broken is best

[Barrister]

Post what hes said and I will break it down for you.

Lol. Nice try bud. He’s written a whole book. You were the one making the bald assertion that he’s a “farce.” I think you’ve made it clear you are just talking.

 

[Velasco]

@Barrister
https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/ho4cvx

 

[Barrister]

@Barrister
https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/ho4cvx

Let me know when you’re ready to have a real conversation about your own claims and stop deflecting. You have yet to actually answer any question regarding said claims and instead post some copy/paste wall of text that has nothing to do with what we were (attempting) to discuss. Again, you are just talking. That’s pretty clear.

 

[Velasco]

Mate it's Rollo's ideas right there debunked. One by one. Hypergamy, alpha fvcks beta bucks, ALL women are like that, women love differently than men.

You can only lead a horse to water..

 

[metalwater]

Really. Doesnt have anything to do with how you are perceived by others?
Women view you how other women see you.

yes, they also see how other men see you.

 

[metalwater]

While I wouldn't call them "broken" exactly (though I get the point of using that label), I will say that women who are late-bloomers have the potential to be good catches. They didn't grow up with the kind of treatment from people that strongly contributes to their becoming insane. If they can get through their formative years without being extremely depressed and having extremely low self-esteem, and then they bloom in their mid-late 20's, one of two things can happen, they either get drunk on the attention and ride the carousel twice as hard as other women their same age in order to try to fill up the validation void that was formed in their younger years, or they hang back and look to date good men. The latter is one of the VERY few types of women I've met past early 20's who are still single, really hot, and yet still solid relationship material.

Those would be the good ones. I have noticed recently several women trying to impersonate that and are not really.

 

[metalwater]

If you are suggesting that women base their attractions off "feelz" you are absolutely right. That was precisely my point. We are all about feelz and emotion and not what 'other women' or 'society' thinks. There are always exceptions, those women who care very much what other women, their friends or society thinks and who are influenced by it, but those women are either shallow OR they're just not all that into you.

Cause when a woman is truly into a man, she doesn't give a rat's a$$ what other women think. Or she may care but it does not negatively impact her attraction for him.

If you don't meet women like that, women who are truly into you, for you, but rather who base their attractions on what "other women" think, then either your picker is off, you have lousy taste in women or you're meeting women who are simply not into you.

women always tell this, men usually don't agree. something about what a man wants to feel being into, and what a women thinks makes him feel into.

 

[metalwater]

Women want a man who can offer them the most resources. It is innately what drives them. This is not always in the form of finances -- it can be social connections, visibility, etc. Naturally, if you meet a man who seems very well-calibrated socially and is very confident your natural inclination is going to be one of high attraction. You also assume other women want him as well because he is able to pull your strings so easily through charm and suaveness. You assume he is successful and can offer you what you want. I have experienced this first hand. When I started to turn things around with how I approach women, started having a IDGAF attitude, and being very bold towards them, I constantly got comments "I bet you do this a lot," "how many hearts have you broken with that look?", "you're a player aren't you?" etc. etc. Women know when you have other women in your life and it naturally makes you more attractive to them - at least initially.

And this is the point many black-pillers on this site and other places miss - you don't need to be a 10/10 in the looks department to pull this off. This is "game" in the truest sense. It isn't some lame PUA pick up line. It is the confidence and social adroitness that rolls off of a guy who gets it. Being good looking doesn't hurt sure - but is secondary.

@catsmeow mindset is a light switch.

 

[3AM]

Chiming in on some of the critiques here. I would have to say, I have shared experiences with many women I have been with of having "Marathon sessions" of > 4hrs. Given this isn't the standard. Although I can say, I have shared these moments quite a few times with women I have really been into. When a woman falls into your frame and you are a highly sexual person, she can get lost in your lust for her.

I feel like I should add this doesn't mean straight play the whole time. There is of course breaks.

That aside, I really liked the idea of the article and how it's presented. I find social circle game pretty easy being as I have been fortunate enough to be close to the top of the circles I have ran in. I prefer meeting new women though and don't like them connected to me, so it's easier to spin plates.

The takeaway to me is to blend the two worlds. Cold approach which I am going to be getting into does seem to be by far the best way. I have dated a fair amount of women and they all say they with things were the old ways of meeting someone randomly. This doesn't negate the status issue of today's modern world though. That's where I believe a well crafted social media comes in. Even if the social media, followers, and likes is all BS (My personal opinion), it works for women. They spend a ridiculous amount of time on these platforms.

Instead of exchanging phone numbers or snapchat, exchange your insta and have it built specifically for this aspect of your life. It can do a lot of the work for you. It can show social proof and status while you aren't even talking to her. Like investing in the markets. The best money is made when you simply choose to buy and the money does the rest. I think IG can do the same thing.

Great article to discuss though about the state of affairs.

 

[zinc4]

ya, I also thought the six hours was crazy. maybe he is just exaggerating on that point or 6 hours had some breaks in it.

I have gone that long but only on various substances plus cialis. It is possible. I am sure he is exaggerating though.

 

[Willie Naylor]

Thanks for that post @Velasco / I'll check out some of those articles.

The idea that a 'real' man always has to be lifting weights, fvcking slvts, and eating cars for breakfast is over the top.

 

[Bigpapa]

@Barrister
https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/ho4cvx

I am with you on this @Velasco

based on our experiment that we had on the group chat , we could see thst with or without game , a guy if he has the correct prerequisites he will still be more successful with girls than a guy that does not have them ( with or without game ) .

what game teaches is to not mess good sets , not on how to create attraction .

guys if want to be successful with women , have to focus 80 % on the prerequisites . Go to the gym , do a hair transplant , dress with style etc etc . . Be good with words . And Stop reading this self development bullsh1t , as it does more bad than good


the rest is mainly mental masturbation , as basically is the difference between a guy thst is good with girls and an expert . But expert level basically means years and years of experience , and it is very unlikely to have too many true experts at any given time

and then it is also a problem of quality . Most of the guys that f7ck anything , are average and bellow average girls

if game would have been the silver bullet , why they would not sleep consistently with tier 1 girls( 8+ )

because the partners more or less choose based on sexual appeal , which is something instinctive , and how you present yourself

 

[metalwater]

I am with you on this @Velasco

based on our experiment that we had on the group chat , we could see thst with or without game , a guy if he has the correct prerequisites he will still be more successful with girls than a guy that does not have them ( with or without game ) .

what game teaches is to not mess good sets , not on how to create attraction .

guys if want to be successful with women , have to focus 80 % on the prerequisites . Go to the gym , do a hair transplant , dress with style etc etc . . Be good with words . And Stop reading this self development bullsh1t , as it does more bad than good


the rest is mainly mental masturbation , as basically is the difference between a guy thst is good with girls and an expert . But expert level basically means years and years of experience , and it is very unlikely to have too many true experts at any given time

and then it is also a problem of quality . Most of the guys that f7ck anything , are average and bellow average girls

if game would have been the silver bullet , why they would not sleep consistently with tier 1 girls( 8+ )

because the partners more or less choose based on sexual appeal , which is something instinctive , and how you present yourself

can you tell me more about the experiment? on the surface what your telling does not sync with what I see.

also in this case would you define what you mean by game.

 

[Bigpapa]

can you tell me more about the experiment? on the surface what your telling does not sync with what I see.

also in this case would you define what you mean by game.

the experiment more or less was about a good looking guy With little to no game and the results he gets vs guys who are puas but not as blessed genetically

game is what pua preach

looks topped big on game