Yes it baffels me as well, 1 hour to me seems like nothing, it's usually about 2 hours long or maybe a bit under, quads/hams and bis/tris are definitely two hours though. I think maybe when you don't train to failure and whatnot you can just breeze through exercises without fatigue. But for me, I have to feel like I've achieved something when I leave.Kerpal said:
You can do what you like mate, but it's not a miracle cure, it's just a list of what to do. Gaining mass and strength takes a long time. IMO if you're on a routine and gaining, just stick to it, then consider changing things when you plateau psychologically or physically.yungahdubz said:
Yeah right!! I've trained with guys on drugs, they can put on muscle and not even go to the gym. It's like going through puberty again but extreme. Even when going through puberty you put on good muscle without going to the gym.Mad Manic said:
If you think the guys at the Mr O are natural, you need to wake up and step into the REAL WORLD.Mad Manic said:
LOL whatever, nice way to discredit those who train using roids whilst you stick with your 13" guns and just say steroids are the reason for success.wolf116 said:
LOL coming from the guy who thinks guys who take roids can add appreciable muscle without training.wolf116 said:
Yes if you're young and full of hormones roids converts it into eostrogen, looks like you're the one who needs research.wolf116 said:
I think you need to read better. I said they are overated and diet, training and sleep are the main factors. I also said at my stage they are uneessary as my hormone levels are high enough without the need of steroids. Just as you said I'm not aware of what these guys take, neither are you. Drugs work when used corretly, and that includes using them at the right times in appropriate does. It is prefectly possible to get huge with no drugs, and also possible to take drugs with little benefit.Omen said:
That's impossible, for example in that day I outlined there is over an hour of JUST warm ups, rest periods and time to change weights. That doesn't include the time spent actually LIFTING the weights. Plus I train at the school gym so I have to wait for people to finish using stuff sometimes, which can add even more time to the total.wolf116 said:
I've never been one to discredit anabolic uses as I will be using them myself in a year or so. You have to know what you are doing and train fvcken hard if you want to keep your gains after a cycle. As for my guns, I have no idea, but I am over 90kgs lean.Mad Manic said:
Think it's too early for you to be considering using roids in a year's time. You need to use minimal amounts only when your natural potential is reached so that you don't end up messing your body up and making it dependant on higher doses. Maybe when you're 23-24, start to consider it.wolf116 said:
LOL, just eat a bit more, hardly AAS worthy ... keep mass, 90 kg leanish isn't exactly hard to keep is it? As I said people use roids way too early, end up upping and upping dosages then by the time they have some mass, they can't improve because they need higher and higher dosages that causes health problems.shaunuk said:
Are you sure about only warming up for the first exercise? What if you are doing something like deadlift - bench press - power clean? I suppose you could skip the warm ups for the power cleans since deadlifts use all the same muscles and are a similar movement, but don't you need to warm up your upper body separately? I do like to do a warm up for power cleans anyway though, since it is so dependent on technique, I like to practice the movement a few times with a lighter weight before I start my work sets.wolf116 said:
I think you have outgrown that program. Time to move to split training. That is a beginners program and is grown out of very quickly.Kerpal said:
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