Boxing: Mayweather V Mitchell

[CLOONEY]

How you see this one panning out?

Mayweather is definately the superior fighter and carried his weight upto 140 very well, infact I think he punches harder P4P at 140 than he did previously.

However, 147 is another step up! Mitchell should not have a problem carrying the extra weight, considering he is a natural 140 pounder and a reasonably big/solid one at that.

Mayweather has some big wins, namely Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo, Coralles etc, however notice one thing? All are against slugger guys with poor defence.

Mitchell willl present a whole different problem and considering Corley got some big left hands through that rocked Mayweather, this might be an interesting fight.

A lot of "experts" say this will be an easy fight for Mayweather (considering the way Tszyu disposed of Mitchell), however I dont think it will be so easy, afterall, styles make fights!

Mayweather will win this one by UD. Probably around 116-112, with Mitchell frustrating him a bit and having his moments. Might look sloppy at times also.

Thoughts?

 

[GSXR RiDeR]

Originally posted by CLOONEY
How you see this one panning out?

Mayweather is definately the superior fighter and carried his weight upto 140 very well, infact I think he punches harder P4P at 140 than he did previously.

However, 147 is another step up! Mitchell should not have a problem carrying the extra weight, considering he is a natural 140 pounder and a reasonably big/solid one at that.

Mayweather has some big wins, namely Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo, Coralles etc, however notice one thing? All are against slugger guys with poor defence.

Mitchell willl present a whole different problem and considering Corley got some big left hands through that rocked Mayweather, this might be an interesting fight.

A lot of "experts" say this will be an easy fight for Mayweather (considering the way Tszyu disposed of Mitchell), however I dont think it will be so easy, afterall, styles make fights!

Mayweather will win this one by UD. Probably around 116-112, with Mitchell frustrating him a bit and having his moments. Might look sloppy at times also.

Thoughts?

Hey CLOONEY looks like you were right about the second Corrales v Castillo fight, Castillo demolished him this time round but i lost a lot of respect for him for the **** he pulled by not even trying to make weight

Anyway regarding the Mayweather v Mitchell fight i pretty much agree with your prediction of a Mayweather UD or possible late TKO (11th round). 8 rounds to 4 sounds about right maybe 7 to 5 on a couple of the judges scorecards if Mitchell brings his A game. If Mitchell can come out and dictate the pace of the first couple of rounds and then settle into a good rhythm his slick southpaw style might give mayweather a bit of trouble but i still dont see how he would beat Floyd in the end. PBF at the very least is equal with Sharmba in all these aspects

Speed = Very close but i would give the edge to PBF
Defence = Mayweather
Power = Hard to say at 147 but PBF carried good power to 140
Chin = Both solid, possible edge to PBF
Skills = Mayweather
Heart = ???

I have been a bit down on boxing since Kostya Tszyu, my favorite fighter of all time lost to Ricky Hatton. This probably sounds stupid to most ppl here but when boxing is a big part of your life and you love the sport like i do it fu(king sux when your guy loses. I didnt even want to know about boxing for a couple of weeks after that fight but like everything in life you get over it.

 

[qweretyuiopas]

Mayweather will win

 

[backbreaker]

Mayweather will win, and I doubt it goes longer than half the fight.. Mayweather is just to damn good for him

 

[CLOONEY]

Re: Re: Boxing: Mayweather V Mitchell

Originally posted by GSXR RiDeR
Hey CLOONEY looks like you were right about the second Corrales v Castillo fight, Castillo demolished him this time round but i lost a lot of respect for him for the **** he pulled by not even trying to make weight

Anyway regarding the Mayweather v Mitchell fight i pretty much agree with your prediction of a Mayweather UD or possible late TKO (11th round). 8 rounds to 4 sounds about right maybe 7 to 5 on a couple of the judges scorecards if Mitchell brings his A game. If Mitchell can come out and dictate the pace of the first couple of rounds and then settle into a good rhythm his slick southpaw style might give mayweather a bit of trouble but i still dont see how he would beat Floyd in the end. PBF at the very least is equal with Sharmba in all these aspects

Speed = Very close but i would give the edge to PBF
Defence = Mayweather
Power = Hard to say at 147 but PBF carried good power to 140
Chin = Both solid, possible edge to PBF
Skills = Mayweather
Heart = ???

I have been a bit down on boxing since Kostya Tszyu, my favorite fighter of all time lost to Ricky Hatton. This probably sounds stupid to most ppl here but when boxing is a big part of your life and you love the sport like i do it fu(king sux when your guy loses. I didnt even want to know about boxing for a couple of weeks after that fight but like everything in life you get over it.

Lol, yeah I know what you mean. When RJJ first lost to Tarver, or when Mosley lost to Forrest, I was brutally crushed! It almost feels like someone close to you died! Crazy! But as Floyd Mayweather once said, boxing is the hardest sport in the world, Alan Iverson can have a bad day, boxers must perform at their peak EVERY SINGLE outing! Otherwise, their record is tarnished in history and their stock goes down!

Kostya was disappointing, but Hatton was just too young and hungry! Tszyu is old (especially for someone at 140), did have a large layoff (that has to affect stanima), and not to mention thousands upon thousands of fans screaming every single time Hatton did ANYTHING was obviously not good for Tszyus morale! Not making excuses, but he didnt have a lot in his favour! Hatton however, looks like a force to be reckoned with at the 140 limit!

I also agree, Floyd could stop Mitchell later in the fight, considering Floyd is a beast down the stretch!

Some other good fights coming up BHOP V Taylor, (Taylor by UD), and Mosley V Vargas early next year (Mosley by either close UD or late TKO). Also Lacy V Calzaghe (might be very very close, I would probably take Calzaghe if he was on a good night, the man is just so damn arratic, but then again, thats what you get when u fight bums all the time).

 

[backbreaker]

i'm going to the Hopkins v. Taylor fight in December. Taylor is from the same city I am from (little rock) and is a hometown hero down here.

However, as much as I love him as a fighter, I don't think Hopkins makes the same mistake he did last fight by waiitng until the 8th round to start fighting... could be VERY interesting...

 

[CLOONEY]

Originally posted by backbreaker
i'm going to the Hopkins v. Taylor fight in December. Taylor is from the same city I am from (little rock) and is a hometown hero down here.

However, as much as I love him as a fighter, I don't think Hopkins makes the same mistake he did last fight by waiitng until the 8th round to start fighting... could be VERY interesting...

Yeah, he is a hometown fighter for you. Do you know him, ever met him? Seems like a good guy in real life.

As for BHOP, he doesnt have a choice but to start slow. That is how BHOP does it, and that is the ONLY way he can do it now he is an old man. BHOP has been going down hill for years (Ever since the Tito fight IMHO), and it is plain obvious he is nothing to what he used to be. His reflexes have gone, his speed, his stanima. Not to mention Jermaine looked very nervous and uncomposed in that first fight, he will only improve from there, and that last fight gave him some great experience.

BHOP doesnt have the power to KO Taylor (unless of course he lands that big one-two, sometimes the right at the end is huge), and I dont see BHOP taking it on points, he just hasnt been active enough in fights for years now.

Good fight and a changing of the guards for the middleweight division, a shame neither guy is in their prime. BHOP is old, Taylor is green.

Taylor by UD, 115-113.

 

[PRMoon]

Mayweather will DESTROY Mitchell. I watched him train a month ago his speed is impressive but his stamina is OUTRAGEOUS. He swapped out like 4 or 5 sparing partners and didn't show any signs of fatigue at all even after going full bore for close to 20 minutes. Do you know why no one signs Mayweather to fights? It's because no one wants to see their fighter get caught up in that onslaught knowing it won't even be close. Since he evolved that new agressive fighting style he's been out of controll dominant in his matches. Don't even look for this one to go the distance, he won't knock Mitchell out but I doubt he'll be able to continue much after the 8th from all the punches Mayweather will land on him.

 

[backbreaker]

Originally posted by CLOONEY
Yeah, he is a hometown fighter for you. Do you know him, ever met him? Seems like a good guy in real life.

As for BHOP, he doesnt have a choice but to start slow. That is how BHOP does it, and that is the ONLY way he can do it now he is an old man. BHOP has been going down hill for years (Ever since the Tito fight IMHO), and it is plain obvious he is nothing to what he used to be. His reflexes have gone, his speed, his stanima. Not to mention Jermaine looked very nervous and uncomposed in that first fight, he will only improve from there, and that last fight gave him some great experience.

BHOP doesnt have the power to KO Taylor (unless of course he lands that big one-two, sometimes the right at the end is huge), and I dont see BHOP taking it on points, he just hasnt been active enough in fights for years now.

Good fight and a changing of the guards for the middleweight division, a shame neither guy is in their prime. BHOP is old, Taylor is green.

Taylor by UD, 115-113.

actually I do. we have mutal friends.

He is a great guy, but has a bit of a temper... One night, long before he was famous, my friends and I were in Ihop and he happened to be there, and a random guy came up to him and hit on his girl in his face... He proceeded to give him one of the worst ass whoppings known to man. It was so bad people didn't even want to break it up.

Other than that, he is extremely approachable, a great athelete... smaller than you would think, he's really not big at all... I mean, he's ripped, but he's not big.

He's by far the most loved athlete from arkansas, with Joe Johnson being a distance second.

It's one thing to start slow, it's another thing to wait until the end of the 7th/8th round to show life.

If he kicks it in gear around the end of the 4th, ,beginning of the 5th, I think he will give JT a run for his money... If that fight would have lasted 2 more rounds last time, he would have knocked JT out.

I don't see where you guys think BHOP lost his reflexes... the last 4-5 rounds he toyed with JT, JT couldn't touch him, and damn near every other punch he was throwing was dead on... He just starts slow.

I am rooting for JT, but I watch enough boxing to know people, ,espically down here, are selling BHOP short, ,very short.

 

[jason86]

Mayweather in 5.

And Hatton will DESTROY Maussa. That guy has the weirdest style ive ever seen, what the fuk?

Lacy - Calzaghe and Mosley - Vargas, you sure those been set? What dates they on?

 

[Dimebag_Darrell]

its all about Jermain Taylor form little rock

 

[GSXR RiDeR]

Originally posted by jason86
Mayweather in 5.

And Hatton will DESTROY Maussa. That guy has the weirdest style ive ever seen, what the fuk?

Lacy - Calzaghe and Mosley - Vargas, you sure those been set? What dates they on?

4th of Feb 2006 for Lacy v Calzaghe

25th of Feb for Vargas v Mosley

 

[GSXR RiDeR]

Re: Re: Re: Boxing: Mayweather V Mitchell

Originally posted by CLOONEY
Lol, yeah I know what you mean. When RJJ first lost to Tarver, or when Mosley lost to Forrest, I was brutally crushed! It almost feels like someone close to you died!

LOL yeah man thats pretty much how i would decsribe it

 

[CLOONEY]

Originally posted by backbreaker
actually I do. we have mutal friends.

He is a great guy, but has a bit of a temper... One night, long before he was famous, my friends and I were in Ihop and he happened to be there, and a random guy came up to him and hit on his girl in his face... He proceeded to give him one of the worst ass whoppings known to man. It was so bad people didn't even want to break it up.

Other than that, he is extremely approachable, a great athelete... smaller than you would think, he's really not big at all... I mean, he's ripped, but he's not big.

He's by far the most loved athlete from arkansas, with Joe Johnson being a distance second.

It's one thing to start slow, it's another thing to wait until the end of the 7th/8th round to show life.

If he kicks it in gear around the end of the 4th, ,beginning of the 5th, I think he will give JT a run for his money... If that fight would have lasted 2 more rounds last time, he would have knocked JT out.

I don't see where you guys think BHOP lost his reflexes... the last 4-5 rounds he toyed with JT, JT couldn't touch him, and damn near every other punch he was throwing was dead on... He just starts slow.

I am rooting for JT, but I watch enough boxing to know people, ,espically down here, are selling BHOP short, ,very short.

Have you watched the Tito fight? That night was the prime of BHOP. Watch it, then watch any of BHOPs recent outings (From Allen, Eastman, De La Hoya to Taylor). NONE of them compare to the fleet of foot and speed of hand he showed around the time of the Tito fight. He is 40 afterall, and that is just plain old, it is physically impossible, as shown throughout history to be in great boxing condition at that age. I mean, you can still be a champ, but you will not be in your prime.

I think BHOP will give Taylor a run, I am not seing him short, he is rought, can get dirty and is very very cagey. The man is an expert at the boxing game, and Taylor is just green. A prime BHOP would have stopped Taylor no doubt (that is this version of Taylor, he will probably only get better and better, but he does have a very suspect chin). However, BHOP has definately slowed (once again, view the Tito fight, then put in one of the other tapes I named), his punch output has dropped (check the punch stats). Either way, I will be cheering for Taylor, and think he will win. BHOP however, will give him some problems. I just see Taylor being more composed this fight (not swinging for the rafters like he was last fight), plus not expending so much nervous energy. BHOP on the other hand, is only getting older, and I have not seen him turn up the heat early on for a long long time. Dont really see him doing it this time either, if he does, he may also run out of gas. Guess only time will tell, but my money would definately be on Taylor on this one. Considering BHOP will start favourite.

 

[backbreaker]

I agree with you 100%.. the only thing I am saying, even though I admit he is getting OLD, being old had nothing with him todo with him waiting until the 8th round to start taking any shots..

As bad as his foot speed and reflexes are , he had enough in him to do the harlem shake in the 8th round last f ight, and he had enough to make JT look silly the last 3-4 rounds.

Also, JT isn't going to overpower BHOP.. he isn't going to land one punch that will just change the fight... if he had that type of power, BHOP wouldn't stand a chance.

JT has that damn left jab that is deadly, and he has thoose long arms. IT gets to you more so than a Strong hook or something like that would, ,beccause everytime you try to do something.. "pop" you get stung... and by the 7th round or so, your body says "i had enough of this ****"

 

[CLOONEY]

Yeah, but thing is, BHOP hasnt started doing anything in the first half of the fight in YEARS.

That is just what old BHOP does, leaves something left in the tank and tries to execute late. He uses his ring savvy and crafty style to make guys miss for the first few rounds, banking half the rounds, and then executes late, winning the last rounds, just as he did to JT in the first fight, and just as he will in the second fight.

Only problem is, JT has more skill and is a naturally bigger guy than most of BHOPs recent opponents. JT CAN and WILL take the early rounds, and if BHOP does try to open up more early, he may not have the gas either in the later rounds (happens to every boxer once they pass 35+).

BHOP definately does have a chance in this fight, and you cant write a man like him off, I do however think the odds are in JTs favour, and hence, why he is a better bet for this fight.

However, afterall, this is boxing, and the fact that "anything can happen" as they say, is the beauty of this sport!

 

[TheRenegadesOfFunk]

Mayweather V Mitchell
-Mayweather’s recent choices of opponents have been disappointing. Instead of fighting high profile fighters (such as Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Winky Wright, Kostya Tszyu, Ricky Hatton, or Zab Judah), Mayweather (the consensus 'P4P King') is wasting his time pounding a 35-year-old Sharmba Mitchell. Mayweather by KO late.

 

[MindOverMatter]

He is a great guy, but has a bit of a temper... One night, long before he was famous, my friends and I were in Ihop and he happened to be there, and a random guy came up to him and hit on his girl in his face... He proceeded to give him one of the worst ass whoppings known to man. It was so bad people didn't even want to break it up.

I can just see it on mASF:

"FR: AMOG gone wrong"

Remember kids, if you're gonna AMOG a celebrity, do it to someone like Screech.

 

[backbreaker]

it was funny, because everyone in IHOP, I guess besides him, knew who Jermain was, even though he wasn't THAT famous (he had already won the bronze at Sydney)... it's was like "dude, that dude must have gotten dared or something" then it was like "dude... I think he is really going to fight him ,or at least try to" then when it became apparant Jermain had gotten fed up everyone in Ihop was like "this dude must be on crack or something, he is going to literarly get killed"

 

[CLOONEY]

Originally posted by The_Shezzler
Yea lol

Oh, unless that kid you refer to happens to be Ricky Hatton - then you can AMOG anybody you want.

One body punch ***Crunch*** and PU complete...

Sarge On...

lol, Ricky Hatton would be destroyed on the street by Jermain Taylor also. He is far too small!