So this day trading group could just be a way for the guy who runs it to basically front run the trades? I'd assume some of the people will use limit orders, but the majority probably just buy at market prices, so if you buy shares than put out a request for a few thousand people to put in buy orders, thats going to drive up the price and give the originator guaranteed profits?cordoncordon said:FLD's are pretty much a pump and dump. Kind of like a pyramid scheme. Just don't be the last one out.The few that I have been aware of have been quite sophisticated. To the point where one of the guys who orchastrated a few, goes by the name Monk, even had 'seminars' where people would pay to come and hear his wisdom and any tips he may have had, with the FLD's being some of those tips. He brought in buying groups and other promos as well, all to keep the buying flowing. But once those ended? The floor fell out and down she goes.
IFLM from what I understand is going to build a real company though, so it should be pretty safe.
Better than everyone else.
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Ronaldo this is what I was talking about though. Just come clean man. We all know we aren't who you say you are. That's ok. It you are trolling, good for you. If you are just a young kid bored and looking to have some fun, the same. But I KNOW you didn't do this with RIMM (now BBRY) haha. Why? Because the OS count with that stock is around 510 million shares. the float (or tradeable shares) is around 500 M. Even at $3, that means you would have had to buy at least a $billion (300 M shares x $3) worth of stock to make it a FLD play. Obviously you (or anyone) didnt do that.Ronaldo7 said:
Now, you could have bought shares back in 08' at $3 and done quite well for yourself, but it wasn't because of a type of "card counting" or "FLD" type of system. That is why a FLD type of play will really only work with penny stocks. Where you could buy up the entire float for a few hundred $K. There it can work. For a mid cap on the Nasdaq like RIMM? Unless you are Goldman Sachs or a large investment broker, its not going to happen. And even then you will have to start filing Form 13D SEC filing, which any person buying over 5% of a publicly traded companies OS count must do.
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Correct.synergy1 said:
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Finally, the thread is getting interesting.
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LOL "card counting". Now I know this is a trollolol for sure.
And damn, is he getting fed well here
And damn, is he getting fed well here
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sageproduct said:
O.P. A.K.A Rainman's not only getting well fed but, he's been letting out one long textual fart in his thread and just about every SoSuavers come for a whiff. When OP feels he has to go number two he sits at his computer and logs into his SS account. :moon:
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Show me EXACTLY WHERE I SAID i made the 20k FROM RIM. I said i recently made a profit from those shares. I never said the 20k came from there. If you actually took time to read my gospel, you would understand. I'm not competing with you on stocks. 20k isnt going to ruin me or make me.cordoncordon said:
@sageproduct: I know you must have a hard time at your average job to cost your average life. If you weren't so average, you would have understood that "counting cards" was a simple metaphor. It isn't actually counting cards, it's the METHOD.
@NN: I haven't been on this forum before. I don't know who you are confusing me with and i don't respond to any of those names you listed. Props on being 43, almost 50, and still on an internet forum.
Props on being an arrogant bastard and making general stereotypes about people. If you are failing with girls, it's because you are a truly despicable person who treats everyone like trash when you are the trash yourself.Ronaldo7 said:
not as pathetic as some kid who lives at his parents house who pretends to be some card counting day trader who wants people to believe everyone is intimidated by him. By the way, there are quite a few numbers between 43 and 50 - so rather than brag about fractions, you might want to hit the kindergarten books and re-learn the base 10 counting system.Ronaldo7 said:
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Haha. I'm not arrogant, i'm just honest. I'm not failing with anyone. I came here seeking help on how to approach. I'm not despicable in any way. I simply know that people serve a purpose for me and that there is a time when they should be thrown away aka when you are done with them.nroug7 said:
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Renaldo...i hope that you realize with this mindset of using people and throwing them away after they have served their purpose no real woman of actual value is going to like you.....sure you will attract plenty of superficial bimbos, BDPs and sociopaths (majority of women) that feel challenged by you, but the real women who are actually worth a relationship and not just being a FB or plate, and who are very rare by the way, will not waste a second on you with your attitude towards people in general. This is fine if you just want sex, but you will never obtain anything more with anyone who is actually worth something. This goes for guy friends as well. You may say it's okay, but you are in for a lonely existence.
You are arrogant beyond belief, People are not trash to be thrown away, As someone who takes a leading role within my social circles, some people could be considered "Under me" - I choose to not think of them like this, they are my cohort, my allies who I can call to my support, I respect the fact that they see me as a "Leader"Ronaldo7 said:
And where the fvck does honesty come into this? Do you tell people "look mate, I'm gonna be your friend (If male) of fvckbuddy (If female) then treat you like sh1t when I no longer need you."
You, are a partially insane, despicable, person.
You should take no pride in yourself, you are worthless trash and your success is short termed (If real) and probably built upon a false foundation (Your families wealth, not yours.)
You should feel ashamed of yourself.
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A girl you want to chase
And you neg hit in her face
She gets stung!
(queue next verse)
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Honesty comes from the fact that i'm not arrogant. I'm just honest and i say what i want. The difference is that i only care about myself and no one else. You care about others and that's why you can't see people the way i do. When i have no use for someone, what would be the point/reason to keep them around? I don't necessarily tell them that because it isn't in my best interest. I just let them find out for themselves laternroug7 said:
. Well, thinking of it, i have done that with a girl that was fwb. Who cares though? She is just good for sex. It sounds pretty stupid when you say that about a female when this is what this forum is all about.I take a lot of pride in who i am and what i've become. I never tried to hide the fact that my only goal is to the be the best.
@Zinc: I think you already mentioned this. I think i already told you that i'm only looking to hit it and quit it, didn't i? A relationship isn't something i would want because i simply have no time for the feelings, the emotions, and all the periods that come with it. Those "very rare women who are worth it" will still bang me though. That is all i care about.
You don't understand that i essentially can play to women looking for something real and the fwb. I have the ability to be a gentleman, tell her i want a relationship too, and charm her into believing im what she is looking for. This is all in order to obtain what i want. In life, we must do this we don't like in order to achieve what we like. Fwb is easier because i hold no real feelings to any woman. It's like a routine/job. It doesn't hold any affection to you. Guy friends are your pawns. Use them wisely, have a circle, and dispose of those that you don't need anymore. Rinse and repeat.
All you wanted to know was how to approach.. What the hell, man? Even a 3rd grader knows this. Just going up to a certain and start talking is basically it. Don't worry about the outcome, because it's going to be good anyway! (According to you, that is). Is that really so hard? Also, I admire your confidence... in a way, though. You are contradicting yourself. You don't need a suit, because you already have confidence, right? Who cares about what you wear! Since you have confidence, you can go pick up girls in your pink tanktop and some black cut-off shorts with cvm-stains on them from the awesome night before with some lucky lady. Go out, and don't come back here since obviously you don't need the help provided by the brothers here.
Oh I see, you are not a Don Juan, you are the typical jerk, you can't pick quality friends (otherwise you would not dispose of them) and you probably cycle through the same women most jerks before you have.
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