article: Why PUA ultimately failed

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Napoleon is a brilliant tactician but he was a needy man that desires love - which is what turns off women.

The cat doesn't want a willing mouse to chase, it wants to experience the thrill of the chase, that's how women are.

All a man's gotta do is be that mouse.

But what makes a man into that mouse? A million little things, from looks, to his ambition, to potential, to talents, to how he carried himself, etc - in essence, it's his frame.
A lot of them want to waste a busy mans time and will seduce him in order to do so.
 

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This reminds me of the PUA era:
 

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PUA is like teaching negotiation techniques to a homeless guy so he can get a mortgage in a bank.

Too bad negotiation techniques only work to get a more favourable outcome only when you already have what it takes to get something to begin with.
 

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If a man's frame is brittle making it thus not worth much, then no amount of pick up skills he learns will ever be sustainable.

If a man's frame is strong, then he need not learn any pick up skills, since his frame naturally is attractive to women.

To find a jellyfish of a man, all one needs to do is seek out how he thinks - you'll soon find his desire to learn PUA skills is actually a subconscious mask he uses to hide his brittle frame.
 

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PUA is simply a method to encourage a woman to do what she already wants to do. That's it. There is nothing magical about it. The PUAs can not and will not be able to teach a dude to get any woman he wants. It has never really been like that. The secret of PUA is to teach men how to behave in a way that makes you attractive to women that just want to hook up... they also teach men how to be attractive short term... finally they teach men not to be discouraged by rejection.

So you learn how to behave in an attractive way, how to present yourself, and keep trying. Eventually you will get a chick. It works... always has, and always will. PUAs teach men how to be a dancing grinder monkey begging for coins. The monkey will get coins. My problem with PUAs is they sell dudes on the idea that any man can get any woman... that is bvllsh1t. It is also completely useless if you want to find a relationship. Oddly enough, most men want relationships... so if they are listening to PUA advice in an effort to find a 'relationship' you are learning the wrong skill sets.

If you get really good at picking up chicks eventually it gets boring... really, I kid you not. You might think if you are in a place where you are not having success with women, the idea that you could sleep with dozens of women a year is great... it is for awhile, but you have to spend a lot of unproductive energy to do this... ultimately it is a waste of time.
 

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But the whole idea of PUA is that by using it, an ugly/short man could "ascend". If the number of women that one gets is the same whether he used PUA techniques or not, what's the point of learning it?
If he is socially approved females will fvck with him. They care about status more than looks in many circles. Look @ Biggie Smalls. Face, body and aura.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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good looks is what it's about (when we're talking about not basically being a sugar daddy or whatever)
You can even be autistic like this dude lol


he bangs new hot young girls every night lol
 
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