Beware the "Life Coach"

[9Volt]

Okay do you care to share in FULL DETAILS with the forum, what exactly is this portfolio that you are using? I would love to know the full details on what's in it, how you structured it, etc.

From there, I can do my own individual analysis privately.

Ponzi's "portfolio" consists of the money his relatives put on his books while he was doing his bid using his "investments" in purchasing Lil' Debbies snack cakes at the prison canteen to scarf down while researching new scams in the big house library. Lot's of time to read books and learn them fancy words. Ponzi experienced his first "mental paradigm shift" when he got 30 days in the joint's ad-seg.

 

[Serenity]

Can't help but notice the Youtube ads from all the "life coaches" popping up when I try to watch a video lately.

These guys (Tai Lopez, Corey Wayne, Tony Robbins, Brandon Burchard, Deepak Chopra) are a dime a dozen and all share similar traits and tactics.

1. An unproven rags to riches story.
$47 in my bank account to managing 10 multi-million dollar companies, bankrupt to 4.2 million in 18 months. (Meanwhile in the case of Tai Lopez, he's a proven fraud as he rents all his homes and cars)

2. Pearly white teeth
For some reason all of these people spent $10,000 on a perfect smile of porcelain, the same material your toilet is made out of

3. Few or no credentials
These guys rarely have actual degrees in psychology or science (Chopra does) but still make wild, outlandish claims about the nature of human psychology. They are basically psychologists who just happened to not go to school for psychology.

4. Wildly overpriced products
Corey Wayne, who is lauded on this forum, charges $1,000 an hour for a Skype session. In it, he gives you questionable and even counter-productive advice that you could exceed just by reading this forum. Tai Lopez charges $67 PER MONTH to regurgitate very long stories full of hot air.

5. Smarmy aura and tactics
All these guys offer a free sample of some sort, a money back guarantee, use fake testimonials on their website, and are very off-putting with their faux positivity.

6. Lack of content
It's all cliches and hot air. Nothing but vague generalities about "believing in yourself", "as you think you shall become", "setting goals every day" as though a poor person in the hood or in a trailer can just start to believe really hard and a million dollars will appear.

They prey on gullible, vulnerable people with sheep mentalities. You can watch footage from their seminars where people just jump around in place and scream like idiots, or in Tony Robbins' case walk across hot coals to demonstrate some sort of metaphor about overcoming fear.

There are a FEW exceptions to this rule. You will occasionally find sound advice with raw data and numbers. Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kyosaki comes to mind. In it he teaches you the fundamentals of real estate and passive income. So before you purchase, do your homework. Skim the book if you have it in front of you or read the negative reviews before you purchase online to see what real customers are saying.

In short, screw these scam artists. Don't give them your money.

Good day.

Pfffffff. If anyone did their fvcking homework they wouldn't need to pay these guys at all. Doing the homework IS the wisdom that is superior to all other wisdom, life coaches would be unemployed if people weren't blatantly ignorant.

Guys, all of you, don't pay for what you can learn from less than a day of Googling.

 

[guru1000]

You two--@BlueAlpha1 and @Tenacity--have strong analytical skills. Don't misuse or squander your potentiality. You guys are better than this.

 

[9Volt]

Ponzi is conceding defeat to @BlueAlpha1 and @Tenacity. Ponzi is all talk no action. Zero substance or actual proof. Just typed air-claims.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

Do you really think that you have stopped one single person from checking out "Coach Corey Wayne" because of making this thread?

Yes, I do.

The fact that you find preying on vulnerable people to the tune of $1,000 an hour for vague cliches acceptable is not my concern. I'm calling a spade a spade (or a scam artist a scam artist.)

There are plenty of people in this thread who've agreed with me, and maybe in the future a desperate newbie will come across this thread and pause before taking out these credit cards for these frauds. This thread has over 100 replies and 1000 views already. If I can save ONE guy (poster or reader) a thousand bucks, then the thread was worth it.

And not just Corey "Doc Love Ripoof" Wayne.
Tai "Rented Lomborghini" Lopez
Tony "Foot Burner" Robbins
Deepak "Woo Woo" Chopra.

I have no problem with CREDENTIALED individuals getting paid to give advice in his area of expertise. For instance, a FINANCIAL ADVISER giving advice on money. But being a life coach is not a real job because no one is an expert in money, fitness, psychology AND relationships. These people do not have the credentials in one area, much less all of them.

If anything, you've given him publicity.

The whole "no such thing as bad publicity" is largely nonsense and just another cliche. People take online reviews and testimonials very seriously.

For instance, everyone hates their wireless provider. If you get a bill from Verizon for $1000 and tell everyone you know, by your logic they'll all run out and switch to Verizon instantly. No, they'll avoid them like the plague.

 

[9Volt]

Incredible to me that Naughty Ninja on his 5th or 6th alt is still here and Poon King is perma banned...absolutely amazing.

You should have number closed your hero and gotten private phone consultations.

Yeah he provided some real "amazing advice". The kind that conflicted daily, generalized, plain mind numbing stupidity, anger, bitterness, resentment, jealousy, fairytales, among his true suspect sexual preference.

perhaps your god will start his own forum where he can preach to his choir of head nodding yes boys.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

You should have number closed your hero and gotten private phone consultations.

Yeah he provided some real "amazing advice". The kind that conflicted daily, generalized, plain mind numbing stupidity, anger, bitterness, resentment, jealousy, fairytales, among his true suspect sexual preference.

perhaps your god will start his own forum where he can preach to his choir of head nodding yes boys.

Brb. Just got back from day gaming, going sarging tonight. Gonna DHV the target while negging the fat HB4 c0ckblock with "the cube" story.

 

[guru1000]

Mods: @Desdinova @Atom Smasher @bradd80 @Skyline @Espi @El Payaso @TheVirtualMind

9Volt a/k/a NaughtyNinja is an obvious troll. But you elect to keep him here ... so ban me instead--and keep the troll. These are how your threads will turn:

Getting advice from legend/guru/Ponzi about finances is like getting advice from Matt Forney about fitness.

You're not an investor. You're a clown in stolen Armani suits.

What do you know about fitness, self-admitted 40 lbs overweight, obese, and unwillingly celibate since your BPD? A self-admitted 2.

Don't worry BlueBeta1, I'll buy you another XBox fat boy.

Lol, yes, I don't know what Guru's problem is with me bro?

- Tenacity posts pics of chicks he has been with, Guru responds: "Well, she's not a HB10 so she's worthless".

- Tenacity posts pics of his fitness progression, finally getting a 6 pack, Guru responds, "Well, you don't look like The Rock, so you're worthless."

- Tenacity details his current net worth, which all reports put me in the "high achiever" category at age 33 , but Guru responds, "Well, you don't have a $1 million net worth, so you're worthless."

- Tenacity details his plans from now until retirement, full of solid plans for career growth, more business investments, and passive investments, but Guru responds, "Well, you aren't flipping real estate nor doing day trading of stocks, so you're worthless."

- Tenacity posts pics of his new Red Hot Camaro on 24s, Guru responds, "Well, it's not a Bentley or Ferrari, so it's worthless."

Are you noticing a pattern here bro? I can't WIN with this Guru guy lol!

Hell, if I found the cure for Breast Cancer tomorrow and ran here on the forum to talk about my new discovery.....Guru would respond, "Well, it took you long enough to find the cure, so because you didn't find it sooner, you're worthless."

Man, you're too hard on yourself. I give you full respect after your efforts in this video.

Tenacity working out. Look at him go!

"I'd rather put it all on red and be a millionaire at 35 than take the steady path and get there 20 years later."

-BeTheChange

You hear this? Bet it all in red and become a millionaire! Whoever is not busy in the thread, fly to Florida and we'll go hit up the Roulette table at our casino and just become millionaires!

And if that doesn't work, we'll just "quit our jobs, follow our dreams and have a paradigm shift" and no doubt the millions will follow according to Tony Robbins.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MQYG1Z...&sr=8-1&keywords=the+pink+doughnut+phenomenon

Did you not admit your total net worth was 10k? You were saying?

Right and while he can certainly pursue that strategy, I think it's also valuable to list out the drawbacks/risks to said strategy. I mean there IS a chance that you can get over-leveraged, changes occur in the market, and you end up in a losing environment with BeTheChange's plan.

- With every investment (no matter if it's active or passive) there are risks.

- I think BeTheChange said earlier that my "path" had very low risks, well that can't be further from the truth? Since when is investing in Index Funds risk-free? Since when does running a consulting office come risk-free?

- There are risks to everything, the key here is investing in what you know and UNDERSTAND, so you can properly mitigate the risks and acquire the rewards.

Everybody does not understand day trading nor all of the nuisances of flipping real estate, those are two very complex investment strategies and there's no way in hell I would promote them to ANYBODY as being something that's "easy" to setup/manage, to where you can just work 2 hours a week making 1,200% - 3,000% returns. I mean give me a break.

They are complex instruments for chimpanzees, so keep grabbing those low-hanging bananas that we all know pikers like you just adore.

Oh ya, I forgot, we have different networks: I network with people.

Don't even bother with it bro. BeTheChange just admitted his strategy is "betting it all on red and becoming a millionaire by age 35". Well apparently this silly man has not heard of the house advantage, and I'm not just talking about roulette tables. The vast majority of people who invest in real estate and ESPECIALLY the market fail miserably. It is not for the weak at heart.

BeTheChange is just like my friend who is "finna be the greatest rapper who ever lived wit a 500 mil net worth". He swears he's going to be on Forbes 30 Under 30. Except it's all bloated rhetoric and there is no concrete plan. Becoming a millionaire by age 35 requires either:

A. An inheritance
B. A LOT of luck (winning the lotto or timing the right stock at the right time)
C. Once in a lifetime talent (physical, music, anything that will catapult you to celebrity status)

Let's say there's a 5% chance you come from a very rich family and may inherit the money, a 1% chance of ever winning a big pot of cash in one shot, and an 1% chance that your talent in one area is so great it'll make you rich. That's a 7% chance of making it big at a very young age, and that's ASSUMING you have the initial capitol to take that chance.

Now, only a FOOL would "bet the entire house on red" on the 1% chance of making a 10,000% ROI. This kind of mindset makes poor people go broke at casinos. "All I need to do is get the three fiery 7's one time and I'll be rich!"

The vast, vast, vast majority of people do it your way. And having a $1 million net worth by 45-50 is not mediocre. There are a million millionaires in the country, and 330 total people. That means only 1/330 Ameircans will become a millionaire in their lifetime, and it is an accomplishment. By definition, this cannot be mediocre. No one is saying to stop at a million, but that is a checkpoint very few people will ever see, so don't let these two cartoon characters say otherwise.

Of course, to a billionaire, even those at the low end of the 1% are "mediocre". To Bill Gates, an athlete with a $100 million net worth is mediocre. But Ponzi/legend/guru is no Bill Gates. He's playing a cartoon character on the internet.

These two clowns are get rich quick pedalers who are probably just a month away from dropping their own online course with the "proven steps", and are trying to convince their first potential clients (the readers of this thread) of their next "sales funnel" scheme.

You are criticizing a young man your age with a net worth 1000% higher than your own. Stick with the XBox talk instead. There you have bonafide experience and actual reference.

What I want to know is what percentage of these "gurus" (Robbins, Burchard, Corey Wayne) inherited a substantial amount of money that helped them get started.

All these "life coaches" have a rags to riches story about living in a trailer with $47 in their bank account and how they defied the odds. My question is WHO DIED shortly after? OF COURSE these guys are going to leave that detail out of their sales funnel pitches, but there's a great chance that's how many of them got started. Even Donald Trump, with a 4 billion net worth, attributes the "small loan of $1 million from my father" to the beginning of his success.

It's really not hard to grow money after you've started the game on 2nd or 3rd base. With $1 million principle and a mere $20,000 contribution annually, something that Tenacity could do RIGHT NOW, compounded daily at an APY of 2%, you'd double your money in just 20 years.

There are SAVINGS ACCOUNTS that are paying close to 2% dividends now. What does that mean? It means with 1m USD in the safest, lowest risk investment imaginable, you can double your money in 20 years.

The initial capital is the game changer. If you start with $500,000, you should be a millionaire in under 10 years. If you start with $250,000, you should be a millionaire before you reach retirement JUST on dividends with no annual addition.

I see. So diametrically, those who have no net worth like YOU, are stuck. Just another reason to fail and stuff your celibate face with twinkies. And you don't have to worry about reporting this post like you did to others you rat fvck.

Mods, if you delete this post which I have already copied, I will paste it right back into this thread. If you lock this thread, I will create another thread and paste it.

If you permit a troll like 9Volt to run amok in this forum, this is the type of quality to expect. So ban me and keep 9Volt now.

 

[ubercat]

I agree this guy has to go