Can someone explain to me how anybody enjoys the dating process?

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OP, who is the designer of that shirt?
Jared Lange. They are like 270 bucks a pop unless you get them for sale. The look and texture is both fantastic

It can help you get a ton of attention from gays and grandmas. Younger women nowadays are f*cking ridiculous
 

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Jared Lange. They are like 270 bucks a pop unless you get them for sale. The look and texture is both fantastic
Nice, I’m buying three (red and light blue on the others) right now. I’m 6’1 190, 8%bf. Should I get L or XL with this designer? Either way I’m tailoring the waist/back. Just want my shoulders to fit. I can fit into a 46 suit.
 

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Nice, I’m buying three (red and light blue on the others) right now. I’m 6’1 190, 8%bf. Should I get L or XL with this designer? Either way I’m tailoring the waist/back. Just want my shoulders to fit. I can fit into a 46 suit.
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buy them at nordstrom.com. That's the best deal they have

Best casual button downs I've ever come across
 

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Straight dating for men is just an absolutely miserable and excruciating process

I went out last night with me and my best friend. We went to 3 bars. At all 3 bars we went to, me and my friend were the best men in the place if you are talking about face/body/how we are dressed/how successful we are/etc.... Nobody was even remotely close to me or him. The only people who showed any indications of interest towards me was a 60 year old grandma (who was in love with me and wouldn't stop talking about how gorgeous I was) and this gay dude (who couldn't stop talking about how gorgeous we both were). We had a lot of people coming up to us and trying to make friends, complimenting us on how we looked, how jacked we were, etc.... but I saw zero opportunities whatsoever to talk to any cute young women. Every cute girl in all 3 places was either with a boyfriend or 2-5 female friends and clearly had no interest in me approaching them. This dude who is an acquaintance of mine tried to hit on these 2 girls (one was kinda my type, dark cute brunette) and before i even said anything, she told my acquaintance that she didn't want to talk to me. What the f*ck is that about?

If women are this horrific towards me, I can only imagine how horrible women are to deal with for men who are not extremely good looking/jacked/dress super GQ/are extremely successful and outgoing like I am. So how are there men out there who enjoy this process? It just boggles my mind. Dating ****ing sucks
Meeting and dating women is a fun adventure. The frustration comes from dating low-quality females.
 

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I love sex but I don't care about just getting laid with random various women.


I want 1 quality girlfriend that I can bang all the time, but even that is absurdly difficult nowadays
you know what's easier than finding the one woman who's most perfect for you all the time? finding the woman who's perfect for you on tuesdays and only talking to her on tuesdays

I tried finding one woman for all my needs, it doesn't work, you'll search forever and only come close without your goal ever being within reach. be prepared to heavily compromise
 

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If women are this horrific towards me, I can only imagine how horrible women are to deal with for men who are not extremely good looking/jacked/dress super GQ/are extremely successful and outgoing like I am. So how are there men out there who enjoy this process?
I'd say I'm good looking, jacked I am not, I dress casually and I'm outgoing whenever it pleases me. I can't remember having such a bad experience, but there's one quality you never mentioned. Domination, acting like an authority and shaming the sh!t out of them for acting like horrible human beings. That's the most effective way I've found to turn women from treating you like sh!t into them pandering to you.

The first time I experienced this effect it seemed bizarre to me, mostly because the change was instant and extreme. This was at a time I was mostly a beta chump, but slowly starting to break out of it. I was at a party, nothing special in itself really. There was a couple of girls there who had been controlling the music for over 45 minutes, I just couldn't have more of their music. I asked, they wouldn't give up control. I almost begged, they wouldn't give up control. My frustration grew stronger, but unlike in the past where I gave up and settled for less, I stood up for myself. In general they had been pretty disrespectful towards me the entire night, so I finally lost my artificial respect for them. I authoritatively commanded them to give it up and the basis that it was unreasonable to monopolize the music at a party, they refused and I forcibly it took it from them. Almost immediately after I did it their tone towards me changed drastically, like they looked up to me. It was a complete mindfvck at the time, but I rolled with it.

Ever since it has consistently worked. Assume authority, hammer down on sh!tty behavior and take control. I learned to think a few steps ahead in terms of leverage, at that point the process is enjoyable when a situation is happening because you're in absolute control since you already thought ahead and know what to do.

Sh!tty women (and people in general) don't think ahead, they reactively throw out weak defenses without already knowing how to proceed. It's like they're playing chess only knowing the basic rules without having any actual strategies, they'll get crushed against an opponent who thinks ahead, predicts their moves and has a strategy.

Next time you get disrespect from women, call out their sh!t, but have a battleplan for the potential responses you'll get. Like that girl who said she didn't even want to talk to you, that's some sh!t they need to be corrected on.
 

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I don't care at all about getting laid

I just want 1 really good woman but I obviously can't get that because of the insane difficulty level of dealing with women. I can't even get a date to begin with in terms of anybody decent
You'r not alone my friend right with you.
 

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As another poster mentioned, it could be intimidation or a "where the bishes at" type of vibe being thrown out. Try to relax more, wear more appropriate attire, and not get pissed if women wont chase you as expected. Your body language reveals your emotions more than you might assume.

I've been there man. If you're good looking, you won't have to flex out at night. I realized this when I wore a sports t-shirt to an "upscalish" type venue before and was still chased by most of the girls and invited to an orgy later on by a stranger.

There isnt much needed to change if you're a good looking man. And not just in the jacked, fashionable, and clean sense of the word. But your face soundly attractive too. I would expect women to gravitate your way, offer you drinks, and invite you to vip just for acknowledging them. Many guys think they're more good looking than they actually are, so you may want to challenge this belief. No need to prove it to us though, just some basic advice.
 

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This is the reason why "day game" has its benefits.

As for myself, I have completely dispensed with going any place where I would not enjoy going on my own to hang out (e.g., a place like Cheers, where I know a core crowd of men that are fun to shoot the sheet with, etc.), except for places that are officially hosting a "singles" function (at such a function, women's b!tch shields are for the most part down, although the quality is typically something that requires doing a little "hunt & peck" to ferret out, if not a complete a washout).
 

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God dating is a f*cking joke. I don't understand why women have to make it so unbelievably difficult???
This is why ALL human societies figured out that the most efficient way to sustain the tribe was to not waste any time on something as superfluous as dating. The tribal eldresses would get together and say that Ivan from Tevye the Milkman's family should marry to Rebecca from Mordechai the Butcher's family. Rebecca did not have the opportunity to act in her naturally hypergamous way, and when she & Ivan were 15, they got married and started having sex & children. The cost of dating so that Rebecca could hold Ivan's interest until such time that she had exhausted trying to steal Maury away from Sarah was completely obviated, thereby increasing the real output of the tribe.
 
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