I hadn't seen a picture of Gunwitch either, but Bravo (one of the coach's for Style) put up a thread about this so it seems legit.Alle_Gory said:So how do you know this guy is Gunwich?
I'm just asking because I've never seen a picture of the guy, or his full name, or even his first name on his work....
I agree, if that really is Gunwitch that guy is totally lacking in the looks department. But hell, ANYBODY can be a guru online if you know how to write and appeal to the masses of horny internet nerds. . I put it like this, if the guy isn't posting field reports, he has no right to be posting armchair psychology/theories.Franky Four Fingers
I remember reading Gunwitches pickup method threads of 2002-3. They were more of a state of mind technique that the woman picks up on.
But I mean this guy is UGLY. I had no idea. He was actually picking up women? If yes, then anyone can pick up women regardless of looks.
You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
This is what I was thinking, although I doubt the backlash will be THAT big. I am kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop, that this guy was some sort of pickup guru.Razor Sharp said:Damn, I dont think some of you realize how huge this is. Apparently people in the PUA community are sending Gunwitch's posts, podcasts and videos to the DA's office. Can you imagine what's going to happen when the media puts all the pieces together? The community will achieve unprecedented levels of notoriety, and not the good kind.
That's only if you're tall and good looking (according to you).cordoncordon said:Just pay attention to a few of the older, wiser, experienced guys on this site, and you will do fine.
You want to follow a clown who likes like a fat Charles Manson and imo appears to be insane based on that video, and learn how to pick up girls? Feel free.bish0p said:That's only if you're tall and good looking (according to you).
So, I can see why some would want to follow advice from guys like Gunwitch, who by the way, offered free advice when he first introduced himself into the community.
At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
George Sodini was his name. And he attended a few seminars, had some books.. he was a dabbler.zekko said:This is what I was thinking, although I doubt the backlash will be THAT big. I am kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop, that this guy was some sort of pickup guru.
It will probably be like that guy who shot up the gym because he couldn't get laid awhile back, can't remember his name. It came out that he had studied a lot of pickup product.
This is a "defeated" attitude; you are basically saying that people should just accept the cards they were dealt, come to terms with their mediocrity and just live their lives in neutral gear, awaiting their death.cordoncordon said:You want to follow a clown who likes like a fat Charles Manson and imo appears to be insane based on that video, and learn how to pick up girls? Feel free.
I have never said an average to below average looking guy is going to be getting 8's, 9's, and 10's. Unless you are wealthy or a celebrity of some sort. But those guys can get 6's and below, and the occasional 7's, if they just act like a normal, fun, non possessive, non sketchy guy.
I am a big believer in evolution. And it is my opinion that the best and most genetically blessed of a species will mate with the same/equal/slightly above slightly below of the opposite sex, which is why good looking people mate with other good looking people, and average looking people generally mate with average looking people, and so on down the line. There is nothing magical or mysterious about it. It is in our DNA.
Doesn't matter, from a self defense standpoint even if he has a gun license, he can ONLY use it when being attacked and the force needed to be justifiable. I don't see ANY Judge justifying his attack on the woman like this. And if he in fact mentioned that he lived in a bad neighborhood, he made more then enough money from his "guru" sales to move into a better part of town. I think overall the guy is a fraud, just like majority of the GURUS.bukowski merit
No one knows what caused this really. Gunwitch made it no secret that he always carried a gun and that he had no problem "shooting people" if they tried to mess with him (i think he actually said once that if someone tried to rob him - he'd shoot them point blank in the face and not think twice about it.)
From what i've read - he lived in a really bad (high crime) neighborhood in a town with a huge meth problem and had claimed to have been in a few gun fights (his own admittance).
I'm holding off on judgment of act until i know what happened
Agree 100% on that. Especially the pic part. I have posted many pics of my present gf, and a few past ones, and almost everytime, I am berated by guys for doing so. I have never understood it. Either these guys don't have any pics of people they are dating to show, or they are embarrased by the ones they are dating. Or I always hear "how can you show a pic of your gf on the internet, how dare you show no respect". Uh yeah. Most girls have 10 million pics of themselves plastered on the internet on various sites, and if I thought my gf would mind I wouldnt do it...trust me it is not that big a deal. I have even wanted to start a thread where guys post pics of girls they are seeing/dating/fvcking, and that was shot down too.JT7890 said:Doesn't matter, from a self defense standpoint even if he has a gun license, he can ONLY use it when being attacked and the force needed to be justifiable. I don't see ANY Judge justifying his attack on the woman like this. And if he in fact mentioned that he lived in a bad neighborhood, he made more then enough money from his "guru" sales to move into a better part of town. I think overall the guy is a fraud, just like majority of the GURUS.
I've been reading around Sosuave for awhile and just decided to join this month. One of the things that really made this site "weird" was the over supply of theories, psychologies, etc, made by posters on here that rarely posted pics, field reports, or ANY practical experience with a girl in the field. Guys like Pook, Rollo, Senior Fingers, etc., I have NEVER seen a pic or a field report from these guys, yet, because they WRITE GOOD, they are labeled as credible sources to lead a guy's dating/social life. MAKES NO SENSE.
In the business community forums that I'm apart of, the community would not even accept you as a credible poster UNLESS you posted in your signature WHO YOU WERE (so we could look you up and see if you were really in business, successful, etc.). Anybody can post a damn theory and present it well, ANYBODY. I would be more willing to bet my money that a guy posting numerous field reports, even if he's struggling with the girl in the report, is MORE of a credible source on learning about women then ANY damn "guru" you can find.
Sometimes when I'm reading a guru's theory, it just compares to a guy that only has business school degrees and little-to-no field experience, trying to teach me how business works.
And who is holding you from posting of someone claiming it is you? The rule of thumb is: don't take everything you read or see online on the face value. Use your god given judgment.JT7890 said:Doesn't matter, from a self defense standpoint even if he has a gun license, he can ONLY use it when being attacked and the force needed to be justifiable. I don't see ANY Judge justifying his attack on the woman like this. And if he in fact mentioned that he lived in a bad neighborhood, he made more then enough money from his "guru" sales to move into a better part of town. I think overall the guy is a fraud, just like majority of the GURUS.
I've been reading around Sosuave for awhile and just decided to join this month. One of the things that really made this site "weird" was the over supply of theories, psychologies, etc, made by posters on here that rarely posted pics, field reports, or ANY practical experience with a girl in the field. Guys like Pook, Rollo, Senior Fingers, etc., I have NEVER seen a pic or a field report from these guys, yet, because they WRITE GOOD, they are labeled as credible sources to lead a guy's dating/social life. MAKES NO SENSE.
In the business community forums that I'm apart of, the community would not even accept you as a credible poster UNLESS you posted in your signature WHO YOU WERE (so we could look you up and see if you were really in business, successful, etc.). Anybody can post a damn theory and present it well, ANYBODY. I would be more willing to bet my money that a guy posting numerous field reports, even if he's struggling with the girl in the report, is MORE of a credible source on learning about women then ANY damn "guru" you can find.
Sometimes when I'm reading a guru's theory, it just compares to a guy that only has business school degrees and little-to-no field experience, trying to teach me how business works.