BPD=Last Refuge of Femininity

[Bible_Belt]

The only way to beat a BPD?

My way has been to keep my bpd girl always as the "other woman." They make perfect mistresses and horrible wives. They can only keep loving a man who is never truly obtainable; it's part of their need to constantly experience abandonment.

The understanding of BPD among even professionals is in the dark ages. I started learning about it due to the sister of my ex-wife. My ex-wife is a professional mental health counselor with a Master's degree. She learned nothing about BPD in her formal education; it all came from doing research to better understand her sister.

Being around bpd girl made me have these ideas about them being the last bastion of femininity. My gf has a good job; I've never gotten to feel like a provider around her. She loves gifts as much as anyone, but I'm never going to be the difference between eating and going hungry for her. She's never going to be homeless without me. It makes sense to me that the natural role of a man is to be a provider, because otherwise it wouldn't turn me on so much.

One of my points with this thread is that it is the downfall of western women that make bpd girls so powerful. I think BPD has always existed. I would even attribute it to many of the famous seductresses of history. From Bathsheba, to Cleopatra, to Marilyn Monroe, if a woman is famous for seducing men, she probably had BPD. But they never had as much power as they do today, in a time when women are trying to be men and have forgotten how to be women.

 

[zekko]

I may be one of the only guys on this forum who doesn't claim to have ever dated a woman with BPD. In fact, as far as I know, I never have. However, I have known a number of women who actually were diagnosed with BPD by a mental health professional.

I have to say that dating one of them was the furthest thing from my mind. And I would also say that there wasn't a one of them who didn't either hurt themselves intentionally, make a genuine suicide attempt, make a token suicide attempt as a bid for attention, or (more likely) all of the above.

Now this bit is only for those who are interested in what Borderline Personality Disorder actually is:

To actually be diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder, you have to meet at least five of the following nine criteria, as outlined in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). This is the criteria that real psychiatrists have to use to make the diagnosis:

1.Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in (5).
2.A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation. This is called "splitting."
3.Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.
4.Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating). Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in (5).
5.Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behavior.
6.Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).
7.Chronic feelings of emptiness.
8.Inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).
9.Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms.

I have a feeling most guys here would rather take their diagnostic knowledge from PUAs than from actual health professionals, however. LOL.

 

[Die Hard]

I have a feeling most guys here would rather take their diagnostic knowledge from PUAs than from actual health professionals, however. LOL.

So are you an actual health professional, sanctioned by the authorities to hand out diagnostic knowledge about BPD?

If not, then shut the fvck up, you hypocrite...

 

[5string]

Bible

You are spot on. Would rep if I could.

BPD's are the most feminine, attractive and highly sexual women on the planet. They know what it takes to attract men bigtime.

 

[zekko]

So are you an actual health professional, sanctioned by the authorities to hand out diagnostic knowledge about BPD?

If not, then shut the fvck up, you hypocrite...

Lol, and what is your problem, Die Hard? Apparently bringing up actual facts is frowned on around here, and gets you cursed at and called names. I wish I could say I was surprised, but this definitely seems to be the way the forum is headed these days. My apologies. I didn't mean for the truth to get in the way of y'all's discussion. Carry on, gents.

 

[Die Hard]

I just stated the obvious, Zekko. You are either a health professional sanctioned by the authorities to hand out diagnostic knowledge about BPD, or you are a hypocrite.

Judging from your response, it's the latter. So shut up, then.

 

[5string]

So are you an actual health professional, sanctioned by the authorities to hand out diagnostic knowledge about BPD?

If not, then shut the fvck up, you hypocrite...

No. Zekko quoted the facts. He admits he never encountered one that he knows of. If you are uneducated about cluster B disorders, you just don't know. All you do know is that's something is just wrong when you encounter the emotional vampire. Then beware.

Take it easy. We are all here to learn about women, emotional vampires or otherwise.

Read this link and learn.

http://gettinbetter.com/anycost.html

 

[Die Hard]

Ugh... Guys, please do a bit of comprehensive reading before you post? This is getting ridiculous...

 

[The_411]

BPD isn't the last refuge of femininity. It's all an act. A cluster B woman acts to entrap so if femininity is a trigger they'll pounce on that and work that angle to death.

As for the DSM IV we are have so me of those characteristics to varying degrees it's just that most of us don't have 5 or more of them concurrently.

There's an an unofficial "playbook" that cluster B women use and from the descriptions of certain behaviors its' fairly easy to tell a cluster B woman from a non cluster B.

I've been able to scope out a diagnosis for women when a psychiatrist has failed to recognize it and I've been able to get additional evaluations to rebut the original psychiatrist.

That being said ultimately it doesn't matter as long as you can recognize three things.

1) When you are being horribly mistreated
2) That if you're getting involved with people of poor quality there is something that needs to be fixed within yourself otherwise you'll continue to repeat those types of relationships
3) your boundaries and that you need enforce them

 

[zekko]

No. Zekko quoted the facts. He admits he never encountered one that he knows of.

What I said was I have never dated one that I know of. I've encountered quite a few of them, who were actually professionally diagnosed. And as I said previously,

"there wasn't a one of them who didn't either hurt themselves intentionally, make a genuine suicide attempt, make a token suicide attempt as a bid for attention, or (more likely) all of the above."

I've never had a desire to date any of them. BPDs like a lot of drama, which I prefer to avoid.

As for what I do for a living, Die Hard, I've never cared to say. Regardless, that doesn't affect the truth of what I said. BPDs are diagnosed by meeting five of the nine criteria laid out in the DSM. If you think that is incorrect, address that instead of calling me names.

 

[Die Hard]

Yaketee yak, Zekko... You ARE a hypocrite because you accused forum members of rather taking advice from fellow members than from health professionals. At the same time, you expect those forum members to take YOUR advice on BPD, while you are just another forum member. So you're a hypocrite, that's a FACT, namecalling has nothing to do with it.

So shut up...

 

[Die Hard]

He is saying it because it is true. The 17+ page BPD thread is clearly one filled with those who had encounters with a BPD nightmare. Their behaviors make them absolutely predictable on when they will abandon you, but then return from fear of losing you. I have fvked many many girls, yet I have only dated one that displayed these BPD traits. It is real, it can be identified by those with experience, and the one's in the cluster B thread are without a doubt cluster B.



One does not need to be a doctor to identify a broken arm. Nor does one need to be a degreed psychologist to match up BPD behaviors with a woman they are dating.

Good post. Too bad certain members (like Zekko and speed dawg) can't see this.

About the post you quoted me on, I was sarcastically referring to speed dawg's opinion (which I obviously disagree with). But I guess you missed that

 

[zekko]

Yaketee yak, Zekko... You ARE a hypocrite because you accused forum members of rather taking advice from fellow members than from health professionals. At the same time, you expect those forum members to take YOUR advice on BPD, while you are just another forum member.

I haven't offered any advice on BPDs. I was telling the group how Borderline Personality Disorder is defined in the real world, since "BPD" has become such a catch-all phrase on SoSuave. I did preface this information with a message saying it was only for those interested in such things. Apparently you were not.

Whether I am, or am not, a mental health professional is irrelevant. The information I quoted is from the DSM IV, which certainly was written by health professionals. You're attacking me personally, but cannot discredit what I was saying.

 

[5string]

Yaketee yak, Zekko... You ARE a hypocrite because you accused forum members of rather taking advice from fellow members than from health professionals. At the same time, you expect those forum members to take YOUR advice on BPD, while you are just another forum member. So you're a hypocrite, that's a FACT, namecalling has nothing to do with it.

So shut up...

You are way out of line young brother. You are the one calling folks names and telling them to STFU. A keyboard jockey if I ever saw one.

You should either:

1) Be banned from the forum
2)If not banned, apologize to zekko and move on
3)Unfvck yourself and treat others with respect, even if you disagree with them

 

[Colossus]

Not to beat a dead horse, but it is statistically impossible that so many members of this forum have BPD girlfriends or exes. Just because they meet SOME of the criteria, does not necessarily mean they are clinically BPD. This is called confirmation bias.


That aside, nix the flames before we have another locked BPD thread.

 

[switch]

nevermind the others BB, you keep fvcking that BPD, and ill keep watching you as i munch popcorns and wait for the gore scenes of
your beautifully crafted sci-fi crime nove...*cough* love story *cough*

 

[ludis]

nix the flames before we have another locked BPD thread.

Isn't it weird how BPD's can create chaos even when not present? *mind blown*

 

[The Duke]

Have any of you ever stopped to think that some of the tactics taught here are like free crack for chics with cluster B issues? The two go hand in hand.

 

[Bible_Belt]

My bpd girl uses the term "alpha female" all the time in regard to herself. She is as fascinated with being alpha as any guy on this forum. She likes to talk about the ways women fight with each other with words, versus the way that men fight through violence and physical intimidation.

And like I said, BPD is such an unexplored niche of psychology that a typical professional will not know much more than an average person. It's like asking a general practice doctor a dermatology question, or an ambulance-chasing lawyer about a Fed criminal defense. We live in a world of specialization, and most people don't know much outside of their specialty.

 

[Die Hard]

You are way out of line young brother. You are the one calling folks names and telling them to STFU. A keyboard jockey if I ever saw one.

You should either:

1) Be banned from the forum
2)If not banned, apologize to zekko and move on
3)Unfvck yourself and treat others with respect, even if you disagree with them

I'm not calling names, I'm stating facts. Keyboard jockey? LOL, whatever... You have a bloated ego, assuming that your disapproval means anything to me. Newsflash: I don't care what you think of me at all, pal.

So here's my counter list:

1) YOU should be banned from the forum for having the arrogance to tell others they should be banned or that they are "out of line".
2) Zekko should apologize to the forum as a whole, for his accusation that people on this forum have insufficient knowledge to put the BPD label on a woman.
3) You should mind your own business.