Career First, Women Second

[Solomon]

The reality is, a woman is a parasite and a man is a host.

I laughed out loud and stopped reading after that (srs)

WHile OP makes a valid point in getting your $$$$. This toxic mindset is the reason this site has gone to shyt and why I don't even bother posting anymore.

No wonder guys here aren't winning

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

I laughed out loud and stopped reading after that (srs)

WHile OP makes a valid point in getting your $$$$. This toxic mindset is the reason this site has gone to shyt and why I don't even bother posting anymore.

No wonder guys here aren't winning

I'm Winning

But anyway this site has a lot of BS and repetitive stuff. Gets boring real fast. Either someone is bashing women or someone is complaining about a woman. Girls will treat you as well as you treat your own self.

 

[bigneil]

Feminists will chime in that men who don't believe in this fairy tale sleigh ride are just bitter toward women in general. Bullsh*t.

This toxic mindset is the reason this site has gone to shyt.

Either someone is bashing women or someone is complaining about a woman.

These comments were predisapproved.

I rest my case. If you point out the truth, people defend the status quo by insulting you. As if those guys have been more successful.

 

[zekko]

I don't think Bigneil's post was bitter or woman bashing. His choice of words (parasite) may have been questionable, but the point was solid IMO. And it's not a bad analogy.

It's a fundamental PUA concept that the woman should revolve around the man. The man takes takes the woman into his life, not vice versa. The man is the tree and the woman is the squirrel. The man is the island and the woman is in the boat paddling around it. Etc, etc.

 

[bigneil]

Again, I'm not saying that women are bad to be a parasite (and that word was questionable as it implies the host is of a different species). If you understand the concept of normalization, you realize that all women can't be bad. Bad becomes normal in that case. Bad is deviating from the norm to your own detriment (women dating much younger men for example).

Being bitter about the other sex is futile. I've been blessed with countless dates and dozens of girlfriends who I found to be extremely attractive. I seek only to understand them better so I can maintain my relationships longer.

 

[synergy1]

The bottom line: if you are unemployed and somehow pretending that you can play the game and get the girl, you are dreaming. She'll dump you the microsecond she learns about your finances. Work on your career instead and the women will follow.

As much as I want to agree with you, my past experience dictates otherwise. Its actually an irony I still to this day have not yet solved. As a few know, I had a business venture that did not get off the ground and I was looking for work for 5 months or so thereafter. During that time, I was basically a couch surfer when I wasn't looking for work. Now you'd think a guy who does nothing but play sports and look for work would have no chance at getting women - wrong.

Someone else mentioned it, but I think women were more drawn to the potential of what I could do rather than my situation at the time. When conversation came up, I tried to dress up my current situation ( its emberessing to say the least) - so maybe that worked?

Now I have a solid career, and i really don't notice any difference in the level of attraction women give me. The difference between than and now is that when I was unemployed I didn't want a girlfriend since I was more focused on getting a career. In a sense, this is agreeing with the statement I quoted..

 

[bigneil]

When you are between jobs but have skills, you have an advantage because you are well rested and you have more time to work out, get a tan and pursue women. But that's not sustainable. You must have a good story to tell them about how you still have a solid career, and you must start making money again soon or they will not be sticking around.

Then, when you do get a job, it's easy to get a little chubby and satisfied, and years slip away, so it's good to struggle toward your own business or patent to stay lean.

 

[Solomon]

These comments were predisapproved.

I rest my case. If you point out the truth, people defend the status quo by insulting you. As if those guys have been more successful.

Predisapproved by what? by a guy trying to label me a feminsist? OHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOO I'm a femi-nazi cause Big Neil says so!

No offense I've read some of your post the last few months and they give me the lulz

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=193293

It seems you tend to go for the pretty trash that most of the community seems to worship I.E. Strippers

and on the low you sound like a white knight simp, but hey it cost money to keep pretty girls around right?

It makes sense why you view women as "parasites" because your doing the whole sugar daddy game which is becoming very popular again

 

[bigneil]

No wonder these men like Soloman probably can't get laid - they actually stalk other men and talk about their relationships from MONTHS ago. Not to mention they can't read, spell, capitalize, punctuate or proofread properly - but take his word on it: Women first, Career second.

Regarding the link he provided, that's the girl I dated after the stripper. We stayed together. She bought me dinner last week and called yesterday and wants to move away together. Did Solomon think I was bitter about her? And if I were paying for the stripper - as men like Solomon (who have obviously never slept with a hot girl) claim - why wouldn't I still be with her?

But I'm not foolish enough to pretend it doesn't cost money to keep pretty girls around.

It makes sense Solomon doesn't view women as parasites, because he is such a lame host he has nothing to support them with.

 

[Solomon]

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No wonder these men like Soloman probably can't get laid - they actually stalk other men and talk about their relationships from MONTHS ago. Not to mention they can't read, spell, capitalize, punctuate or proofread properly - but take his word on it: Women first, Career second.

Regarding the link he provided, that's the girl I dated after the stripper. We stayed together. She bought me dinner last week and called yesterday and wants to move away together. Did Solomon think I was bitter about her? And if I were paying for the stripper - as men like Solomon (who have obviously never slept with a hot girl) claim - why wouldn't I still be with her?

But I'm not foolish enough to pretend it doesn't cost money to keep pretty girls around.

It makes sense Solomon doesn't view women as parasites, because he is such a lame host he has nothing to support them with.

Big Neil you hurt bro?

You sound like an idiot, but that's what idiots sound like when they lose arguments they start bringing up stuff like "you can't spell and your lame blah blah" strawman arguments.

Go back to my first post old man, I agreed with you. The last couple years I've always told guys improve their finances, hit the gym, put yourself first, have self-respect. I've always preached that. Your mindset of "parasites" is toxic because it shows that the women you have been dealing with lack quality. You think that because a woman is hot and a young stripper that you got game? pfft how many std's have you caught old man? seriously your not doing anything big your an undercover sugar daddy trying to parade around as some stud. Bragging about boning strippers isn't something to be proud of.

Honestly I can't take you serious cause your whole post is dumb and your trying to discredit me by using strawman arguments and pressumptions just like a stupid girl would. "wah wah solomon doesn't get hot girls...."

:crackup:

and I see what your trying to do, I really don't have to qualify myself to you. if you wanna have a cawk measuring contest old man I'm all for it

We can go pics for pic
ex for ex
we can go video footage
chicks we approach....

It's up to you old man if you feeling "man" enough

I'm calling your bluff, what's it gonna be?

:trouble:

 

[Solomon]

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[SgtSplacker]

lol

 

[backbreaker]

You sound like an idiot, but that's what idiots sound like when they lose arguments they start bringing up stuff like "you can't spell and your lame blah blah" strawman arguments.

technically it's an ad hominem (i.e your argument is obviously wrong beucase you can't spell) but point taken

and I see what your trying to do, I really don't have to qualify myself to you. if you wanna have a cawk measuring contest old man I'm all for it

We can go pics for pic
ex for ex
we can go video footage
chicks we approach....
It's up to you old man if you feeling "man" enough

I'm calling your bluff, what's it gonna be?

I CHALLENGE YOU TO AN E-DUEL!


but yeah i fell you brah. i get **** like that all the time, especially from white dudes who get ticked i'm laying it to a woman they like.


I mean, in some respects, he is correct.. I am a strong proponent of the money over *****es platform lol, as my dad told me one day there is no going out of business sale on *****. it's not going anywhere. the faces, style of clothign might change but there will be ***** here tomorrow, next month, next year, and the next decade. do what you have to do .

I mean, why make the game harder just for the sake of making it harder? why not use every advantage you can get? yeah i probably could game women without any money or without going to the gym everyday but why lol? to prove some stupid montra of women not liking me for my looks or money?

not only that, you reall should not be making real life decisions on what is is going to be better for you with women. there are WAY more important things to consider, like your kids, your own retirement, your house, your credit, your career, your ambitions, etc. Getting nicer women easier is like the cherry on the sundae it's not the entire sundae

but at the same time, i don't want it to be confused that just beucase you have money or have a nice job that you are automatically a trick like bigneil seems to be doing. I mean, if i go out with a chick i'm not going to squabble over who pays the bill i will cover it. But I mean, it's a fallacy to think that the way you dress, the car you drive, where you live, what you do in your or what you CAN afford to do in your leisure time is not all apart of your package.

women like to have fun just like men do.

 

[Solomon]

technically it's an ad hominem (i.e your argument is obviously wrong beucase you can't spell) but point taken


I CHALLENGE YOU TO AN E-DUEL!


but yeah i fell you brah. i get **** like that all the time, especially from white dudes who get ticked i'm laying it to a woman they like.


I mean, in some respects, he is correct.. I am a strong proponent of the money over *****es platform lol, as my dad told me one day there is no going out of business sale on *****. it's not going anywhere. the faces, style of clothign might change but there will be ***** here tomorrow, next month, next year, and the next decade. do what you have to do .

I mean, why make the game harder just for the sake of making it harder? why not use every advantage you can get? yeah i probably could game women without any money or without going to the gym everyday but why lol? to prove some stupid montra of women not liking me for my looks or money?

not only that, you reall should not be making real life decisions on what is is going to be better for you with women. there are WAY more important things to consider, like your kids, your own retirement, your house, your credit, your career, your ambitions, etc. Getting nicer women easier is like the cherry on the sundae it's not the entire sundae

but at the same time, i don't want it to be confused that just beucase you have money or have a nice job that you are automatically a trick like bigneil seems to be doing. I mean, if i go out with a chick i'm not going to squabble over who pays the bill i will cover it. But I mean, it's a fallacy to think that the way you dress, the car you drive, where you live, what you do in your or what you CAN afford to do in your leisure time is not all apart of your package.

women like to have fun just like men do.

Backbreaker good to see you!!!

I agree with you, hence I started working out, hence I stopped coming around here so much and blogging. I'm taking time to focus on myself and things that matter ME!

However having come to the site agian the last two weeks or so. I see two things

1. Guys whining about pof--wtf?
2. Misygnotic posts at an all time high
3. No field reports

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It's really sad, this site has gone downhill, and I swear since Jophill died it has got X10 worst

 

[backbreaker]

yesterday I took my son to six flags, we were in line to get on a ride and i felt someone looking at me and there was this very very cute girl, couldn't have been 20, in a sundress and she was looking me up and down and she let me catch her looking at me.

i'm freaking 29 years old. ironically enough that same girl would not have given em the time of day probably withotu some hard core DJ gaming on my end 10 years ago. at 29, the deomgraphics of the girls i can date hasn't not changed whatsoever.

if guys would just get rid of the "window" thinking you don't have a freaking window. i could have talked that girl up and went out with her and probably smashed that night, but i have my **** together now, i didn't have my **** togehter 10 years ago.

plus my son is like the best prop ever lol. if i ever get single he's my wingman. "is that your son oh he's so cute what's his name". auto conversation starter lol. lol just dont' tell mommy

 

[BlackwaterPark]

I personally believe and have seen many many times that guys that focus SOLELY on their career without also creating a healthy balance of social and romantic lives are very unhappy. They are skillful with making money (which is good) but not skillful with dating and friendship. THey are unbalanced as they have their drive and ambition cranking (REAL GOOD), but they don't have the areas that de-stress and relax you, make you feel like the effort is worth it in place (they got the yang, but they are yin-less). You need to aspire and move actively towards reaching your full potential, but you also need to keep your social skills sharp.

I have many friends that are one or the other and a few that are both. The ones that have the social and seduction skills / the connection skills ONLY date a lot...sometimes serious hotties (sorry to burst your bubble there) and seem to have a lot of well being to them, but they lack confidence and ambition, and therefore they are far behind on their careers. The women they are with won't stay for very long, but they come along often.

The ones that work work work and move up in life are very stressed, and lack a sense of well being, tend to get lonely but do have financial security. They don't work their social muscles and therefore have a very difficult time relating to others.

The ones that do both have women that are excited to be around them, can meet them easily and often and those women will want to stay. They have financial security to enjoy life even more then the ones who are not as driven but are more social. < that's where you want to be. Organize your life so that you feel great about your work life, great about your social life and your romantic life. Being social and seductive are like muscles in your brain that need to be constantly used in order to be most effective. Don't wait until some magical future date to work on all three of them.

Incidentally - having more well being AND confidence makes your life with better and better women more likely and makes your career prospects better (at the upper levels, social skills are essential for your work life, regardless of what you do...well unless you are a day trader or something isolated).

Ace post. The idea that women and career are mutually exclusive is nonsense. If you're a socially awkward schmuck with a big bank account you're setting yourself up to be cucked.

 

[bigneil]

If you're a socially awkward schmuck with a big bank account you're setting yourself up to be cucked.

This is what broke people do to reason - they take things to the opposite extreme, and then say "It's a good thing I have no money". Believe it or not, to go to a job interview and get the big time salaries, you need to be Alpha. You need to dress to the nines, hold eye contact, not fidget, and know how to negotiate and ask for more. It requires the type of expertise that builds confidence and the (inevitable, multiple) hardships along the way that build character. Women DO respond to the aura that such success brings, long before the first paycheck arrives. If you're not shooting for the big time, just find a chunky chick.

 

[Uberguy]

Ace post. The idea that women and career are mutually exclusive is nonsense. If you're a socially awkward schmuck with a big bank account you're setting yourself up to be cucked.

Indeed. Money definitely enhances a man's position, but it isn't the end-all. I know two guys that are extreme examples to the contrary. One guy is a MIT grad working as a quant; the other guy got his BA in the performing arts from a fourth-tier school and does odd jobs to make ends meet. Which one is bringing in more tail? That's right: Artsy McCheapsake.

Mr. Statistical Analysis can't relate to women for the life of him, and the few girls I've seen him with have been, at best, HB3.5 - HB4.0s. Artsy, on the other hand, knows how to read people and play off what they want.

I'll admit that my own history has shown that I've gotten better with money and age, even though I don't look as good as I used to. But like I said, money only enhances; it can't be everything. If money was really all women wanted, nerds would be rock stars from high school on. There's many more variables that play a roll.

 

[TopGun2000]

yes. this is my goal to do both :rockon:

i think i've almost reached that healthy balanced point

I personally believe and have seen many many times that guys that focus SOLELY on their career without also creating a healthy balance of social and romantic lives are very unhappy. They are skillful with making money (which is good) but not skillful with dating and friendship. THey are unbalanced as they have their drive and ambition cranking (REAL GOOD), but they don't have the areas that de-stress and relax you, make you feel like the effort is worth it in place (they got the yang, but they are yin-less). You need to aspire and move actively towards reaching your full potential, but you also need to keep your social skills sharp.

I have many friends that are one or the other and a few that are both. The ones that have the social and seduction skills / the connection skills ONLY date a lot...sometimes serious hotties (sorry to burst your bubble there) and seem to have a lot of well being to them, but they lack confidence and ambition, and therefore they are far behind on their careers. The women they are with won't stay for very long, but they come along often.

The ones that work work work and move up in life are very stressed, and lack a sense of well being, tend to get lonely but do have financial security. They don't work their social muscles and therefore have a very difficult time relating to others.

The ones that do both have women that are excited to be around them, can meet them easily and often and those women will want to stay. They have financial security to enjoy life even more then the ones who are not as driven but are more social. < that's where you want to be. Organize your life so that you feel great about your work life, great about your social life and your romantic life. Being social and seductive are like muscles in your brain that need to be constantly used in order to be most effective. Don't wait until some magical future date to work on all three of them.

Incidentally - having more well being AND confidence makes your life with better and better women more likely and makes your career prospects better (at the upper levels, social skills are essential for your work life, regardless of what you do...well unless you are a day trader or something isolated).

 

[backbreaker]

yuppaz is using a logical fallacy to be lazy. the fallacy being that if someone is to focus hard on their careers for an amount of time than by default they are going to end up being socially awkard or have a miserable social life, thus well i might as well have both so I won't neglect women beucase i don't want to be a non well rounded person

that's hogwash.

I personally believe and have seen many many times that guys that focus SOLELY on their career without also creating a healthy balance of social and romantic lives are very unhappy. They are skillful with making money (which is good) but not skillful with dating and friendship. THey are unbalanced as they have their drive and ambition cranking (REAL GOOD), but they don't have the areas that de-stress and relax you, make you feel like the effort is worth it in place (they got the yang, but they are yin-less). You need to aspire and move actively towards reaching your full potential, but you also need to keep your social skills
sharp.

I mean, I believe you mean well but this is bull****. this is written by someone who is hypothesizing about what it is to be successful.

first of all, the assumption that women is a necessary part of a man's life is bull****. I can ahve a wellb alanced life and be very much single and have no romantic interests.

When I was going through my period with my business, I mean i worked mya ss off but i also did some things for me. I learned how to play the piano, I took up learning more about historial subjects that I find interesting, I learned how to really cook, I had my mindless pleasures like my gamecube that i had a few games for or watching the sopranos which was big back then or atching law and order when it came on. I even ironed my one half decent outfit i had and took myself to the movies from time to time. I just did not do it with a woman.

see, in the long run, your point of view is actually worse than mine beucase you believe you have to have a woman to be "whole" and i don't. by the time i actually had money, i had developed interests and a life to the point i honestly, did not need a woman to make me happy. I knew ho to make myself happy and knew how to live alone because i had done it.

And beucase i did not waste all my idle time at Starbucks talking to girls, i actually was interesting, i could go to an Italian restaurant and order in fluent fluent beucase i picked up Italian, i could bring a girl over my house and casually play a few tunes on my piano that i had in my living room beucase i spent my time on me.


I don't know why your post pisses me off so much but it does. I supposed because if you just don't want to give up ass, just say look i don't want to give up ass, don't bring some trumped up bull**** to the table about how you don't want to be emotionally unstable, just keep it real.

what i find more ironic than anything, is half the post on this forum are guys asking the same god damn questiont ime and time again.. "how do i go NC i keep thinking about her" or "how do i pretend i don't care" or "how do I stay busy and make her think i am important"... it's like guys would rather learn how to pretend they don't give a **** than actually learn how to not give a ****, and you not give a **** by detaching from the game and working on you and your career and your ambions.

It's akin to saying something like "well I know a lot of guys who do not go to the gym and who are avg build and size and I know a lot of guys who go to the gym and are strict eaters and the ones who go to the gym never seem to really enjoy food and they never cut back and have fun and I never want to be like that so I will go to the gym every once in a while and not really atch what i eat and be happy with my half assed results"

when put in that perspective it certaintly does not pass the bull**** test... like my business.. yes there was a time when i would not touch anything bad for me, but after finally getting into shape and habving a body I deemed good enough after some inditial hard core dieting, i was in fact able to cut back and while i still eat healthy, I enjoy food, a quarter pounder when i take my son to mc donalds, a double decker taco every once in a while when my son has to have taco bell, some shrimp fried rice when i just have the urge for chinese, but i don't live on these foods. You can talk yourself into belieivng you are having more of a balanced life but balanced life does not bring results.

as donald trump said," If you're interested in 'balancing' work and pleasure, stop trying to balance them. Instead make your work more pleasurable."

balance is for pikers and dudes that settle for HB6's with big ties and horse faces.
my wife is freaking crazy about me and the driving force behind her attraction to me is her knowing damn well i will walk out the door tomorrow if she stops living up to my exceptions, i don't give a **** about being single.,