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[self_is_an_illusion]

Are you trolling?

I am not trolling. I’m serious when I say your checklist reduces real people to targets. It does not even occur to you that you’re stripping away everyone’s humanity because you’ve been taught to see women as problems to solve. If it reads like a joke it is only because you have no framework for seeing respect and consent as more important than “game.” This is not about technique it is about your mindset. You can keep pretending it is coaching but until you question why you objectify others every interaction will feel hollow and you will never learn anything real.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Sounds good. The women that are there closer to closing time are usually the ones who are there to meet somebody.



I probably wouldn't bother with the street. You might be seen as a nuisance for getting between them and their destination rather than talking to them AT the destination.



Overall, it sounds good. Personally, I don't like the word "cute", as it sounds a bit childish - I like the word "gorgeous". It's not nearly as trashy as "hot" or "sexy" and has some class to it while not being as overly invested as calling her "beautiful" or something. Just don't get caught up in talking too much to fill the silence. If an interaction is going well, don't talk, just do fun sh** - take a shot together, bring her to the floor to dance, go in for the kiss, etc. Basically, try not to talk yourself out of a lay because you don't know she's interested in you and wants you to make a move.



If that happens and the girl you like doesn't make any effort to intervene/stop the friend/continue talking to you, then just let it happen. She's probably not interested enough, and even if she is that friend will be a headache all the way to the bedroom - if you even make it that far.



You don't have to do anything crazy when it comes to clothes - just wear things that fit you snugly without being too tight or too small, and you should be fine, so long as you're not sporting K-Mark brand shoes or something. 90% of the time, my outfit consists of a well-fitted solid tee shirt (usually black) with no logos, straight jeans, a thin gold neck chain, and a clean pair of Nike Air Jordans.

I can't really speak on the hair because I'm white, and I don't do anything special with mine, so as long as what you're doing works for you.

It sounds like you would benefit most from tightening up your diet and exercise routine. What I do is extremely stringent, but I can share it if you want. Otherwise, intermittent fasting, eating at a caloric deficit, going to the gym 3-5x per week, and doing 20 minutes of cardio per day would probably do you wonders very fast.



Ok, good, we're here to f*** girls we want, not hit an approach quota.



Well that's everybody. As you saw in my other thread, I'm failing plenty and need to find some successes since my FWBs all kinda fell off at the same time. That'll come with time and exposure.



One thing you could do to get comfortable being solo without a wing is to become a regular at 1 or 2 of your favorite spots that regularly have the kinda girls you're looking for. Befriend the bouncers, the managers, the bartenders, whoever. I did this unintentionally by being friends with the manager at that local college bar from back when I attended school there, and he would let me skip the lines any time he was working. I got to know the bartenders who worked those days and would frequently tip them well - now I quite literally have to throw my money at them for them to take it, and I'm often served before all others if they see me waiting. Beyond that, the fact that I was always skipping the lines meant the bouncers began recognizing my face and got to know who I was, so a lot of times I could skip the line without even having to let my manager friend know I was there.

Basically I'm saying to make friends at the places you're going to be, because it is some serious social proof when girls see you get served before them and watch the bartenders reject your money. Plus, since you're in a bigger city, you'll have options - unlike me with the college bar.

Personally, I'd only consider Thursday - Saturday as being worth going out, but if you're getting results on those other days and can afford that frequency, keep doing what you're doing. Just make sure you're not focusing too hard on this and neglecting other important aspects of your life.

As far as your verbals and bringing women home, picking up on those cues will come with time. You'll get blown out a lot, and you'll get maybes a lot, but it's really important you know how to recognize a sure thing so you don't ruin it by taking things too slow. I've recounted this story before, but I saw a really gorgeous girl moving through the crowd with her friend one time a few years back and stopped her to tell her I thought she was gorgeous. She stopped, let her friend go on without her, sat down with me, and gave me a longing silent stare any time I was talking. I recognized this, so I went for the kiss early, to which she was super receptive, then asked if I wanted to leave with her. This entire interaction lasted maybe 20 minutes - I remember because until I saw her, I wasn't interested in anybody and invited an old FWB to meet me at the bar (she wasn't happy when she got to the bar, and I told her I'd already left). So, learn to recognize and take yes for an answer.

Beyond that, it just sounds like you need to work on your physical appearance. It sounds like you're in an OK place, but you'll probably improve your results fastest just by presenting yourself better to these women - I think that's what will have the greatest ROI for you.

This was awesome. I’d say I basically agree with everything you said here, although a fair number of the pulls I’ve had have actually been from the street outside the club. Although that is a more European thing.

I remember you mentioning that your diet was very strict before, but I’d be interested to know what you’re eating and how you’re training these days.

As for me; I’ve been pretty much locked into keto. Diet wise, I’m creating a large deficit by doing that but lowering my dietary fat down. It’ll be chicken breast(of course), eye of round lean steaks, Greek Yogurt, 96/4 lean ground beef, and CarbMaster Milk + Sweetener for my Ninja Creami pints, vegetables and olive oil. Plus getting the lifts in so that I maintain muscle along with the cardio.

My target is to lose 25 lbs in 4 months.

So my priorities until my lease is up need to be getting this weight off and going out every day. That should put me in a much better spot and give me some results.

I was chatting with @SW15 a bit about this, but going out every day, even just 30 mins to do some day approaches, is actually quite difficult. Your time management needs to be a 100/100. One slip up, and you’re not getting out that day. (I’m simultaneously working two jobs to save money because the layoffs are REALLY bad right now.)

 

[BPH]

This was awesome. I’d say I basically agree with everything you said here, although a fair number of the pulls I’ve had have actually been from the street outside the club. Although that is a more European thing.

I remember you mentioning that your diet was very strict before, but I’d be interested to know what you’re eating and how you’re training these days.

As for me; I’ve been pretty much locked into keto. Diet wise, I’m creating a large deficit by doing that but lowering my dietary fat down. It’ll be chicken breast(of course), eye of round lean steaks, Greek Yogurt, 96/4 lean ground beef, and CarbMaster Milk + Sweetener for my Ninja Creami pints, vegetables and olive oil. Plus getting the lifts in so that I maintain muscle along with the cardio.

My target is to lose 25 lbs in 4 months.

So my priorities until my lease is up need to be getting this weight off and going out every day. That should put me in a much better spot and give me some results.

I was chatting with @SW15 a bit about this, but going out every day, even just 30 mins to do some day approaches, is actually quite difficult. Your time management needs to be a 100/100. One slip up, and you’re not getting out that day. (I’m simultaneously working two jobs to save money because the layoffs are REALLY bad right now.)

Are you working out, or just doing the diet?

As for what I eat, I don't expect people to actually have the discipline to follow this but I'll post it just in case you want to give it a try:

• Meal 1 - 9:00AM
  • 1 cup oats
  • 1 tbps peanut butter
  • 8oz almond milk, blended together as a shake
• Meal 2 - 1:00PM
  • 8oz chicken
  • 1 cup broccoli
• Meal 3 - 5:00PM
  • 8oz tuna
  • 1 cup white rice
• Meal 4 - 8:00PM
  • 8oz chicken
  • 1 cup broccoli
• Meal 5 - 12:00AM
  • 8oz chicken
  • 1 cup white rice
• Meal 6 - 2:00AM
  • 8oz fat-free yogurt

I do this every single day at roughly the same times. The important part is spacing meals out between 3-4 hours, depending on when you have availability. You can season the chicken and flavor the rice and stuff, but this is the basic gist. Currently, this puts me at 218lbs at 6ft tall while exercising for about 1-1.5 hours 4x a week and finishing with 20 minutes of cardio 4x a week.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Are you working out, or just doing the diet?

As for what I eat, I don't expect people to actually have the discipline to follow this but I'll post it just in case you want to give it a try:

• Meal 1 - 9:00AM
  • 1 cup oats
  • 1 tbps peanut butter
  • 8oz almond milk, blended together as a shake
• Meal 2 - 1:00PM
  • 8oz chicken
  • 1 cup broccoli
• Meal 3 - 5:00PM
  • 8oz tuna
  • 1 cup white rice
• Meal 4 - 8:00PM
  • 8oz chicken
  • 1 cup broccoli
• Meal 5 - 12:00AM
  • 8oz chicken
  • 1 cup white rice
• Meal 6 - 2:00AM
  • 8oz fat-free yogurt

I do this every single day at roughly the same times. The important part is spacing meals out between 3-4 hours, depending on when you have availability. You can season the chicken and flavor the rice and stuff, but this is the basic gist. Currently, this puts me at 218lbs at 6ft tall while exercising for about 1-1.5 hours 4x a week and finishing with 20 minutes of cardio 4x a week.

Yeah you weren’t kidding, that is pretty strict, but sounds like it’s working well.

How do you cook the chicken personally?

I’ve been doing keto and 2 full body lifts a week up to this point. I need to increase that, and add in cardio like you suggested as well.

 

[BPH]

Yeah you weren’t kidding, that is pretty strict, but sounds like it’s working well.

How do you cook the chicken personally?

I’ve been doing keto and 2 full body lifts a week up to this point. I need to increase that, and add in cardio like you suggested as well.

The first chicken and tuna meals are at work, so they're canned.

The latter 2 chicken meals I usually oven-roast and get them pre-seasoned from a grocery store. Low sodium.

 

[Dr_jitsu]

Immersion. I usually cold approach in the day time. After doing 20 or so, the nervousness should mostly go away. You'll always be a little nervous, and that's because you have to watch out for a potential boyfriend, family member, a friend, store manager, etc.




Granted I have not been anywhere near successful in the last year, but I would not force anything. I just have conversations and see how the conversational flow goes.

I have also found that 20 is the magic number. It gets easier after that. Also, your mindset must embrace failure. Think of every no as a step closer to a yes. Even once you get good, you will only actually open maybe 4 out of 10 women you approach. Out of those 4 you may only get 1 phone number. So you must already accept and embrace the fact that you will be unsuccessful 90% of the time. In reality eventually you will do better than this, but accept it as a baseline.

But if you are objective, failure means absolutely nothing. If you approach and fail, are you any worse off than if you did not approach? No. In. fact if you don't even try you will always be haunted by what ifs....what if I had approached her???

In reality you will eventually get better. Lets say you get 2 numbers for every 10 approaches. If you approach 30 women a month (which you should be doing) then you will be getting 6 phone numbers a month. From those 6 you may only get 2-3 dates. But that number will build. Maybe only 1 in 3 dates go well, but eventually you will build a solid rotation. Your confidence will soar and you will develop a mindset of abundance.

In turn approaching and opening will become easier and more natural. More success will follow. Don't be afraid to use canned game if and when you need it.

BPH gives some excellent advice. Are you doing everything you can to improve your looks, your clothes...shoes are huge. Are you hitting the gym, eating well, sleeping?

 

[Dr_jitsu]

Are you trolling?

Ignore self_is_an_illusion. Seriously. Complete mental sinkhole that is stalking you and derailing your progress. I recommend blocking he/she/him/they/her (or whatever pronoun I am sure they use).

I have also found that 20 is the magic number. It gets easier after that. Also, your mindset must embrace failure. Think of every no as a step closer to a yes. Even once you get good, you will only actually open maybe 4 out of 10 women you approach. Out of those 4 you may only get 1 phone number. So you must already accept and embrace the fact that you will be unsuccessful 90% of the time. In reality eventually you will do better than this, but accept it as a baseline.

But if you are objective, failure means absolutely nothing. If you approach and fail, are you any worse off than if you did not approach? No. In. fact if you don't even try you will always be haunted by what ifs....what if I had approached her???

In reality you will eventually get better. Lets say you get 2 numbers for every 10 approaches. If you approach 30 women a month (which you should be doing) then you will be getting 6 phone numbers a month. From those 6 you may only get 2-3 dates. But that number will build. Maybe only 1 in 3 dates go well, but eventually you will build a solid rotation. Your confidence will soar and you will develop a mindset of abundance.

In turn approaching and opening will become easier and more natural. More success will follow. Don't be afraid to use canned game if and when you need it.

BPH gives some excellent advice. Are you doing everything you can to improve your looks, your clothes...shoes are huge. Are you hitting the gym, eating well, sleeping?

Are you trolling?

Alright, let's figure this out.

Get specific:

• How late at night are you making these approaches?
• Are you literally approaching these girls on the street while they're walking to and fro? Or are you talking to girls in the bars and clubs?
• What are you saying to these girls? What are they saying to you in response?
• What are the friends in these groups doing/saying when you approach the one you want?
• Are you attractive? By this I mean you're dressing well, you're tall or at least not short, you're fit or muscular, still have your hair, don't have f***ed up teeth, some other physical disability that might be impeding you
• Are you going after girls you're actually interested in or are you just trying to get more reps?
• Are you really getting blown out a bunch or are you just overanalyzing and focusing on a few failures that demoralizes you?
• What do you think is going wrong?

You are so very far along the path to becoming successful. You have done a tremendous amount of the hard foundational work needed to become a winner with women. I was exactly where you are right now on my journey. I bet in a years time I can have you running a 2-3 rotation of high quality gals.

 

[nicksaiz65]

The first chicken and tuna meals are at work, so they're canned.

The latter 2 chicken meals I usually oven-roast and get them pre-seasoned from a grocery store. Low sodium.

Not to derail this into a fitness thread, but…

I like how simple the diet is. I was meal prepping a week out and making fancier recipes every weekend while doing vanilla keto, and that was enough to get the first 20 off.

But I’m starting to think it will be easier on me to lock in if I eat the same handful of meals over the next few months to really shred the weight off: the biggest bang for my buck game wise like you were saying. I’ll keep the meal prepping because there’s just no time to cook during the week. It would be easier on me to prep during the weekend too.

Chicken breast, lean eye of round steak, extra lean ground beef, some cod here and there in my cod ceviche, so on and so forth.

Since I a ton of chicken breast… I’ve locked in some low cal high protein sauces to make it enjoyable. I’m loving this Greek Yogurt Ranch I make and this creamy buffalo sauce made with 0% Fat Cottage Cheese. I like how you have Greek Yogurt and Cottage Cheese in the plan, they’re some of my favorite foods.

http://imgur.com/a/0PcCpnP

http://imgur.com/a/m573Qp9

 

[BPH]

Not to derail this into a fitness thread, but…

I like how simple the diet is. I was meal prepping a week out and making fancier recipes every weekend while doing vanilla keto, and that was enough to get the first 20 off.

But I’m starting to think it will be easier on me to lock in if I eat the same handful of meals over the next few months to really shred the weight off: the biggest bang for my buck game wise like you were saying. I’ll keep the meal prepping because there’s just no time to cook during the week. It would be easier on me to prep during the weekend too.

Chicken breast, lean eye of round steak, extra lean ground beef, some cod here and there in my cod ceviche, so on and so forth.

Since I a ton of chicken breast… I’ve locked in some low cal high protein sauces to make it enjoyable. I’m loving this Greek Yogurt Ranch I make and this creamy buffalo sauce made with 0% Fat Cottage Cheese. I like how you have Greek Yogurt and Cottage Cheese in the plan, they’re some of my favorite foods.

http://imgur.com/a/0PcCpnP

I mean I'm pretty lazy with it, because I've been eating the same stuff for years.

You can get away with eating the meats all canned; 1 Brookdale canned chicken is 8oz drained, and 2 cans of Northern Light chunk light tuna cans are 8oz drained.

I get the steam packs of broccoli cus I got tired of chopping it up so often, my almond milk is unsweetened vanilla flavor, as is my yogurt. And I spray some butter-flavored spray and mix that into my rice along with garlic salt and MCT oil (joint health since my diet is so low in fat).

 

[nicksaiz65]

I have also found that 20 is the magic number. It gets easier after that. Also, your mindset must embrace failure. Think of every no as a step closer to a yes. Even once you get good, you will only actually open maybe 4 out of 10 women you approach. Out of those 4 you may only get 1 phone number. So you must already accept and embrace the fact that you will be unsuccessful 90% of the time. In reality eventually you will do better than this, but accept it as a baseline.

But if you are objective, failure means absolutely nothing. If you approach and fail, are you any worse off than if you did not approach? No. In. fact if you don't even try you will always be haunted by what ifs....what if I had approached her???

In reality you will eventually get better. Lets say you get 2 numbers for every 10 approaches. If you approach 30 women a month (which you should be doing) then you will be getting 6 phone numbers a month. From those 6 you may only get 2-3 dates. But that number will build. Maybe only 1 in 3 dates go well, but eventually you will build a solid rotation. Your confidence will soar and you will develop a mindset of abundance.

In turn approaching and opening will become easier and more natural. More success will follow. Don't be afraid to use canned game if and when you need it.

BPH gives some excellent advice. Are you doing everything you can to improve your looks, your clothes...shoes are huge. Are you hitting the gym, eating well, sleeping?

Very inspiring stuff. And yes, it’s great advice.

The main thing in looks will just be me leaning down. I’ve bought a lot of new clothes and shoes already. I’m happy with where my hair is at and I have a maintenance routine that I can adhere to and doesn’t take a long time.

I’ve been lifting twice a week up until now but I’ll increase that.

I always get 7 hours a night or more, because if I get less than that my mental goes significantly down. ESPECIALLY at work.

 

[Dr_jitsu]

Very inspiring stuff. And yes, it’s great advice.

The main thing in looks will just be me leaning down. I’ve bought a lot of new clothes and shoes already. I’m happy with where my hair is at and I have a maintenance routine that I can adhere to and doesn’t take a long time.

I’ve been lifting twice a week up until now but I’ll increase that.

I always get 7 hours a night or more, because if I get less than that my mental goes significantly down. ESPECIALLY at work.

Sounds like you are on track, my friend. Try to get that lifting up to 4 days a week, although some do well on a 3 day program.

I too just picked up several [pairs of new boots. Can't overestimate the importance of footwear when it comes to appealing to women.

 

[Dr_jitsu]

I mean I'm pretty lazy with it, because I've been eating the same stuff for years.

You can get away with eating the meats all canned; 1 Brookdale canned chicken is 8oz drained, and 2 cans of Northern Light chunk light tuna cans are 8oz drained.

I get the steam packs of broccoli cus I got tired of chopping it up so often, my almond milk is unsweetened vanilla flavor, as is my yogurt. And I spray some butter-flavored spray and mix that into my rice along with garlic salt and MCT oil (joint health since my diet is so low in fat).

I have had very good results with intermittent fasting. Just make sure I get really good meals around my training window.

 

[Sega Genesis]

Meal 3 - 5:00PM

• 8oz tuna
• 1 cup white rice

@BPH just wondering, are you at all concerned about the high mercury levels in tuna?

I would love to eat tuna every day but I've read and heard that eating tuna more than 2-3 times per week at most can be quite hazardous to one's health.

One woman posted on SM that she ate tuna every day for three weeks and got mercury poisoning and had to hospitalized for two weeks!

Obviously it doesn't affect you which is great! You feel great and look great!

Just wondering if you're at all concerned about it. I'm a bit of a health nut lol which is why I ask.

Or maybe I simply need to stop believing everything I read on SM and the internet!

 

[BPH]

@BPH just wondering, are you at all concerned about the high mercury levels in tuna?

I would love to eat tuna every day but I've read and heard that eating tuna more than 2-3 times per week at most can be quite hazardous to one's health.

One woman posted on SM that she ate tuna every day for three weeks and got mercury poisoning and had to hospitalized for two weeks!

Obviously it doesn't affect you which is great! You feel great and look great!

Just wondering if you're at all concerned about it. I'm a bit of a health nut lol which is why I ask.

Or maybe I simply need to stop believing everything I read on SM and the internet!

I've been sticking to this diet for several years now and haven't had any issues. The diet was assigned to me by a former natural competitive bodybuilder who is my trainer. I check in with him once a month to do a weigh-in and evaluate whether anything needs to change with my diet and exercise.

I did bring up the tuna concern to him before, he was not worried. I used to have 2 of those tuna meals per day, but he said if I was concerned about mercury that I could reduce it to the one meal I have now.

I am neither a dietitian or nutritionist so I'm not going to pretend to know better, and a physical to check my mercury levels probably wouldn't hurt - but I have no reason to believe it's affecting me negatively.

I have had very good results with intermittent fasting. Just make sure I get really good meals around my training window.

This is what I did prior to my diet listed above. It changed when I got brought on by a modeling agency and had to meet certain measurements, which is when I met my trainer. I just stuck to it ever since because it was one less thing I had to think about on a daily basis, but intermittent fasting is a great way for people to generally adopt healthier eating habits without sacrificing their sanity.

 

[Dr_jitsu]

I've been sticking to this diet for several years now and haven't had any issues. The diet was assigned to me by a former natural competitive bodybuilder who is my trainer. I check in with him once a month to do a weigh-in and evaluate whether anything needs to change with my diet and exercise.

I did bring up the tuna concern to him before, he was not worried. I used to have 2 of those tuna meals per day, but he said if I was concerned about mercury that I could reduce it to the one meal I have now.

I am neither a dietitian or nutritionist so I'm not going to pretend to know better, and a physical to check my mercury levels probably wouldn't hurt - but I have no reason to believe it's affecting me negatively.



This is what I did prior to my diet listed above. It changed when I got brought on by a modeling agency and had to meet certain measurements, which is when I met my trainer. I just stuck to it ever since because it was one less thing I had to think about on a daily basis, but intermittent fasting is a great way for people to generally adopt healthier eating habits without sacrificing their sanity.

I tend to eat a lot at night after I train. I am lucky in that my wife cooks nearly every night. She started cooking very clean years ago. The starter reason was for my son's wrestling, he had to be lean for his sport. We just continued eating that way.

Prior to that, I was a competitive bodybuilder. Done 17 shows, won a couple, made a failed run at a pro card. I had a mostly clean history of eating. Just now that I am old I have less appetite and retain fat much more readily, so hence the I fasting.

So, modeling agency....body count of 98, aggressive and consistent opening. It is all making sense, LOL.

My question to you: Are you happy?

 

[BPH]

My question to you: Are you happy?

Yes, but I'm not content.

I'm very happy with who I am, and I have fun being me. My lackluster financial situation and the fact that I live at home definitely weigh heavily on me, but once I sort that out, I really don't have many problems to be upset about.

I would say I'm not content because I know there's room for improvement everywhere. The basis of my entire existence on this forum boils down to me not being content with the results I was getting, then deciding to improve myself until I was. This applied to girls, fitness, friends, etc. Now I just need to apply that mindset to finances.

 

[SW15]

I'm very happy with who I am, and I have fun being me. My lackluster financial situation and the fact that I live at home definitely weigh heavily on me, but once I sort that out, I really don't have many problems to be upset about.

You get laid despite your financial situation and living with your parents.

Plenty of men who live alone or with roommates struggle to get laid.

 

[Dr_jitsu]

Yes, but I'm not content.

I'm very happy with who I am, and I have fun being me. My lackluster financial situation and the fact that I live at home definitely weigh heavily on me, but once I sort that out, I really don't have many problems to be upset about.

I would say I'm not content because I know there's room for improvement everywhere. The basis of my entire existence on this forum boils down to me not being content with the results I was getting, then deciding to improve myself until I was. This applied to girls, fitness, friends, etc. Now I just need to apply that mindset to finances.

OK....I am almost 63 so my advice is going to be as a much older man who was exactly where you are right now at one point. My advice is also going to be somewhat complex.

First things first, men must work on themselves. Eating right and fitness are a HUGE part of that (I also push martial arts very heavily). The next huge part is career development. You absolutely have to get that nailed down, but that topic is beyond the scope of my answers on a relationship forum. But yeah, you need work there. But I am sure you can do it. My best jobs did not come until I was nearly 40.

But here is the thing about relationships: Is increasing your body count beyond 98 going to make you significantly happier? I doubt it. Now mind you...IMO, seducing women and having sex with them is one of the most awesome things a man can do. My body count is 86, and looking back I wish I would have banged a few more. But the big difference, is quality of sex. Keep in mind, the vast majority of my body count was not from 1 night stands. In fact, the average duration of my relationships was about 3 months. And this was more often than not from women who were in love with me, giving me the absolute best sex they could....kind of a sexual Olympics. The best sex is not on the first night, the best sex is usually during months 2 and 3 when a woman has really learned (and is giving 100%) trying to please you.

Keep in mind, I am not pushing marriage on you....30 is too young to be married...but having said that, you don't want to be 63 and single, trust me, you want to be in a committed loving relationship, preferably a marriage to a younger, high quality women who will be by your side no matter what. In order for that to happen, at some point you need to master relationships and learn how to A, select a high quality women, and B, keep her in love. IMO, here is the hierarchy of relationships (from best to worst) and also stages that a man should go through is he wants to maximize happiness in his life.

#1 (the best): Managing a 3 woman rotation of beautiful high quality women who are in love with you. Remember, women will be moving in and out of your rotation so you will be with many women and this status can last many years. This situation will give you the best sex of your life. The only problem is that this status...while sustainable for many years, can't go on forever.

#2 Is a tie: A: Being young (20 something) and banging tons of women, but mostly one night stands and very short term relationships. This is you by the way. You are very good at opening and seducing women, but not good at sustaining relationships. But that is OK cause you are young and sowing your wild oats as all young men should do. Actually, if you are under 35, this is better than marriage. B: Marriage to a beautiful, younger, how quality woman who loves you and enhances your life in every way. Actually B is def better if you are over 40.

#3 Single and all alone. However this situation gets worse with age. Its OK at 25 but NOT something I would want at 65. But generally it is better than...

4: In a bad relationship. Generally the worst situation you can be in.

What is important to understand, is that generally these are phases. A guy is alone and has either been in bad relationships, or is just not good with women, at all. But said guy comes on this forum and studies (or reads my book, watches my videos) and through tons of hard work and discipline gets good at seducing women. That, actually, is you.

Now what I am suggesting for you, is that you start developing yourself who is someone who is good at MORE that just seducing women. Now you may disagree with me, but I think if you can start A: Learning how to weed out/select higher quality women, and B: Get those women to fall in love with you, that that would start to bring you more contentment in life. Your are doing this while simultaneously improving your career/living situation, etc.

Now, this in no way means you are going to be in an LTR anytime soon....this is not a process that happened overnight...but in, say, 4-5 years you could be running a rotation of very high quality women...not nut jobs like the one you are in a relationship, but beautiful loving, giving, mentally healthy, solid women. You, as I did, have to learn to stop making mistakes. Now you are 35...this does not mean you are married or anything like that, you just have very high quality women in your life and no longer have to deal with any garbage/baggage. You have choices.

You would be much more content.

 

[Vanderdonck]

Is there anything that I can do about this approach anxiety? Or is the answer just "man tf up and do it if I want to get results from these solo sessions?"

Three second rule. Just say something. Ever noticed how elderly people just blurt sh*t out in public to anyone and everyone? They'll die soon so they don't care. It really doesn't matter, OP. Approaches don't need to be masterclasses in seduction, they just need to start conversations.

Also, I still don't *totally* understand the flow of how to bring girls back for sex when you're solo and they are out in groups.

That's tougher. In a night out situation, bar or party, her friends will rightfully look out for her wellbeing. I mean you can always invite ALL of them back, lol. Have some wine or weed at home and some good music. Just go with the flow and relax, you want them to see you're harmless and fun.

IME nights out like Fri/Sat are tough, people are out to blow off steam. Daytime or midweek approaches are better to get to know someone.

 

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Sounds like you are on track, my friend. Try to get that lifting up to 4 days a week, although some do well on a 3 day program.

I too just picked up several [pairs of new boots. Can't overestimate the importance of footwear when it comes to appealing to women.

My lifts will have to be very late but I’ll get them in. It seems the only time I can get to the gym realistically is around 11 PM.

Another advantage of leaning down is it becomes easier and easier to get nice clothes that look good on you in general.

When I first started dieting seriously: just going from the Standard American Diet(DoorDash, restaurants, weekend binges, sugary ass alcoholic drinks) to keto caused significant loss. I had tried diets with carbs in the past but I always got too hungry, ended up binging, and couldn’t lose more than 15 lbs without rebounding right back up.

I was eating lots of fatty meats like chicken thighs and chuck roast. Eventually my keto weight loss slowed down, so I had to extend my intermittent fasting window(20/4, OMAD) and throw in some days of extended fasting. I noticed that intermittent and extended fasts were significantly easier on keto due to the fat adaptation. I eventually got sick of doing those 2-3 day fasts so I just brought my fat intake down and focused on leaner meats like chicken breast, 96/4 ground beef and pork tenderloin.

That’s where I’m at these days. I’m eating 6 days a week with a 24 hour fast on Sunday, and focused on low calorie lean meats for my protein sources.

So diet wise, basically as long as I’m low carb, I’m happy haha.