'd be miles of difference. I work and hustle. I make it a point to be the best in anything i do and my work ethic has lead me to win a a few competitions in work, school and sports.

Women don't make me happy right now. Reaching my goals will make me happy. The reason why i choose not to chase tail or would put my career first is because, how can i fully enjoy a woman, when i have to worry about working towards a promotion, starting my own company, school, etc. That many things on my plate is already too much.

If i had to use an example it'd be like having s3x but only going about 30% there and stopping. Or eating an amazing meal but instead of enjoying, you have to scarf it down because your in a rush. I want to savor everything and i'm not at that point yet.
 

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backbreaker said:
yuppaz is using a logical fallacy to be lazy. the fallacy being that if someone is to focus hard on their careers for an amount of time than by default they are going to end up being socially awkard or have a miserable social life, thus well i might as well have both so I won't neglect women beucase i don't want to be a non well rounded person

that's hogwash.


I mean, I believe you mean well but this is bull****. this is written by someone who is hypothesizing about what it is to be successful.

first of all, the assumption that women is a necessary part of a man's life is bull****. I can ahve a wellb alanced life and be very much single and have no romantic interests.

When I was going through my period with my business, I mean i worked mya ss off but i also did some things for me. I learned how to play the piano, I took up learning more about historial subjects that I find interesting, I learned how to really cook, I had my mindless pleasures like my gamecube that i had a few games for or watching the sopranos which was big back then or atching law and order when it came on. I even ironed my one half decent outfit i had and took myself to the movies from time to time. I just did not do it with a woman.

see, in the long run, your point of view is actually worse than mine beucase you believe you have to have a woman to be "whole" and i don't. by the time i actually had money, i had developed interests and a life to the point i honestly, did not need a woman to make me happy. I knew ho to make myself happy and knew how to live alone because i had done it.

And beucase i did not waste all my idle time at Starbucks talking to girls, i actually was interesting, i could go to an Italian restaurant and order in fluent fluent beucase i picked up Italian, i could bring a girl over my house and casually play a few tunes on my piano that i had in my living room beucase i spent my time on me.


I don't know why your post pisses me off so much but it does. I supposed because if you just don't want to give up ass, just say look i don't want to give up ass, don't bring some trumped up bull**** to the table about how you don't want to be emotionally unstable, just keep it real.

what i find more ironic than anything, is half the post on this forum are guys asking the same god damn questiont ime and time again.. "how do i go NC i keep thinking about her" or "how do i pretend i don't care" or "how do I stay busy and make her think i am important"... it's like guys would rather learn how to pretend they don't give a **** than actually learn how to not give a ****, and you not give a **** by detaching from the game and working on you and your career and your ambions.

my wife is freaking crazy about me and the driving force behind her attraction to me is her knowing damn well i will walk out the door tomorrow if she stops living up to my exceptions, i don't give a **** about being single.,
Thanks for the props, boys and girls and

Backbreaker -
WHOA buddy - who made you king sh*t around here....? (I mean besides your ginormous ego)

Don't put words into my mouth, I don't know you and you don't know me (at all), half of the sh*t you just wrote I didn't talk about at all & is just way off base. I'm not going to go point by point on your post to discredit anything, it isn't worth my time.

I do want to point out that it's kind of sick if you really think your wife's attraction to you is based on the idea that your ok with leaving in a second. I doubt that's true (on her part) and think that if you really believe that it is a pretty sh*tty way to think. Pretty sad.

You and Neil seem to think the only reason why women like you is because you are big dollar signs to them. I bet in reality it's because thinking that gives you confidence and makes you think you are valuable, which turns them on. For other guys, why not just think you are valuable and have confidence NOW (and still bust ass to have a great life for themselves)...???
Why deprive themselves of great sex lives with awesome women UNTIL a certain THING happens in their lives to give them confidence and self worth...????

I never, ever tell girls what I do for a living, how much I make or what I have and they are still all about it. What does that tell you? BTW I'm not exactly hard up, I just choose to find those that feel me for me like I feel them for them.
 

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yuppaz said:
Thanks for the props, boys and girls and

Backbreaker -
WHOA buddy - who made you king sh*t around here....? (I mean besides your ginormous ego)

Don't put words into my mouth, I don't know you and you don't know me (at all), half of the sh*t you just wrote I didn't talk about at all & is just way off base. I'm not going to go point by point on your post to discredit anything, it isn't worth my time.

I do want to point out that it's kind of sick if you really think your wife's attraction to you is based on the idea that your ok with leaving in a second. I doubt that's true (on her part) and think that if you really believe that it is a pretty sh*tty way to think. Pretty sad.

You and Neil seem to think the only reason why women like you is because you are big dollar signs to them. I bet in reality it's because thinking that gives you confidence and makes you think you are valuable, which turns them on. For other guys, why not just think you are valuable and have confidence NOW (and still bust ass to have a great life for themselves)...???
Why deprive themselves of great sex lives with awesome women UNTIL a certain THING happens in their lives to give them confidence and self worth...????

I never, ever tell girls what I do for a living, how much I make or what I have and they are still all about it. What does that tell you? BTW I'm not exactly hard up, I just choose to find those that feel me for me like I feel them for them.
One thing I learned in my life is never trying to impress a woman. If she doesn't like who I am, so be it.
 

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AAAgent said:
I think there is a difference between being successful and being rich. Successful men bust their ass to work towards their goal which in the end should bring them a healthier, richer, and more happy life. In the end they're happier. Not all rich people are happy.

I'm kinda feeling what backbreaker is talking about right now because honestly, i don't really have time for women and i don't need them in my life. I don't have any plates anymore and i'm not seeking plates. Even have some girls try and hit me up but i just don't feel like i'm ready for anything atm unless their literally DTF (i don't really need that either but hey i won't refuse). Everyone and their grandmother is telling me i'm not living a balanced life and i need a woman and all that bullsh1t. I started believing them. If you turn around and take a look at what they've accomplished and what i've accomplished, it'd be miles of difference. I work and hustle. I make it a point to be the best in anything i do and my work ethic has lead me to win a a few competitions in work, school and sports.

Women don't make me happy right now. Reaching my goals will make me happy. The reason why i choose not to chase tail or would put my career first is because, how can i fully enjoy a woman, when i have to worry about working towards a promotion, starting my own company, school, etc. That many things on my plate is already too much.

If i had to use an example it'd be like having s3x but only going about 30% there and stopping. Or eating an amazing meal but instead of enjoying, you have to scarf it down because your in a rush. I want to savor everything and i'm not at that point yet.
you want to know what is really funny? everyone who tried to tell me to have more of a balanced life and I don't need to work so hard... lol fvcking miserable.

my dad and I had BIG falling out when i basically told him to fvck off.. i mean i told him with all due repsect I respect you as a man and my dad but i am not taking business and career advice from a janitor. lol that did not go over very well lol. his advice to me was to go get a job with the air force, and keep doing my computer business i had started as a "side hustle".. yeah he's on his 4th divorce now. my mom, miserable,47 and single / loney and lives at church. my younger cousin who always told me i needed to kick it more, lol 4 kids.

my family for the most part is a pretty normal American family, just about all of them are middle class, my mother being upper middle class, my dad's brother being very upper middle class as he owns a business that cleans about half the buildings in little rock, only my dad's other brother who has sickle cell and can't really do any manual labor as he has it really bad, is living in what you would call poverty, though he uses that as a crux beucase he's smart as fvck he is just lazy and wants everyone to feel sorry for him.

anyway, there are only 2 of us that you would deem "very successful". myself and my dad's sister's daughter (i.e my older cousin) , who is a lawyer out here in LA. both of us are married, both of us are pretty happy, beucase she's my only relative out here we see each other a lot, she comes to see her cousin my son and stuff.. but both of us growing up were nerdy hard working bookworm type people. shannon (my cousin) wasn't ugly but she wasn't' boy crazy growing up she worked her ass off.

It's like how can i put it. people that tell you to realz and have fun really aren't doing so out of your best interest, they are doing so out of theirs. they don't want to see you come up, at least really really come up. my dad hates the fact i make more than he does so much i can't take my wife around him he hits on her.

what gets me moret han anything, more than lazy people, more than peole who can't stop chasing tail to better themselves is that there are people out there, hell the vast majority of people out there, who seem to believe at a fundamental level that, happiness is somehow guaranteed and you just not have to rock the boat of life to stay happy. that entire line of thinking to me is absurd. don't work too hard beucase you might not be happy. **** it's the other way around. you are guaranteed the pursuit of happiness, not happiness itself. Happiness has to be pursued as long as you are pursing in the correct direction. the harder you pursue the better chance you have of being happy. there is a reason Jefferson chose those exact words. How can you be happy if you never accomplished anything you set your mind to? how can you honestly be happy if you never tried to do anything remotely difficult in life? How can you be happy if you went through your entire life talking yourself out of every goal, dream or ambition that you ever had beucase you were afraid to fail or afraid to give up another part of life?
 
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