Bootcamp Week#1: Start Your Engines...
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GodsGiftToFatBirds
Senior Don Juan
Haha, i was expecting to read a more indepth report of the event itself, summat like the old porno stories out of razzle!
This kinda reinforces my opinion (that i've only got over the last couple weeks) that when you go out, you stand a better chance of getting laid by staying sober and driving rather than getting pissed, simply cos you're able to give a lift home to any girls you meet.
This is so long as you're still able to approach and chat up girls in a club without a few pints inside you, i find that the high you get off drinking loads of coke makes you upbeat enough to attract girls without the booze.
FR: Week 1, Day 4.
Although I have completed the 50 EC assignment, I continue to practice a few of them today. Not much really happen since I'm tired from being out at the club yesterday night and had to work this working so I'm back home just relaxing a bit for now.
Anyways, I'm taking this time to reflect on what I have learned so far. And I realize that I have a good idea what a girl likes in a man. So much of this game is mental and your body language, voice, and attitude, style has to fit what most women want. Recognizing what women want and becoming what women want is a very difficult task. It's a process of change, recreating your character and personality. It's not like a mask you can simply wear and assume DJness. We have spent our entire lifetime being our AFC self, it's not going to be a easy to undo all the programming and become that desirable DJ. But each time we step into the field, we are one step closer to our goal.
Although I have completed the 50 EC assignment, I continue to practice a few of them today. Not much really happen since I'm tired from being out at the club yesterday night and had to work this working so I'm back home just relaxing a bit for now.
Anyways, I'm taking this time to reflect on what I have learned so far. And I realize that I have a good idea what a girl likes in a man. So much of this game is mental and your body language, voice, and attitude, style has to fit what most women want. Recognizing what women want and becoming what women want is a very difficult task. It's a process of change, recreating your character and personality. It's not like a mask you can simply wear and assume DJness. We have spent our entire lifetime being our AFC self, it's not going to be a easy to undo all the programming and become that desirable DJ. But each time we step into the field, we are one step closer to our goal.
RBB
Senior Don Juan
FR: W1D5 - The 17 bullets of wetness
Agent RBB reporting in.
Debrief:
As I anticipate town was full of HB class. Pure punanny galore. No work today, today I work for myself.
Friday 28th Oct.
0915 - Woke up
1005 - Bus into town
1030 - Set foot in enemy territory
Report:
Armed only with my bootcut faded jeans, funky zipper hoody, gelistic hair and my metaphoric gattling gun, I sized up my mission. Get in and get it done.
At first I walk around looking at some clothes and some CDs, I might as do it before the lunchtime break. On my way to the CD store I make EC with some noticeable hunnies but didn't say anything. I guess forgot to load my gun. To now which, I regret. Once I get to the CD store I ask the girl behind the counter to direct me to the new -Fall Out Boy- album, and a few other ghey a$$ CDs. I asked her about some 'up and comer' rock/punk bands and she told me to check out a website that she knows for tours and stuff. I then asked her if she went to the Taste of Chaos tour and we had a conversation from there. -something like this-
RBB: So did ya catch the Taste of Chaos tour last week?
HB cd: Yea I did. I went with my bf.
RBB: General admission?
HB cd: Yeap.
RBB: That's the only way to go! So who did you go to see?
HB cd: Killswitch Engage. They're one of my favs.
RBB: Ooh.. they're a little hard for me. I couldn't get into it. Infact I only saw one group moshing like crazy in the circle. Probably was you guys.
HB cd: lol yea.. probably. I bought the Killswitch Tee there and was wearing it. The one like Kill Bill. Who were you there to see?
RBB: The Used.. Someone threw a shoe at them so security were looking for a dude without a shoe. It was a brown Vans, like the ones I got on now!
HB cd: Erg, The Used.. how useless.
RBB: Har-HAR.. don't make me throw a shoe at you.
HB cd: lol..
RBB: I'll just grab these then.
I bought 2 albums and then left. Well now I know she's not my type. I wouldn't of known if I didn't talk to her. What a slurry.
So after I finished shopping up I decide to walk around and say my Hellos to HBs who are in their 30s. I just wanted to put a twist on BC.
The responses that I got varied, but I was never to be discouraged. I set myself this goal and I was gonna get it. At the end of the hours session I got 17 Hi/Hellos/Hey/Mornings back. This time I made a mental note of them so I wouldn't have to go back home and guess.
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I think I could of gotten more Hi's back if I wore something more appealing or 'open' if you will, to all age groups. Decked out in my punk gear I'ld only attract young HBs. Arh well.. I always got tonight.
The story so far..
EC, smiles, Hi's: 32ish (?)
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football as in soccer right? lol
Agent RBB reporting in.
Debrief:
As I anticipate town was full of HB class. Pure punanny galore. No work today, today I work for myself.
Friday 28th Oct.
0915 - Woke up
1005 - Bus into town
1030 - Set foot in enemy territory
Report:
Armed only with my bootcut faded jeans, funky zipper hoody, gelistic hair and my metaphoric gattling gun, I sized up my mission. Get in and get it done.
At first I walk around looking at some clothes and some CDs, I might as do it before the lunchtime break. On my way to the CD store I make EC with some noticeable hunnies but didn't say anything. I guess forgot to load my gun. To now which, I regret. Once I get to the CD store I ask the girl behind the counter to direct me to the new -Fall Out Boy- album, and a few other ghey a$$ CDs. I asked her about some 'up and comer' rock/punk bands and she told me to check out a website that she knows for tours and stuff. I then asked her if she went to the Taste of Chaos tour and we had a conversation from there. -something like this-
RBB: So did ya catch the Taste of Chaos tour last week?
HB cd: Yea I did. I went with my bf.
RBB: General admission?
HB cd: Yeap.
RBB: That's the only way to go! So who did you go to see?
HB cd: Killswitch Engage. They're one of my favs.
RBB: Ooh.. they're a little hard for me. I couldn't get into it. Infact I only saw one group moshing like crazy in the circle. Probably was you guys.
HB cd: lol yea.. probably. I bought the Killswitch Tee there and was wearing it. The one like Kill Bill. Who were you there to see?
RBB: The Used.. Someone threw a shoe at them so security were looking for a dude without a shoe. It was a brown Vans, like the ones I got on now!
HB cd: Erg, The Used.. how useless.
RBB: Har-HAR.. don't make me throw a shoe at you.
HB cd: lol..
RBB: I'll just grab these then.
I bought 2 albums and then left. Well now I know she's not my type. I wouldn't of known if I didn't talk to her. What a slurry.
So after I finished shopping up I decide to walk around and say my Hellos to HBs who are in their 30s. I just wanted to put a twist on BC.
The responses that I got varied, but I was never to be discouraged. I set myself this goal and I was gonna get it. At the end of the hours session I got 17 Hi/Hellos/Hey/Mornings back. This time I made a mental note of them so I wouldn't have to go back home and guess.
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I think I could of gotten more Hi's back if I wore something more appealing or 'open' if you will, to all age groups. Decked out in my punk gear I'ld only attract young HBs. Arh well.. I always got tonight.
The story so far..
EC, smiles, Hi's: 32ish (?)
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football as in soccer right? lol
scorpio king
Don Juan
I was not in the mood sarging because of some problems but I still forced myself to do the exercise because I am under training. I read the post of Tyler Durden on www.bristollair.com about how to achieve the goal. He said that during his training, he would sarge even in ****tee conditions. So I followed his advice, and asked my trusted friend to sarge with me at the mall. The score was 6-5, with yours truly leading. We couldnt say the hello when we got in the mall because the insecurities and fear again enveloped us. We decided to go to the park but still no hello, and to make matters worse, it started to rain. It rained real hard and we only had one umbrella to shelter from.
But instead of the rain discouraging us, we realized the hardships that we face in order to finish the exercise. This is how we are dedicated. We thought fuk the rain, it cant stop the birth of two Don Juans!!:rockon: We also agreed to whosoever finishes first to 50 hellos should be paying for the fare home. This is where things got exciting! Competition! We then head back to the mall, with determination like hungry wolves. We would not only greet one girl, we would even greet 3 to 5 girls. We didint give a fuk if the people behind us would laugh.
SO the count is 40 all. Tomorrow will be the tie breaker because we decided to save it for our enrollment. We wanted to do it in the university because this is what we always wanted.
I will not only beat his ass, I would also climb the first step of the Don Juan ladder. RIght now, adrenaline is still rushing thru my veins because I was like injected by the testosterone shot Pook was talking about.
But instead of the rain discouraging us, we realized the hardships that we face in order to finish the exercise. This is how we are dedicated. We thought fuk the rain, it cant stop the birth of two Don Juans!!:rockon: We also agreed to whosoever finishes first to 50 hellos should be paying for the fare home. This is where things got exciting! Competition! We then head back to the mall, with determination like hungry wolves. We would not only greet one girl, we would even greet 3 to 5 girls. We didint give a fuk if the people behind us would laugh.
SO the count is 40 all. Tomorrow will be the tie breaker because we decided to save it for our enrollment. We wanted to do it in the university because this is what we always wanted.
I will not only beat his ass, I would also climb the first step of the Don Juan ladder. RIght now, adrenaline is still rushing thru my veins because I was like injected by the testosterone shot Pook was talking about.
scorpio king
Don Juan
Were unstoppable, even Nature cant stop us.
RBB
Senior Don Juan
Ooh wee.. the weekend. I'm sure there's gonna be some interesting war stories. No doubt scorpio king will win his wager. If not, ditch your trusted friend and take his umbrella. Girls get wet, not guys.
Goodluck! :woo:
Goodluck! :woo:
The Nice Guy is Gone
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Not a whole lot of luck this go 'round
Well, yadda yadda, the Wal-Mart story:
I walked over to Wal-Mart and made eye contact (or attempted to) with everyone I saw. About 25% actually returned the eye contact. Of those 25%, about 2% actually returned the smile. I got two good mornings/hi's in, but no returns.
It's not a very busy day for the places around here just yet. Well, well, tonight is free pool/no cover night--I'm going to shoot pool, and have some fun. My goal is to approach at least one girl, and if she's in a group, so be it.
My new goal through this boot camp is to be able to approach anyone at anytime, as long as I am the one that wants to.
I met a girl online, and she gave me her number. I intend to get a date set up for this Tuesday, but I'm not going to call her until either later today, or tomorrow. I'll let y'all know how it goes.
Sarging is a must.
Well, yadda yadda, the Wal-Mart story:
I walked over to Wal-Mart and made eye contact (or attempted to) with everyone I saw. About 25% actually returned the eye contact. Of those 25%, about 2% actually returned the smile. I got two good mornings/hi's in, but no returns.
It's not a very busy day for the places around here just yet. Well, well, tonight is free pool/no cover night--I'm going to shoot pool, and have some fun. My goal is to approach at least one girl, and if she's in a group, so be it.
My new goal through this boot camp is to be able to approach anyone at anytime, as long as I am the one that wants to.
I met a girl online, and she gave me her number. I intend to get a date set up for this Tuesday, but I'm not going to call her until either later today, or tomorrow. I'll let y'all know how it goes.
Sarging is a must.
scorpio king
Don Juan
ok Shezz play some football
Thanks RBB I'll definitely kick some rear end!
Good luck to the Walmartsarge of Nice Guy is Gone. Continue mesmerizing your highschool friends Johnm240 by your new Don Juan persona. Good luck to the unmentioned others.(because my stomach is aching as of writing:moon: )
Thanks RBB I'll definitely kick some rear end!
Good luck to the Walmartsarge of Nice Guy is Gone. Continue mesmerizing your highschool friends Johnm240 by your new Don Juan persona. Good luck to the unmentioned others.(because my stomach is aching as of writing:moon: )
FR: Week 1, Day 5.
Well, today I wanted to start early and work on converstion with strangers. I was at the bank and the female teller was very cute. So I tried to strick up a conversation with her. I don't necessarily have trouble talking to strangers since I have been thru customer service jobs in the past. But this time I want to work on being funny and try and make her laugh. But I couldn't think anything funny to say, so instead I ask her if she can recommend a place to eat around here. So our whole conversation was about different food around the area (ZZZZZZZZ). Being funny on the fly is pretty damn hard.
Well, today I wanted to start early and work on converstion with strangers. I was at the bank and the female teller was very cute. So I tried to strick up a conversation with her. I don't necessarily have trouble talking to strangers since I have been thru customer service jobs in the past. But this time I want to work on being funny and try and make her laugh. But I couldn't think anything funny to say, so instead I ask her if she can recommend a place to eat around here. So our whole conversation was about different food around the area (ZZZZZZZZ). Being funny on the fly is pretty damn hard.
mrpinkdonttip
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bootcampin
hi again all, I meant to post here sooner but as part of my dj evolution I've come across a "giving away my power" stumbling block where I'm realizing part of my previous needy problem was seeking validation from others so I'm not discussing feelings or conquests or defeats in depth with anyone. I don't plan on this being a permanent thing and I'm keeping lots of notes for a monster post at a later time. I just wanted to check in and say I'm doing great, I'm on day 5 of week 3 but skipped a week to wk 4 of BC and only have one more number rejection to go. I have had some amazing experiences and have come up against some monster fears and faced them down. I had a day night in san francisco that was unreal. met people from all over the world and came very close to hooking up with a french canadian flight attendent who was easily a 8 (what does hb mean btw? I was gonna put "HB8" but it feels dumb if I don't know what it means lol). I have found the biggest obstacle to be freinds who have expectations of who you're "supposed" to be and co-workers etc. they recognize the change in me and know it's positive and see I'm happier and stronger for it yet feel the need to try and knock me down, I've noticed since listening to people how selfish a lot of people are. 90% of people will gladly ramble on about themselves for 30 minutes and never ask you **** about yourself. my sticking point right now actually is I'm not feeling people in general - I'm feelin bitter and it's hard to give a **** and have a decent convo cuz I'm so disgusted by them. chicks are pigs too man, I can't beleive how some of them react when you ask 'em out. I would never (well would have never) treat someone like that who laid themselves vulnerable like that. it's sick. for the most part thought it's been a positive experience and I'm certainly glad I'm doing it. this is life changing, this is epic shyt man. i had some down on my self time today for the first time really and have been struggling out of it, I realize I have to keep on top of shyt cuz if not all of a sudden im deflated and I don't know why. once I recognized it i went back through my day and discovered the things I let slide that did it. thikning about my one-nitus chick and letting someone diss me mainly. I'm a stutterer too so I can crash and burn real quick. so anyway like I said, not gonna divulge much actually I am only skimming the surface of the multitude of experiences I've went through the past couple weeks. this is much heavier shyt than picking up chicks, i'm trying to become a man and it HURTS! lol ill post again next week. peace homies
hi again all, I meant to post here sooner but as part of my dj evolution I've come across a "giving away my power" stumbling block where I'm realizing part of my previous needy problem was seeking validation from others so I'm not discussing feelings or conquests or defeats in depth with anyone. I don't plan on this being a permanent thing and I'm keeping lots of notes for a monster post at a later time. I just wanted to check in and say I'm doing great, I'm on day 5 of week 3 but skipped a week to wk 4 of BC and only have one more number rejection to go. I have had some amazing experiences and have come up against some monster fears and faced them down. I had a day night in san francisco that was unreal. met people from all over the world and came very close to hooking up with a french canadian flight attendent who was easily a 8 (what does hb mean btw? I was gonna put "HB8" but it feels dumb if I don't know what it means lol). I have found the biggest obstacle to be freinds who have expectations of who you're "supposed" to be and co-workers etc. they recognize the change in me and know it's positive and see I'm happier and stronger for it yet feel the need to try and knock me down, I've noticed since listening to people how selfish a lot of people are. 90% of people will gladly ramble on about themselves for 30 minutes and never ask you **** about yourself. my sticking point right now actually is I'm not feeling people in general - I'm feelin bitter and it's hard to give a **** and have a decent convo cuz I'm so disgusted by them. chicks are pigs too man, I can't beleive how some of them react when you ask 'em out. I would never (well would have never) treat someone like that who laid themselves vulnerable like that. it's sick. for the most part thought it's been a positive experience and I'm certainly glad I'm doing it. this is life changing, this is epic shyt man. i had some down on my self time today for the first time really and have been struggling out of it, I realize I have to keep on top of shyt cuz if not all of a sudden im deflated and I don't know why. once I recognized it i went back through my day and discovered the things I let slide that did it. thikning about my one-nitus chick and letting someone diss me mainly. I'm a stutterer too so I can crash and burn real quick. so anyway like I said, not gonna divulge much
actually I am only skimming the surface of the multitude of experiences I've went through the past couple weeks. this is much heavier shyt than picking up chicks, i'm trying to become a man and it HURTS! lol ill post again next week. peace homieswell the dance was fun. i got like 6 dances in only , but i had fun and i didnt care what some people thought about me like my cuzin
him- you look ugly in that costume take it off
me- (goes up to a random hb 6 girl) Hey i have a quick question how do i look
girl- u look hot.
me- thanks you look good yourself see u at the dance. ( didnt dance with her did better )
so at the dance im getting into the music spirt im talken to my friend im like see thouse girls there dancen together. They want someone to dance with em go up and dance around em and then be like lets dance. Hes like nahh im like okay
i do a party boy and act funny and dance around them. I go lets dance. She was a playboy bunny was good dance
few songs latter another song comes up im dancen with other girls . MY friend still didnt dance i like wtf so im talken to him a bit im like your comming with me tommorow to the mall as my wingman.
so bassicly i dance with other girls. Then i see this girl who i think has been avoiding me cuz i think shes not interested i see and make ec she looks then looks away dances with some other guy. was like okay. Then she kidnas walks around me and i dance with another girl. She looked kinda angry but hey two can play at this game.
so after she with her friends so i go up to this one girl whos her friend and im also friends with. she sees me walks away saying shes gotta go now. Im like ya walk away to myself. Then bassicly i came back home made some nasty improvements today
one thing though is sometimes like i need to get into a groove to get dancing. takes me a while to get into a groove and if im not in that groove sometimes i have a hard time to dance. BAssicly dancing tips bassicly how to engage into the dance.
him- you look ugly in that costume take it off
me- (goes up to a random hb 6 girl) Hey i have a quick question how do i look
girl- u look hot.
me- thanks you look good yourself see u at the dance. ( didnt dance with her did better )
so at the dance im getting into the music spirt im talken to my friend im like see thouse girls there dancen together. They want someone to dance with em go up and dance around em and then be like lets dance. Hes like nahh im like okay
i do a party boy and act funny and dance around them. I go lets dance. She was a playboy bunny was good dance
few songs latter another song comes up im dancen with other girls . MY friend still didnt dance i like wtf so im talken to him a bit im like your comming with me tommorow to the mall as my wingman.
so bassicly i dance with other girls. Then i see this girl who i think has been avoiding me cuz i think shes not interested i see and make ec she looks then looks away dances with some other guy. was like okay. Then she kidnas walks around me and i dance with another girl
. She looked kinda angry but hey two can play at this game.so after she with her friends so i go up to this one girl whos her friend and im also friends with. she sees me walks away saying shes gotta go now. Im like ya walk away to myself. Then bassicly i came back home made some nasty improvements today
one thing though is sometimes like i need to get into a groove to get dancing. takes me a while to get into a groove and if im not in that groove sometimes i have a hard time to dance. BAssicly dancing tips bassicly how to engage into the dance.
Swoop's big field report.
My buddy and I went to this Exotic Holloween Bash at a local club/bar that had a contest to see who dress the most provocative. Place was filled with super hot chicks. After my lesson learn in the club experience that I posted, I thought about using the tips you'all told me. I play it cool at the beginning. I went to the dance floor and just did my thang and not care for the ladies. Rotated around and just checking if there was any eye contacts. But none so I kept moving around and dancing in my own little space. I didn't sneak up behind any girls this time, a mistake I did last time. I also tried to built some social proof and bonded with some dudes there as well and some other dudes initiated the bond with me cuz I was just vibing like I'm the ****. Anyways, my budy on the other hand goes around and dry hump every girl, haha that's his thang. After a while of dancing alone, me and my buddy would approach two sets and dance with them both. Of course they dance a little while then they leave. I didnt have much success at the dance floor. My main point was just to have a good tiime. After dancing for 20 minutes, I went to the bar and kick it. There was this two hot chicks that just came in and they stand behind me while I sat on the chair, I sat with my legs open and just vibing to the music, projecting a good body language that says this guy is da man. Anyways, I turn around to the ladies behind me, and said "Oh did you want this seat?" One of them said "oh no we just hanging out here", so I turn around and act like I dont care that they are hot, and kept watching the game that's on tv, the other chick said "hey, that's was nice of you though". I turn around and look at her and smile. I truly believe that their ***** shield were broken, at least one of them for sure. But I didnt follow up cuz I was just playing it cool. Later on, I see them both at the dance floor. I tap the girl that said I was a nice guy for offering the chair and she turn around and I smile and just wave to her and she wave back like we are friends. Damn, so for sure I broke the ***** shield there. I was gonna dance with her but this ugly short guy came up to her and dance in close and in her face and scare her off. Oh well, then I just went down stairs to the bar and I walk like I was heading somewhere important, didn't make eye contact, and I pass another group, 1 tall guy and 2 hotties in full costumes (SEXY!). So I did my approach:
I stop and acted like their costume caught my eye, commented
Swoop: "Damn, you guys are in kickass costumes!"
I made an effort of course to look at the guy first and talk to him.
Guy: "oh but I'm not in costume".
Swoop: "my bad!" *we both laugh.*
-I then turn to the ladies and spoke to the girl closest to me.-
Swoop: "So what are you suppose to be?"
HB vampire : "I'm a vampire." (smiling)
*I turn to the other girl*
Swoop: "how about you?"
HB rainbow: "Guess!"
*I look her up and down and had no idea haha so I took a guess*
Swoop: "um....... sailor moon?"
HB rainbow: "Nope, I'm rainbow brite."
Swoop: "Oh I see, yea... so you guys planning to win the costume contest?"
HB vampire: "No we're not, just for fun."
Swoop: "well, I hope you do though. It was nice talking to you guys later.."
Huge improvement for me, before people would give me this "why this guy is talking to me (or us)" look but I am getting the idea on how to break into the group or one on one. Of course the whole night wasn't this smooth. I burned and crash a couple of times haha. I started convo with 1 chick at a bar, and she was talking back but I got no more **** to talk about haha. She left and went back to the dance floor. Another time I crash and burn was when my buddy drag me to go talk to 2 set of chicks and I wasn't ready so he hit on one and I hit on another, **** I was horrible haha I didnt know wtf I was saying hahaha, and they just say "we are leaving soon though" (excuses excuses cuz I bump to them later on the top floor and I tap one of them and said "I thought you guys were leaving", she said "we change our mind." I just gave her that look like whatever.
I didnt attempt any #close. I would have gotten shot down anyways cuz now I recognize my weakness. I can't make interesting conversation. I can carry a conversation but it is boring as ****. So I need to improve my convo skills so I can attract and make them laugh. Oh yea, one more approach I did. I went up to this HB9 (hottest one in the place) and of course I know about neg hits but I know I won't score anyways so I just walk up to her as she was tying her shoe laces, "Hey, I know you get this all the time, but I don't care, DAAAAAAAMN YOU LOOK GOOD!!!" She looked up and smile and said "Oh thank you!" I smile and walked away (haha). Now I know for sure I'm not afraid to approach any girl, but **** I got no game yet. I can't talk them up. That's what I need to work on. I'm gonna practice that on tons of strangers until I can get them busting up all the time. Once I get that skill I know I'll be one step closer to #closing successfully.
My buddy and I went to this Exotic Holloween Bash at a local club/bar that had a contest to see who dress the most provocative. Place was filled with super hot chicks. After my lesson learn in the club experience that I posted, I thought about using the tips you'all told me. I play it cool at the beginning. I went to the dance floor and just did my thang and not care for the ladies. Rotated around and just checking if there was any eye contacts. But none so I kept moving around and dancing in my own little space. I didn't sneak up behind any girls this time, a mistake I did last time. I also tried to built some social proof and bonded with some dudes there as well and some other dudes initiated the bond with me cuz I was just vibing like I'm the ****. Anyways, my budy on the other hand goes around and dry hump every girl, haha that's his thang. After a while of dancing alone, me and my buddy would approach two sets and dance with them both. Of course they dance a little while then they leave. I didnt have much success at the dance floor. My main point was just to have a good tiime. After dancing for 20 minutes, I went to the bar and kick it. There was this two hot chicks that just came in and they stand behind me while I sat on the chair, I sat with my legs open and just vibing to the music, projecting a good body language that says this guy is da man. Anyways, I turn around to the ladies behind me, and said "Oh did you want this seat?" One of them said "oh no we just hanging out here", so I turn around and act like I dont care that they are hot, and kept watching the game that's on tv, the other chick said "hey, that's was nice of you though". I turn around and look at her and smile. I truly believe that their ***** shield were broken, at least one of them for sure. But I didnt follow up cuz I was just playing it cool. Later on, I see them both at the dance floor. I tap the girl that said I was a nice guy for offering the chair and she turn around and I smile and just wave to her and she wave back like we are friends. Damn, so for sure I broke the ***** shield there. I was gonna dance with her but this ugly short guy came up to her and dance in close and in her face and scare her off. Oh well, then I just went down stairs to the bar and I walk like I was heading somewhere important, didn't make eye contact, and I pass another group, 1 tall guy and 2 hotties in full costumes (SEXY!). So I did my approach:
I stop and acted like their costume caught my eye, commented
Swoop: "Damn, you guys are in kickass costumes!"
I made an effort of course to look at the guy first and talk to him.
Guy: "oh but I'm not in costume".
Swoop: "my bad!" *we both laugh.*
-I then turn to the ladies and spoke to the girl closest to me.-
Swoop: "So what are you suppose to be?"
HB vampire : "I'm a vampire." (smiling)
*I turn to the other girl*
Swoop: "how about you?"
HB rainbow: "Guess!"
*I look her up and down and had no idea haha so I took a guess*
Swoop: "um....... sailor moon?"
HB rainbow: "Nope, I'm rainbow brite."
Swoop: "Oh I see, yea... so you guys planning to win the costume contest?"
HB vampire: "No we're not, just for fun."
Swoop: "well, I hope you do though. It was nice talking to you guys later.."
Huge improvement for me, before people would give me this "why this guy is talking to me (or us)" look but I am getting the idea on how to break into the group or one on one. Of course the whole night wasn't this smooth. I burned and crash a couple of times haha. I started convo with 1 chick at a bar, and she was talking back but I got no more **** to talk about haha. She left and went back to the dance floor. Another time I crash and burn was when my buddy drag me to go talk to 2 set of chicks and I wasn't ready so he hit on one and I hit on another, **** I was horrible haha I didnt know wtf I was saying hahaha, and they just say "we are leaving soon though" (excuses excuses cuz I bump to them later on the top floor and I tap one of them and said "I thought you guys were leaving", she said "we change our mind." I just gave her that look like whatever.
I didnt attempt any #close. I would have gotten shot down anyways cuz now I recognize my weakness. I can't make interesting conversation. I can carry a conversation but it is boring as ****. So I need to improve my convo skills so I can attract and make them laugh. Oh yea, one more approach I did. I went up to this HB9 (hottest one in the place) and of course I know about neg hits but I know I won't score anyways so I just walk up to her as she was tying her shoe laces, "Hey, I know you get this all the time, but I don't care, DAAAAAAAMN YOU LOOK GOOD!!!" She looked up and smile and said "Oh thank you!" I smile and walked away (haha). Now I know for sure I'm not afraid to approach any girl, but **** I got no game yet. I can't talk them up. That's what I need to work on. I'm gonna practice that on tons of strangers until I can get them busting up all the time. Once I get that skill I know I'll be one step closer to #closing successfully.
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Don Juan
mrpinkdonttip - you should post some of the crash and burns and yuou're responses so we can learn from them....
FR friday night
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started off by walking to the bank for some cash, said hi to a lovely HB on the way, got a smile and a hello back. then went to my local with 2 friends, it was packed as always, so we went out the back and found our friend who was waiting for us. He'd been approached to two girls, HB and UG, and was chatting away. I started a convo with the better looking one, which petered out so I started talking to the other one. She was obviously bored and didnt seem very conversational so I started chatting to my mates. Turns out they were country bumpkins anyway lol
The pints are flowing freely at this point and my friend C opens on two beautiful HB's while im at the bar. Wandered over and started a convo with one, and it went great. we had alot in common and things were going swimmingly until an AMOG attempted to interject with his mate. Now, this is where things got weird, he opened with something like "hey guys, we're freaks" and kept this up for the conversation. I basically ignored him, but not before mentioning that his opener was "just weird", and then I turned away. HB turned and started talking to her friend, AMOG's ejected. tools. started convo with HB again, but her friend wanted to eject so they left. Didnt get contact details as she was from interstate and the AMOG's had killed the rapport.
Moved on to a club with C after the pub started turning into a bit of a male only affair, and the place is full of HB's. Now, we're starting to get pretty f*cked by this point, so I went and had a dance and wind up chatting to a HB7 with a killer body. At some point a UG comes over, and they start tongue kissing in front of me. Lesbians. If only they were all lipstick lesbians eh. I always wonder why a cute girl goes for pig ugly, butch girls. Something wrong there. Anyway, UG leaves and me and HB Lesbian hang out. Towards the end of the night (lol, this is like 7:00am) we're sitting at the back of the club chatting away, things are getting flirty and another girl im flirting with at the same time tells me the lesbian wants to f*ck me. so I test the water by having a dance with her, and things are getting pretty hot with some grinding at which point she says "You should keep your c0ck away from me, im a lesbian for a reason, I dont like c0ck" damn!
So I shifted my attention to the other chick. to cut a long story short I got this one home, and I'll leave the rest to your imagination
so results of first week:
-ec is no problem for me now
-I feel better saying hi to strangers, but need more work here
- need to work on convo skills to engage people who are obviously bored (this is c+f, right?)
-I love lesbians, but its not as easy as dutch films would have you believe
-First lay of the BC (I think )
FR friday night
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started off by walking to the bank for some cash, said hi to a lovely HB on the way, got a smile and a hello back. then went to my local with 2 friends, it was packed as always, so we went out the back and found our friend who was waiting for us. He'd been approached to two girls, HB and UG, and was chatting away. I started a convo with the better looking one, which petered out so I started talking to the other one. She was obviously bored and didnt seem very conversational so I started chatting to my mates. Turns out they were country bumpkins anyway lol
The pints are flowing freely at this point and my friend C opens on two beautiful HB's while im at the bar. Wandered over and started a convo with one, and it went great. we had alot in common and things were going swimmingly until an AMOG attempted to interject with his mate. Now, this is where things got weird, he opened with something like "hey guys, we're freaks" and kept this up for the conversation. I basically ignored him, but not before mentioning that his opener was "just weird", and then I turned away. HB turned and started talking to her friend, AMOG's ejected. tools. started convo with HB again, but her friend wanted to eject so they left. Didnt get contact details as she was from interstate and the AMOG's had killed the rapport.
Moved on to a club with C after the pub started turning into a bit of a male only affair, and the place is full of HB's. Now, we're starting to get pretty f*cked by this point, so I went and had a dance and wind up chatting to a HB7 with a killer body. At some point a UG comes over, and they start tongue kissing in front of me. Lesbians. If only they were all lipstick lesbians eh. I always wonder why a cute girl goes for pig ugly, butch girls. Something wrong there. Anyway, UG leaves and me and HB Lesbian hang out. Towards the end of the night (lol, this is like 7:00am) we're sitting at the back of the club chatting away, things are getting flirty and another girl im flirting with at the same time tells me the lesbian wants to f*ck me. so I test the water by having a dance with her, and things are getting pretty hot with some grinding at which point she says "You should keep your c0ck away from me, im a lesbian for a reason, I dont like c0ck" damn!
So I shifted my attention to the other chick. to cut a long story short I got this one home, and I'll leave the rest to your imagination
so results of first week:
-ec is no problem for me now
-I feel better saying hi to strangers, but need more work here
- need to work on convo skills to engage people who are obviously bored (this is c+f, right?)
-I love lesbians, but its not as easy as dutch films would have you believe
-First lay of the BC (I think
)FR, Questions
I've been doing this EC stuff for a while now, and I have some questions about particular situations.
* A girl sitting, waiting for her bus. I look her straight in the eyes, but I *FORGET* to smile. She keeps following me with her eyes, and I do as well. She actually looks UP while I walk her by.
* A girl sitting in the bus, a few seats in front of me, facing towards me. I had to get out, and I look her in the eyes. She keeps her eyes locked as well.
While I pass her I smile, and she says something, but I have my MP3 player on at the time, so I didn't hear what.
Maybe it was "Hi", maybe it was "wtf u looking at weirdo".
* Another bus story, same situation, different girl. I keep looking at her ALOT, and I believe she returned EC alot too. IOI? Dunno. I look her in the eyes and smile, she does this fakesmily thing and looks away again.
So my question. Every so often I feel people get freaked out, or don't feel comfortable when I make/maintain EC. What part am I doing wrong? Shouldn't I keep EC? I feel looking away when having EC is a sign of being submissive, which isn't good.
I've been doing this EC stuff for a while now, and I have some questions about particular situations.
* A girl sitting, waiting for her bus. I look her straight in the eyes, but I *FORGET* to smile. She keeps following me with her eyes, and I do as well. She actually looks UP while I walk her by.
* A girl sitting in the bus, a few seats in front of me, facing towards me. I had to get out, and I look her in the eyes. She keeps her eyes locked as well.
While I pass her I smile, and she says something, but I have my MP3 player on at the time, so I didn't hear what.
Maybe it was "Hi", maybe it was "wtf u looking at weirdo".
* Another bus story, same situation, different girl. I keep looking at her ALOT, and I believe she returned EC alot too. IOI? Dunno. I look her in the eyes and smile, she does this fakesmily thing and looks away again.
So my question. Every so often I feel people get freaked out, or don't feel comfortable when I make/maintain EC. What part am I doing wrong? Shouldn't I keep EC? I feel looking away when having EC is a sign of being submissive, which isn't good.
The Nice Guy is Gone
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Club was a no-go
Well, I attempted to go to the club last night that has a no cover/free pool night every Friday. As it turned out, they had a private party going on, so that was a bust. I did, however, make a little conversation with one of the guys checking the list or whatever, and he was in some kind of weird indian costume.
My roommate was going to go with me to shoot some pool, so we were both walking up to the door. Now, I was walking up like I was all that, and as soon as I spotted the guys, I said, "Y'all still got the no cover/free pool on Friday nights?" He said, "Yeah, but tonight we actually have a private party going on tonight."
I don't remember most of the convo, but I do remember we laughed a bit, and we left with telling each other to have a good weekend.
So, while it wasn't a complete bust, it was exactly what I was looking for.
I get paid on Tuesday, so I should be better in the coming weeks of boot camp. I think I'll keep it up at Wal-Mart, though; simply because it's good practice.
Well, I attempted to go to the club last night that has a no cover/free pool night every Friday. As it turned out, they had a private party going on, so that was a bust. I did, however, make a little conversation with one of the guys checking the list or whatever, and he was in some kind of weird indian costume.
My roommate was going to go with me to shoot some pool, so we were both walking up to the door. Now, I was walking up like I was all that, and as soon as I spotted the guys, I said, "Y'all still got the no cover/free pool on Friday nights?" He said, "Yeah, but tonight we actually have a private party going on tonight."
I don't remember most of the convo, but I do remember we laughed a bit, and we left with telling each other to have a good weekend.
So, while it wasn't a complete bust, it was exactly what I was looking for.
I get paid on Tuesday, so I should be better in the coming weeks of boot camp. I think I'll keep it up at Wal-Mart, though; simply because it's good practice.
The Nice Guy is Gone
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Re: FR, Questions
At first, I had to make myself say hi to strangers. It kind of weirds me out when I am making direct eye contact with a stranger and there is nothing but silence. Try to keep headphones off of your head when making eye contact so that you can say hi, and can hear what/if anything is said in return.
The thing I've learned mostly about eye contact here besides the fact that generally people are afraid to return it, is that it does feel kind of off to just give eye contact and not say anything. If you are giving eye contact to people, open up and say something as simple as hi. 9 times out of 10, you'll get a hi back and maybe even get an interesting conversation out of it.
At first, I had to make myself say hi to strangers. It kind of weirds me out when I am making direct eye contact with a stranger and there is nothing but silence. Try to keep headphones off of your head when making eye contact so that you can say hi, and can hear what/if anything is said in return.
