At A Complete Loss...

[MrWood]

remember that HB6 that was trying to get you into the sack at the bar, and you knew there was no way in hell she was good enough or worth the effort/time for your c0ck...
but you enjoyed the conversation and played with her abit, c0cky and flirty?

do that with the HB8+, this is outcome independence...

 

[R.U.G.]

I know right? Shocker.

Truth be told, I shalt not tell a lie.

 

[Orbitron]

@BeExcellent gave very solid advice. You give too many fvcks about women who are attractive in your eyes. The women you are not interested in show you interest because you dont care about them.

You should only be showing sexual interest in the women that you are interested in through your body language, communication (phone and text) to show that you are interested in them sexually/romantically and have no time for a platonic relationship with them. Make it clear without coming across as a sex creep. After you let your intentions be know (covertly) you need to chill out and these women will actually come to you if they are mutually interested. You should be treating them as interested but outcome indifferent.

This is what I honestly believe I do as I'm pretty clued up on body language and I've worked hard to make sure mine is not that of a weak, stooping supplicant, I maintain good (not constant) eye contact, I don't smile excessively like a bashful chump although I do try and maintain the James Bond style smirk and I try to be aware of the tonality and cadence of my voice when speaking.

When a woman does reject me, I have found that it doesn't hurt my feelings anymore as I've desensitized myself to it, ergo I don't really care about it all that much as I know that there's another hot one just around the corner but it becomes increasingly frustrating when my flake/failure rate is virtually 100%. I'm certainly not shy about communicating sexual interest in women as I have no problem in confidently telling a perfect stranger that she's stunning or looks amazing in their outfit or whatever.

 

[Orbitron]

If you're shooting for young 8s and 9s, lose the second pic vibe. The clothes appear tawdry/tacky, and the image doesn't scream high-value, debonair, sophisticated, and classy which you want to project for the high-end 8/9 club.

You are shooting for the style in the first pic, with the lean physical appearance in the second pic.

Style is huge.

Here are a few style tips that will crank you into gear. I assume, you have some cash flow at 42, so invest a little into YOU:

My go to is a HB shirt. This is the only designer that creates quality shirts for the athletic build (broad shoulders, slim waist).

Get the same style with different colors, white, blue, pink, purple. The key is in tailoring the back and waist to fit snug, but not tight. Then neatly roll the sleeves three times. Sport a classy watch.

Unfortunately I'm not in a position to spend that kind of money but I do have a pretty good wardrobe that I add to as and when I can and I think I make the best of what I've got; I recently bumped into an old flame on a night out and she felt compelled to text me later to tell me I looked "sharp as f*%k" so that speaks volumes. I have a quirky sense of style and I've recently read and digested "The Appearance of Power" by Tanner Guzy in an effort to further make the best of my attributes.

 

[Orbitron]

Some of my comments may sound a little harsh. They aren't really. I just want you to really look at what you want in a woman and think about how to attract (with as little effort as possible) that sort of woman.

Your pictures are good in my opinion. You are a big guy with decent style and a masculine look. You have good hair, good lips, good bone structure and a good strong jawline. You do look about 10-15 lbs. lighter in your motorcycle picture from last summer than you do now. Keep in mind your HB score is going to drop a half a point to a point for every extra ten pounds you carry. The same is true for women, trust me. I slay absolutely at about 115, but it's hell to try and stay at that weight. So I am at 120-125 and call it good. I can't run the 40 miles a week it takes to stay at 115 anymore. Knees won't tolerate it. Is what it is. Cut out carbs and beer for a bit (go to vodka/soda - no carbs or whiskey neat or scotch on the rocks - very low carbs) and see if you can get that extra off your middle. Women notice it. Staying fit does not get easier. Bummer but its fact. Accept it and adapt accordingly.

So my other questions are from a slightly different angle. First what is your target age? Second, your motorcycle pic sort of puts out this "bad boy" image upfront...is your follow up congruent with that? Or are you suddenly Mr. Polite? If you are then your behavior is not matching the image you portray, and that can trip you up.

It is my belief that the better looking you are the more you'll fare better IRL than online if you have the time to commit to RL interactions. In RL you can also control the sort of women you sort for by what venues you frequent. OLD is too much much of a catch all for everyone and anyone...but some of the men here swear by it with the right pictures. OLD is all about pictures.

The background in your first pic looks like a roadhouse dive bar kind of place. Do you want a roadhouse dive bar type woman?

If not, then you need to choose somewhere else to frequent or at least put a picture from a classier place in your profile. In my area for example there is everything from dive bar to high end swanky places that are booked with reservations every night of the week for dinner...that also have a good high end bar scene etc. The single women who go to the high end places have means and can afford it. Higher end venues are a pre-screening device that keep the riff raff (who can't afford it) out.

What kind of woman do you want to meet? Go where those kinds of women go. It allows you to focus on your target market. Don't go to collegiate hang outs if you think 21 year olds are too young (for example). If you prefer 21 year olds, then by all means go to the college bars and hang outs.

Figure out the hip hotel lounges in your area (I am partial to the "W" Hotel Properties myself as my type peeps hang there most typically)...but these are the sorts of things to ask yourself. Is motorcycle culture something you want a woman to embrace? I for example generally avoid motorcycle dudes. I don't want my hair messed up or have to wear pants, and I don't like the risk associated with bikes. I find it too "try hard" in some ways but if its something you really enjoy then obviously you'd like someone to enjoy that with. Go to rallies and events the motorcycle dealership puts on in that case.

As far as sexual interest goes...if you are asking the question then you do not naturally know what to do and when. That's OK. Find some venues and go watch people. Watch the men. You'll see some men who are very smooth in how they interact with women. Observe what they DO (what they say is less important than what they do.) Sit far enough away so you can't really hear so all you have to go on is body language. It will tell you everything if you pay close attention.

There are many good posts about escalation and kino in the DJ Bible. Women do respond to it, but again, only when its congruent with your overall presentation.

The best way to learn is by doing what you did with the hottie last week. Approach 100 women like @narcissist has embarked on recently. He blasted his reservations about approaching by doing that and evolved his comfort level with hot women at light speed. Do it and see how the action influences your outcomes (positively!) No one here can tell you what your approach style should be. Some men are dead pan blunt/direct, some are charming, some are sh*tty/funny, some are mysterious and quiet, some are gregarious outrageous touchy feely flirts. Any of those styles can work just fine so long as it has integrity with who you are at your core.

What you don't want to do is contort yourself and your personality into someone you are not in an effort to meet chicks. Women see this a mile away and it is a turn off.

I am heavier but it's lean muscle mass as I've been slamming it down the gym since Halloween 2017 and regained a lot of lost muscle.

 

[Orbitron]

I must just say that when I am on a night out, I frequently (several times a night usually) get women approaching me telling me I look like this, that or the other actor...I've had "Wolverine", "Negan from the Walking Dead" and a few others and I often get compliments on my stature, physique and my looks but it just all counts for nothing when I'm just not attractive to them all the same and this is the source of my frustration...I'll spend some time with them having a laugh and a giggle (usually at their expense as I do like to take the pi$$ in a friendly way) but when I go for the number or whatever it's always the BF/husband excuse.

 

[Dr.Suave]

Here's a photo of my sister and I taken a few weeks back and the one of my bike and I are from last summer.

Your sis is cute. I guess she´s younger than you and already tried banging her friends. How did that work out? What´s her take on this situation?

 

[BeExcellent]

I am heavier but it's lean muscle mass as I've been slamming it down the gym since Halloween 2017 and regained a lot of lost muscle.

This is very good. Just be aware that many women find a leaner, fit look more attractive than a bulked up look. Not a critique, mind, but an observation. Have you said hello to fit women at your gym?

My guy has gone from 6'4" 240 lbs to 6'4" 215 lbs and Jesus he looks hotter than ever. It all came off his middle (and he was in good shape to begin with). In a suit he has to wear the athletic cut ones due to his jacket to pants drop. Women love a V shape on a man.

Also. Approach hotter women. Sometimes women will turn you down because they don't think they can hold your attention (i.e. they think you are too hot for them.). @guru1000 has experience with that I think and so do others here.

Sounds counterintuitive I know...

 

[guru1000]

This is very good. Just be aware that many women find a leaner, fit look more attractive than a bulked up look. Not a critique, mind, but an observation. Have you said hello to fit women at your gym?

Yup, lean wins.

OP, lean mass, perhaps, but you're holding water weight. This is not ideal if you want young models. A bit too T'ed up?

Lose the water weight:

1) Cut salt intake 1-2 days before show time;
2) Drink a gallon of water per day;
3) If you're taking testosterone, use Arimidex EOD;
4) Drop your carbs 1-2 days before show time;
5) Natural herbal diuretics help tremendously.

You may think your "lean mass" looks good, but the hot women you want desire leanness and dryness (little subcutaneous water stores).

 

[zekko]

Nice bike.

 

[zekko]

Hot women gravitate to men that are "meh" about them.

This may be the single biggest difference between the genders. Attractive women find it appealing when men are "meh" about them. Men want women who have complete, unbridled enthusiasm at the thought of being with them.

 

[Milano]

This guy looks great, can wear a slim shirt and still looks fit. Great genetics as far as the first picture, would drop the second. I feel talking about his fitness is the least of his problems. Dont take womens advice on this either, they hardly know what they want at any given time. They are the ultimate glory hunters, so can they smell it off you?

Sadly, we are suppose to have been given a perfect upbringing preferably born with psychopathic tendancies and small concerns for feelings. We are not allowed to care about flaking, caring, even basic self respect is oit the window (because you gotta give her several chances even though she declined two of your dates, might say yes the third time, then Im @lpha!)

I think it falls down to the true internal belief that women wont make you happy, and in fact wont do most of us any good besides having a whet hole we have this rediculous craving instinct for.

Next time you go on dates in "normal western world old values are dead and buried areas", try to remind yourself that it is what it is, cant really change the rules, but you can try another game in another country where you have value just for being white and not being poor for instance. Then you would serve a purpose like our forefathers did not so long ago. We were always suppose to provide, feminism ruined the balance.

Still, acceptance is huge. Corey Wayne: "pain comes when you want reality to be something which it is not"

 

[Orbitron]

This guy looks great, can wear a slim shirt and still looks fit. Great genetics as far as the first picture, would drop the second. I feel talking about his fitness is the least of his problems. Dont take womens advice on this either, they hardly know what they want at any given time. They are the ultimate glory hunters, so can they smell it off you?

Sadly, we are suppose to have been given a perfect upbringing preferably born with psychopathic tendancies and small concerns for feelings. We are not allowed to care about flaking, caring, even basic self respect is oit the window (because you gotta give her several chances even though she declined two of your dates, might say yes the third time, then Im @lpha!)

I think it falls down to the true internal belief that women wont make you happy, and in fact wont do most of us any good besides having a whet hole we have this rediculous craving instinct for.

Next time you go on dates in "normal western world old values are dead and buried areas", try to remind yourself that it is what it is, cant really change the rules, but you can try another game in another country where you have value just for being white and not being poor for instance. Then you would serve a purpose like our forefathers did not so long ago. We were always suppose to provide, feminism ruined the balance.

Still, acceptance is huge. Corey Wayne: "pain comes when you want reality to be something which it is not"

I mentioned my extensive reading in an earlier post and it's not just limited to dating/game books; very far from it and have taken in a lot of psychology, body language, hypnosis, NLP and god knows what else.

One of the books I read was "The Female Brain" by Louann Brizendine whose credentials speak for themselves and the one major point I took from the book was this; women don't say what they mean, mean what they say and whatever they do say or mean depends on the time of the month anyway.

Taking that into account, is it any wonder blokes don't listen.

 

[Orbitron]

Your sis is cute. I guess she´s younger than you and already tried banging her friends. How did that work out? What´s her take on this situation?

She doesn't have many friends and certainly no hot ones as far as I know.

 

[Orbitron]

Yup, lean wins.

OP, lean mass, perhaps, but you're holding water weight. This is not ideal if you want young models. A bit too T'ed up?

Lose the water weight:

1) Cut salt intake 1-2 days before show time;
2) Drink a gallon of water per day;
3) If you're taking testosterone, use Arimidex EOD;
4) Drop your carbs 1-2 days before show time;
5) Natural herbal diuretics help tremendously.

You may think your "lean mass" looks good, but the hot women you want desire leanness and dryness (little subcutaneous water stores).

Not in the slightest; I'm 6'4" and 238 lbs of natural muscle and I've never taken any gear in my life!

 

[Orbitron]

This is very good. Just be aware that many women find a leaner, fit look more attractive than a bulked up look. Not a critique, mind, but an observation. Have you said hello to fit women at your gym?

My guy has gone from 6'4" 240 lbs to 6'4" 215 lbs and Jesus he looks hotter than ever. It all came off his middle (and he was in good shape to begin with). In a suit he has to wear the athletic cut ones due to his jacket to pants drop. Women love a V shape on a man.

Also. Approach hotter women. Sometimes women will turn you down because they don't think they can hold your attention (i.e. they think you are too hot for them.). @guru1000 has experience with that I think and so do others here.

Sounds counterintuitive I know...

With the greatest respect, I don't agree with this; whilst no doubt a lot of women will find the MH cover model look physically appealing, it' doesn't seem to be of primary importance when women decide which guys they're going to give the time of day to.

All day long in my job I see hot women with guys that are average looking and in reasonable shape at best and this can only be down to their game; were aesthetics higher on a woman's shopping list then quite frankly I'd be beating them off with a ****ty stick all day every day

 

[Orbitron]

This is very good. Just be aware that many women find a leaner, fit look more attractive than a bulked up look. Not a critique, mind, but an observation. Have you said hello to fit women at your gym?

No I don't as a rule as whilst there is a few typical gym bunnies there; I spend my time on the weight pile where the pretty young things mostly fear to tread and besides, I'm there for one reason only and it's not to hit upon women.

 

[guru1000]

I just love guys who join the forum, can’t get a date, and then question the validity of the advice given by vets who will dance circles around them with hot women they couldn’t even fathom to be with.

Priceless.

OP, lose the water weight. You’ll thank me later.

 

[speed dawg]

I just love guys who join the forum, can’t get a date, and then question the validity of the advice given by vets who will dance circles around them with hot women they couldn’t even fathom to be with.

Priceless.

OP, lose the water weight. You’ll thank me later.

You gave him fitness advice. He disagreed with you (and the WOMAN giving advice in a MEN'S forum) because he sees everyday that looks aren't the total package.

Yes, looks help. Do your best there. But looks aren't this guy's problem at present.

 

[guru1000]

You gave him fitness advice. He disagreed with you (and the WOMAN giving advice in a MEN'S forum) because he sees everyday that looks aren't the total package.

Yes, looks help. Do your best there. But looks aren't this guy's problem at present.

100% flake ratio in OLD. Looks are the problem. Wake up.