broken is best

[oldmanofthesea]

While I wouldn't call them "broken" exactly (though I get the point of using that label), I will say that women who are late-bloomers have the potential to be good catches. They didn't grow up with the kind of treatment from people that strongly contributes to their becoming insane. If they can get through their formative years without being extremely depressed and having extremely low self-esteem, and then they bloom in their mid-late 20's, one of two things can happen, they either get drunk on the attention and ride the carousel twice as hard as other women their same age in order to try to fill up the validation void that was formed in their younger years, or they hang back and look to date good men. The latter is one of the VERY few types of women I've met past early 20's who are still single, really hot, and yet still solid relationship material.

 

[Velasco]

She's right

 

[Velasco]

It is an embassador that you meet first until she gets what she is after as far as her sexual strategy.

Women don't know what they want. They think they do. That is until they meet you and then rethink their life goals centered around you.

On "happiness". It doesn't matter whether she is or not. What matters is if she has or doesn't have a guy who has her wrapped around his finger.

 

[Bokanovsky]

I'm wondering where this notion of "women view a man how other women see him" came from?

It came from abundant collective experience of men. If you're out on a date with a hot girl, other women will automatically treat you differently than if you were out with a group of friends or an average looking girl. This is a very common and readily observable phenomenon.

 

[Robert28]

Owning your own dog walking service isn’t impressive dude

to be fair, rent boys are self employed too

I’m going to start telling them I have an onlyfans page and an Etsy business

 

[Velasco]

Rollo and Roissy's work is a farce. And pook for that matter.

If you are unable to recognize this after some years picking up chicks then this tells me all I need to know about you (not singling you out stringpuller). I can understand if you view these guys as all knowing gurus if your new to game. But as a veteran? Nah

 

[Barrister]

Rollo and Roissy's work is a farce. And pook for that matter.

If you are unable to recognize this after some years picking up chicks then this tells me all I need to know about you (not singling you out stringpuller). I can understand if you view these guys as all knowing gurus if your new to game. But as a veteran? Nah

Rollo and Pook a "farce"? Interesting. And why do you think this? I have actually found that much (not all) of what Rollo has to say on a variety of topics is true. And I am not new to game. Interested to hear what you believe is a "farce."

 

[Velasco]

He's a keyboard jockey.

And there are several others here and else where, who are at best only semi successful with picking up girls, that just regurgitate what hes written about. With experience you can pick apart most of what he's written.

 

[Willie Naylor]

He's a keyboard jockey.

And there are several others here and else where, who are at best only semi successful with picking up girls, that just regurgitate what hes written about. With experience you can pick apart most of what he's written.

I'm with you there. He may be able to explain lots of things intellectually, but he comes across as very dork-ish.

 

[Barrister]

He's a keyboard jockey.

And there are several others here and else where, who are at best only semi successful with picking up girls, that just regurgitate what hes written about. With experience you can pick apart most of what he's written.

The problem is you want to discredit Rollo based upon how his life has unfolded. However, you are not substantively breaking down anything he has said. That is what I am asking you.

There are many people who don't practice what they preach. That doesn't mean the material they are preaching is wrong.

 

[Bokanovsky]

If you are suggesting that women base their attractions off "feelz" you are absolutely right. That was precisely my point. We are all about feelz and emotion and not what 'other women' or 'society' thinks.

Except women's "feelz" and emotions are heavily influenced by what others in their peer groups (and the general society) think. Why else would women go to such great lengths to safeguard their "reputation" and to avoid being labelled a slvt, for example? From my experince, the vast majority of women care very much about what others think of them. Much more so than men, I have to say.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Fair enough if that's your experience. I also know women like that as I said. I guess I just didn't realize how prevalent it was, it just sounds so shallow to me, to base feelings and emotions on what other women or society thinks?

Did you read my follow up post? About women who feel an immediate attraction for you, will jump into bed with you, and want to date you not yet knowing what others or society thinks?

I dunno, I am not discounting what you claim, I am just trying to wrap my brain around it, it doesn't make much sense to me.

Maybe you are wired and/or raised differently compared to other women. There are always exceptions to every rule. As for women jumping into bed with men they are attracted to, this usually happens when the man in question is clearly of high enough status (meaning that there is implicit social approval). Or when judgment is clouded by alcohol/drugs.

 

[Barrister]

Fair enough if that's your experience. I also know women like that as I said. I guess I just didn't realize how prevalent it was, it just sounds so shallow to me, to base feelings and emotions on what other women or society thinks?

Did you read my follow up post? About women who feel an immediate attraction for you, will jump into bed with you, and want to date you not yet knowing what others or society thinks?

I dunno, I am not discounting what you claim, I am just trying to wrap my brain around it, it doesn't make much sense to me.

Women want a man who can offer them the most resources. It is innately what drives them. This is not always in the form of finances -- it can be social connections, visibility, etc. Naturally, if you meet a man who seems very well-calibrated socially and is very confident your natural inclination is going to be one of high attraction. You also assume other women want him as well because he is able to pull your strings so easily through charm and suaveness. You assume he is successful and can offer you what you want. I have experienced this first hand. When I started to turn things around with how I approach women, started having a IDGAF attitude, and being very bold towards them, I constantly got comments "I bet you do this a lot," "how many hearts have you broken with that look?", "you're a player aren't you?" etc. etc. Women know when you have other women in your life and it naturally makes you more attractive to them - at least initially.

And this is the point many black-pillers on this site and other places miss - you don't need to be a 10/10 in the looks department to pull this off. This is "game" in the truest sense. It isn't some lame PUA pick up line. It is the confidence and social adroitness that rolls off of a guy who gets it. Being good looking doesn't hurt sure - but is secondary.

 

[Velasco]

you are not substantively breaking down anything he has said. That is what I am asking you.

Post what hes said and I will break it down for you.

 

[Velasco]

Did you read my follow up post? About women who feel an immediate attraction for you, will jump into bed with you, and want to date you not yet knowing what others or society thinks?

This is the type of girl the article talks about. The outliers of which make up a large portion of the girls PUAs bang thru cold approach.

 

[Velasco]

Status is not stuff. Its many many things. Thats why she dont know. Its read through body language and attraction triggers

Body language and attraction triggers (lol) is not status. It's looks. I used to think this way with regard to vibe.

Like you see how a good looking guy stands/walks. And you think it's THAT thing that is why he's attractive (aka replicable behavior).

And you see an dejected fat old guy standing waiting for the bus (and you can just tell he's low status).

However the trick to this is to visualize that same good looking guy, standing exactly like the fat old guy waiting for the bus. He is still attractive.

While the fat old guy is happy go lucky walking around like he is on he's way to something fun is still unattractive

From the authors previous article on status:

PUAs say "Women are attracted to status because in olden times leaders with status could provide for womens' offspring", and so the PUAs try to convey status in the street with DHVs about their cool careers or lifestyles or whatever. But that's the equivalent of a woman telling a man, "Men like boobs and assess and long hair because they signify fertility; I may not have boobs or an ass or long hair, but I just got tested for fertility and my numbers are off the scale!" And of course the man wouldn't give a sh1t about her freakin' fertility because when we say that men are attracted to boobs, assess and long hair we mean that MEN ARE ATTRACTED TO BOOBS, ASSES AND LONG FVCKING HAIR not to evo-psych textbooks.

 

[Barrister]

Post what hes said and I will break it down for you.

Lol. Nice try bud. He’s written a whole book. You were the one making the bald assertion that he’s a “farce.” I think you’ve made it clear you are just talking.

 

[Velasco]

@Barrister
https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/ho4cvx

 

[Barrister]

@Barrister
https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/ho4cvx

Let me know when you’re ready to have a real conversation about your own claims and stop deflecting. You have yet to actually answer any question regarding said claims and instead post some copy/paste wall of text that has nothing to do with what we were (attempting) to discuss. Again, you are just talking. That’s pretty clear.

 

[Velasco]

Mate it's Rollo's ideas right there debunked. One by one. Hypergamy, alpha fvcks beta bucks, ALL women are like that, women love differently than men.

You can only lead a horse to water..