Body Types that Most Women Favor

[JT47319]

Originally posted by Abbott
I'm 5'7" and 120 lbs. BMI = 18.8 People have said I'm thin and/or skinny, but I never quite sure if I should believe them.

And no, I've never been interested in being bigger, since I'd feel weird and insecure if I was. After all, I've been the same size for probably 5 years now.

There is one plus...when I say things that are gutsy, they'd have much more impact because apparently I must be confident enough that they won't retaliate.

Ben

Dude, that is straight up skinny.

Trust me, I used to have the exact same stats before in high school until I put on more muscle weight in college.

The difference is- that now- I'm IN THE GAME. I'm no Brad Pitt type, but at a certain level, girls are physically attracted to me because I'm average/solid build for someone my size.

Believe your friends, your body ISN'T creating the attraction in girls that you would like to believe. Your size is not average, it's below average and it's not attractive to girls. "Thin is in" only applies to guys who are also TALL.

Hypothetically, your body type might attract 10% of girls. Put on more muscle mass to at least AVERAGE and, again making up numbers here, you'd probably create physical attraction in 25%.

In other words, a guy with an AVERAGE build will attract and cause attraction in girls an X amount of percentage. Your build, because it's below average, actually creates X minus Y. Ideally, you want to be above average physique so the physical attraction you create is X plus Y.

And eventually, as you reach PUAdom, it's X plus Y plus Z (Game). In that way, you can compete with the rich and good looking.

 

[christz]

I wanna, no actually i have to put my opinon down.

I'm almost the same size as abbott 5'7 about 125. And i think i'm kinda skinny, BUT i do work out though, so i have tone. Although this tone is mostly made up in my chest shoulders and stomach.

I do have a six pack that is clearly defined, i know skinny dudes have an "auto six pack" cuz there skinny.. but mine actually shows (lines, defenition and such) also my shoulders aren't droopy like some skinny guys because i do workouts to make them defined.

But my arms, need some working on.. So i say this i have NEVER had a problem getting a girl. Well sometimes it may seem like i do.. BUT i never had a problem.

When i do get a girl there IS some pokeing at my weight. OMG your so small! OMG your wrist are like mine. OMG this OMG that. I know this is half in play and half she's validateing something in her head.

I think IMO i'm above average if not better. At least now lol back in the day that was another story. Now this last girl i had i no longer am talking with but i could tell that my personality and attitude and the way I carried myself she was drawn into me. In fact when i asked she said i thought you were a player and a jerk and concided just by how you carried yourself. BUT when it came down to raw manlyness she questioned me.

"you should work out, you'd be so much hotter"

"i love guys with nice arms, you should goto the gym or something"

in the end i think it got the best of her also she was a bit taller than me she was 5'8 I was 5'7 so i think sometime during our short lived relationship she felt like i was inferior. THUS the reason i have chosen to spend my free time ganing weight.

I've found that overloading my body with calories on top of a Fast paced 20 min heavy work out has gained me at least 3 pounds every week and a half!

SO IMO weight does matter.. BUT not as much as one may think, one can still get the girl. as long as he has attitude and personality.. but also i think i have a little advantage over the other guy because i have somewhat of a pretty face.

 

[MsThang]

I think this is a pretty pointless discussion. Sure, some guys are more better-looking than others and some guys are probably better looking than you.

I'll tell you what's not attractive, though: Being insecure about your body type.

I have friends who like short and muscular, I like tall and cut, some like lanky guys, some want men that look like Hulk Hogan, some think pudge is cute. Girls are a lot less hung up on physical appearance anyway. I didn't say we didn't care, because we definitely care. We're just a lot more flexible than you are when it comes to looks, I think. Seriously, look at gay women and straight men compared to gay men and straight women. Notice which group is better looking? It's because we don't fvcking care that much!

Seriously, you as a man have the advantage of making up for your looks with personality traits or even stupid things like money or a nice car (this is a little sick, but sadly it works in many cases.) Don't worry so much, it'll only make you insecure and like I said THAT is unattractive.

 

[Blue Phoenix]

Originally posted by christz
I wanna, no actually i have to put my opinon down.

I do have a six pack that is clearly defined, i know skinny dudes have an "auto six pack" cuz there skinny.. but mine actually shows (lines, defenition and such) also my shoulders aren't droopy like some skinny guys because i do workouts to make them defined.

What is 6 pack?

Originally posted by MsThang
I think this is a pretty pointless discussion.

Well, for you! This thread is interesting!

 

[Lifeforce]

LifeForce:
"Jacked?" I'm not familiar. Is that a slang word?

It means built and ripped.

 

[Abbott]

Originally posted by MsThang
Seriously, you as a man have the advantage of making up for your looks with personality traits or even stupid things like money or a nice car (this is a little sick, but sadly it works in many cases.) Don't worry so much, it'll only make you insecure and like I said THAT is unattractive.

I'd imagine that my personality is fine. I like to lead, not follow. I'm not very sensitive to women at all, and I don't do anything to suck up to them. I've been called a conceited assho|e before. And...I don't give in if someone says something to make me look bad. I somehow manage to be cool and calm when it comes to most things. I'm more sensitive towards my male friends, but that's because you have to be there for them. There could be something wrong with my personality (apart from asking women "body type" questions, which I don't think I'll do anymore), but I wouldn't know what it is.

Well then...perhaps this means that I have incentive to get that sweet Beemer sedan sooner instead of later (right now all I have is a pickup). But...$25K-$35K is a lot.

Originally posted by Blue Phoenix
What is six pack?

What's the best way to describe this...? It's when you have really toned abdomen muscles and you can see six distinct bumps there, because the muscles are real strong. Athletic type people tend to have that.

Antonym:
See "kegger" and "fat guy."

Ben

 

[akindofblue]

I definitely catch more attention from more attractive girls now since I've hit the gym. Over the past year, I brought myself from 6', 175 pounds to 6' 195 pounds. I actually just hit 200 the other day.

I have a six pack, and you can definitely tell I'm pretty athletic, even when I'm wearing dress clothes. It's really so much easier now.

All these advantages can disappear a bit if you're abroad, though. I was in France recently for a few months, and I totally dwarfed the little French dudes who wouldn't touch a dumbbell unless you drenched it in cheese. It took a bit more work there to meet some French girls, but that probably had something to do with the fact that I am an unapologetic Republican.

 

[eps]

eh ... sucks for me

Maybe I'm the exception and I hope that's true:

At the end of freshman year in college I weighed 125 lbs. I felt like a little boy; I figured that was the reason no women returned my attention so I started to workout like hell consistently for past 1.5 years

It's junior year now and I weigh 180 lbs with little body fat. I am bigger, leaner and stronger than I have ever been in my life.

GUESS WHAT GAINING WEIGHT HAS DONE FOR ME? NOTHING, NADA, ZIP - I have seen no more women into me compared to about two years ago.

There is something more important that you have to do to attract women ... that's basically following the dj bible. So don't get too obessesed with becoming 'bigger' - just do it for yourself before you do it for anyone else.

 

[Player_Supreme]

Originally posted by MsThang
I think this is a pretty pointless discussion. Sure, some guys are more better-looking than others and some guys are probably better looking than you.

I'll tell you what's not attractive, though: Being insecure about your body type.

I have friends who like short and muscular, I like tall and cut, some like lanky guys, some want men that look like Hulk Hogan, some think pudge is cute. Girls are a lot less hung up on physical appearance anyway. I didn't say we didn't care, because we definitely care. We're just a lot more flexible than you are when it comes to looks, I think. Seriously, look at gay women and straight men compared to gay men and straight women. Notice which group is better looking? It's because we don't fvcking care that much!

Seriously, you as a man have the advantage of making up for your looks with personality traits or even stupid things like money or a nice car (this is a little sick, but sadly it works in many cases.) Don't worry so much, it'll only make you insecure and like I said THAT is unattractive.

You and I are in agreement MsThang. This is a pointless post and trip into insecurity.

Abbott agreed on this point also so I'm surprised to see that he is still posting on it.

This thread needs to die to the graveyards. It's amazing to see how many insecure heads have posted here!

How is Austrailia (if I recall correctly), aren't you guys going into your summer?

I'll be right over....have that champagne chilled and I will see ya at 3pm

 

[zentraveller]

I was 6'1" 160lb before I started the skinnyguy.net program. I've pushed that up to about 180-185lb in the last 2 months or so through diet/intensive weight lifting.

For myself personally, being tanned makes more of a difference than being built (it takes me a day under the sun to get completely dark brown). I'm Asian, and it seems to be quite a turn on for the white girls (my IOIs go up by about 2-300%). I've had Asian girls complain about it though (except for Southeast Asian girls who get excited thinking I'm some kind of giant Cambodian/Vietnamese ).

It's funny how different types of girls respond differently to color and body types.

 

[Blue Phoenix]

Re: eh ... sucks for me

Originally posted by eps
Maybe I'm the exception and I hope that's true:

At the end of freshman year in college I weighed 125 lbs. I felt like a little boy; I figured that was the reason no women returned my attention so I started to workout like hell consistently for past 1.5 years

It's junior year now and I weigh 180 lbs with little body fat. I am bigger, leaner and stronger than I have ever been in my life.

GUESS WHAT GAINING WEIGHT HAS DONE FOR ME? NOTHING, NADA, ZIP - I have seen no more women into me compared to about two years ago.

There is something more important that you have to do to attract women ... that's basically following the dj bible. So don't get too obessesed with becoming 'bigger' - just do it for yourself before you do it for anyone else.

Strange. When I was working out, I noticed that some girls were "eyeing" me! Anyway, you went from 125lbs to 180lbs and still no woman? This fact shows how important is to know the concepts of the DJbible!

But it's kind of ironic. For each person here, there're specific ways to improve their success with women! For some, it's more the body, for others it can be the naivety (no game, afcness), etc!

That's the purpose of this forum! Each person here have to know what they need to improve and start the process!

But anyway, reaching 180lbs is a good thing! Keep it up!

 

[jakethasnake]

Originally posted by akindofblue

All these advantages can disappear a bit if you're abroad, though. I was in France recently for a few months, and I totally dwarfed the little French dudes who wouldn't touch a dumbbell unless you drenched it in cheese. It took a bit more work there to meet some French girls, but that probably had something to do with the fact that I am an unapologetic Republican.

Exactly as I had suspected. Although women the world-over appreciate a fit body, the raw physicality that is so emphasized (so much so that men all over the country pump themselves full of chemicals and take drugs that shrink their balls) here in America isn't really as big of an issue in other places of the world - literally anywhere except N. America.


Elsewhere - Europe, Asia, Africa, Latin America - just having low bodyfat and a bit of muscle is considered perfection. A much more natural and appealing lifestyle and aesthetics, IMHO.

 

[MetalFortress]

Abbott, if you've never gone on a date or had a relationship, and you've been at this forum for almost 3 years, than there's something you're not telling us. Are you nothing more than a skinny jerk who never gets dates? What about BALLSY? How about a confident guy, with no need for insecurities about looks? If you have no confidence to go out and get what you want (which, unless you're asexual, would be a date/girlfriend), you need to start there.

Are you called an "ass" by chicks who are grinning or laughing when they say it, or by angry chicks?

 

[zentraveller]

I ran into some HUGE German guys at a club when I was battling it out for a blonde med student from Mainz. The strangest thing was how AFC they were. In fact, they were all incredibly nice guys and totally unlike the meat head jerks I'm used to here in the states.

I also remember a 6'3" German body builder who's the VP of sales for a software company. He became TERRIFIED when I asked him to wing some French broads with me. He said "I do not approach women. They approach me, or I go home alone."

 

[Abbott]

Originally posted by MetalFortress
Abbott, if you've never gone on a date or had a relationship, and you've been at this forum for almost 3 years, than there's something you're not telling us. Are you nothing more than a skinny jerk who never gets dates? What about BALLSY? How about a confident guy, with no need for insecurities about looks? If you have no confidence to go out and get what you want (which, unless you're asexual, would be a date/girlfriend), you need to start there.

I would like to think I'm confident, but at the same time I sometimes wonder why it is that at say, parties or whatever women almost seem to like my friends before they'll like me. To my knowledge, they've never been to this site, nor really tried to study why women do what they do. I thought of appearance because I can't really think of anything else. They're not more financially capable than I am, so I know it's not that.

I do know that I've said many a thing that few people would ever dare to say, so apparently I'm gutsy and confident enough to do that. Example:

Chick who I didn't like: I love you.
Me: I love me too.

Note: I still would've said the same thing, even if it was a chick that I did like.

Originally posted by MetalFortress
Are you called an "ass" by chicks who are grinning or laughing when they say it, or by angry chicks?

Hm...they may have been a little mad, but not angry. I do know that it's because I've said things that almost no man would say. Things that take a lot of confidence to say.

If anything, it's better than being called a NICE GUY, which I honestly haven't been called by any woman younger than 25 since Senior year of high school.

Ben

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by Abbott
I would like to think I'm confident, but at the same time I sometimes wonder why it is that at say, parties or whatever women almost seem to like my friends before they'll like me. To my knowledge, they've never been to this site, nor really tried to study why women do what they do. I thought of appearance because I can't really think of anything else. They're not more financially capable than I am, so I know it's not that.

That's because they are natural men; they don't have to put on a facade for women, they just be themselves, and women dig it. Are you putting up a facade or being you? To word it differently, are you "acting" or "being"?

Originally posted by Abbott

I do know that I've said many a thing that few people would ever dare to say, so apparently I'm gutsy and confident enough to do that. Example:

Chick who I didn't like: I love you.
Me: I love me too.

Note: I still would've said the same thing, even if it was a chick that I did like.

That's a pretty funny example. However, how you say what you say makes a big of an impact though as what you say. Did you get the reaction you expected?

Originally posted by Abbott

Hm...they may have been a little mad, but not angry. I do know that it's because I've said things that almost no man would say. Things that take a lot of confidence to say.

If anything, it's better than being called a NICE GUY, which I honestly haven't been called by any woman younger than 25 since Senior year of high school.

Ben

What sort of stuff did you say? There's a difference, anyways, between just being a jerk for the sake of being a jerk, and the kind of confidence that's meant to be learned from this page. I'm more likely to be called nice than an ass by chicks, but as long as you have confidence, and aren't "acting" nice just to get something, and aren't a doormat, it's no big deal.

 

[JT47319]

Originally posted by Abbott
I do know that I've said many a thing that few people would ever dare to say, so apparently I'm gutsy and confident enough to do that. Example:

Chick who I didn't like: I love you.
Me: I love me too.

I wouldn't call that ballsy and gutsy. I mean, it's a nice example of C&F, and something I myself have said before.

Without knowing too much of your friends, it could very well be their physical aspect which is overshadowing you.

I know when I go out with my good looking guy friends (male model types), then my Game HAS to be on top. I can't just be OK or even good that night, I have to be on fire.

I'm cute, but my looks don't get the ass grabs, random make outs, crotch touching, ga-ga deer-in-headlights effect that they elicit based sheerly on looks.

There are thing you can do to improve your looks and body, but it's up to you to decide to implemen them.

 

[zentraveller]

The culture of the city/country you're in can make a HUGE difference in terms of increasing/diminishing random (non-skill driven) make-outs and FCs.

To give you an example, I've never NOT hooked up while visiting Manhattan. I once had a very attractive blonde co-ed from Syracuse Univ. grab me on the dance floor...who I tongued her down in about 45 seconds, and she was begging to get F-closed in about 5 minutes while moaning in my ear. I particularly enjoyed her 3 male friends looking at me with hatred while this was taking place.

When I hit nightclubs in the North of Spain every weekend (back in my AFC days), I used to have Spanish chicks come and drag me to meet their girlfriend who fancied my look and style.

On the other hand, I've NEVER gotten this kind of automatic response in the state of California.

Go figure.

 

[Abbott]

Originally posted by MetalFortress
That's because they are natural men; they don't have to put on a facade for women, they just be themselves, and women dig it. Are you putting up a facade or being you? To word it differently, are you "acting" or "being"?

No facade. I don't think about how I'd have to be different when I know women will be around. I'm just me.

Originally posted by MetalFortress
That's a pretty funny example. However, how you say what you say makes a big of an impact though as what you say. Did you get the reaction you expected?

Yup. And I was 99.99% sure that wasn't the kind of response they were expecting.

Originally posted by MetalFortress
What sort of stuff did you say? There's a difference, anyways, between just being a jerk for the sake of being a jerk, and the kind of confidence that's meant to be learned from this page.

I honestly can't remember all that I have said, since I'm not exactly a human voice recorder. If someone does something that I don't like, I'll demonstrate that I'm in control, instead of losing it. However, I don't make a point of being the nastiest jerk around. It's not my style. Examples:

Some person: <insult to Ben/Abbott, or some other comment that might make me look bad.>

Me: <ignore it, sitting or standing there in a cool and collected manner>
- OR -
Me: <Says something that really sets them in their place>

A couple more detailed examples:

Video Game Nerd: Ha ha ...you got OWNED (like after a multiplayer video game)

Me: Just how many hours a day do you play? 5? 10? Also, is there even ONE video game system you don't own?


Some guy: I bet that Ben's/Abbott's a virgin.

Me: <I didn't have a good comeback, so I just sit there like nothing happened.>

You get the idea.

Originally posted by MetalFortress
I'm more likely to be called nice than an ass by chicks, but as long as you have confidence, and aren't "acting" nice just to get something, and aren't a doormat, it's no big deal.

I don't do any of those things...it's not my style. I'm the MAN who's in control.

I also do certain things such as open doors, but that's just how I am and what I do (and because I feel like it), not because I feel like I have to do it in order to get some chick.

Plus, acting is a pain in the ass, and being a doormat just makes you feel like crap, as well as makes you seem "less" or not as "good" to other people. So therefore, I don't do those things.

Originally posted by zentraveller The culture of the city/country you're in can make a HUGE difference in terms of increasing/diminishing random (non-skill driven) make-outs and FCs.

To give you an example, I've never NOT hooked up while visiting Manhattan. I once had a very attractive blonde co-ed from Syracuse Univ. grab me on the dance floor...who I tongued her down in about 45 seconds, and she was begging to get F-closed in about 5 minutes while moaning in my ear. I particularly enjoyed her 3 male friends looking at me with hatred while this was taking place.

When I hit nightclubs in the North of Spain every weekend (back in my AFC days), I used to have Spanish chicks come and drag me to meet their girlfriend who fancied my look and style.

On the other hand, I've NEVER gotten this kind of automatic response in the state of California.

Go figure.

Hm...... I wonder how Central Illinois, where I live, stacks up.

Ah well...can't do anything about that, so I guess I just won't worry about it!

Ben

 

[jakethasnake]

I'm telling you Abbott - it's that 5 foot 7, 120 pound body of yours. A buck-twenty - that's how much it weighs. Just think about it.


Trust me - just keep your current confidence/C&F level - and work your way up gradually over the course of the year to 150-160 pounds in lean muscle. I guarantee you the chicks will be rubbing your pecs, arms, and back like you were a lucky charm.


Use this:


www.skinnyguy.net