article: Why Men Are Slackers and Women Are Single

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All men deserve at least common courtesy. It's for your own good. Disrespect the wrong stranger, and your pleasant morning will suddenly turn into a life-and-death struggle for survival. Wouldn't you rather live in a society where all men are pleasant to one another? Of course you would.
I thought the discussion was about women disrespecting men. And the answer to your question is

No - I don't believe just being a man entitles to you common courtesy. You need to have more than a penis to deserve that. And the fact that my pleasant morning isn't a survival struggle is NOT because my low-income neighbors are true altruists within. Something else is restraining them. Pretty effectively, in fact.


Who are those deadbeats? When there aren't enough jobs to go around, some men are going to be unemployed. Period. They'd only be "deadbeats" if there was so much opportunity that even the most hurt and broken man had plenty of chances to rebuild his life. Besides, not hustling yourself for pennies -- "becoming a deadbeat" -- is the best and most-rational choice for many men. If she's the one who cheated, or if her abuse drove him into the arms of another woman, why should he pay for her wrecking the marriage?
There are many deadbeats who have all the resources in the world but they feel some sort of entitlement. I could think of dozens of examples, personally.

And it's far more common than that easily thrown around "false rape accusation" tag, everyone is talking about here.

I don't know a single guy who has had to deal with a rape accusation, but there are dozens of guys who think they deserve shìt even when they don't pay the price. ( of hardwork and patience).
 

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I don't know a single guy who has had to deal with a rape accusation
You will (not necessarily rape accusation, but sexual harassment accusation is way more common) when you start to know more guys with a lot to lose (i.e positions of power & money) or become one yourself.

You're doing a PhD right? Ask a male-friendly professor about it. Or researchers fighting over grants.
 
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In regards to what another commenter said about getting married because of what the "bible" says about getting "married" because of "fornication." Like you, and probably tens of millions of people even as of now in 2013 in various religions, that is the main belief system that I too was taught (brainwashed) by going to "churches." The belief that "intimate relations" is for in marriage ONLY because the bible/religions say that fornication will prevent you from going to heaven after death is falsely brainwashed into millions of people. I did not internally agree with this belief, but I went along with it because of the weekly brainwashing of these churches to have power/control over millions of people (as they also constanly request money to be handed over by these same people as they sang religious songs and the people got the money out and put the money in the basket that was then taken up to the alter). These religious "authorities" would then spend the money mostly on themselves. It is the constant brainwashing of this incorrect belief that "intimate relations is ONLY to be done in marriage" that I heard preached as I went to churches every week that also demasculinizes men, and as I went to chastity seminars with religious groups preaching for us to become priests and to "never self-stimulate" and to "never touch or even look at girls in THAT way" (as a normal hetero guy would). This "so-called fornication" brainwashed belief system totally MESSED UP my youth and is the VERY belief that caused me through high school to do NOTHING with girls at all (I would not even allow myself to date girls).

Then, this "fornication" belief system began to crumble into a pile of lies and I resented and regreted what these "religious authorities/churches" did to me and continues to preach to millions of people. The priests who were telling me/us to not do "intimate things" were themselves exposed doing disgusting/harmful things to mostly little boys. Religious figures were caught stealing much money. My friends I went to church/religious meetings/chastity seminars with told me AFTER high school (when I still had my v-card) that they had during high school been doing "intimate relations/fornication." (I type this way because SS blockes out letters of some words). I stopped going to churches. I would never give my time or money or my mind to any church or religion ever again. I stopped seeking the approval/disapproval of "religious people" who were in fact (even if well-meaning) delusional frauds. I stopped doing things for the expectations of others, especially churches. I thought for myself again. No other religion, cult, or other person is ever going to tell me what to think and do, in their attempt to have power over and control me.

The number one piece of information I learned on my own that set me free on my journey of freedom from this "fornication" made-up religion belief system was that the word in the "bible" for "fornication" was changed "by so-called religious authority who altered the word in the "bible" to reflect their made-up beliefs (possibly around the year 1400) from the ORIGINAL word in Greek (and that original Greek word was NOT even about "pre-marital relations") TO the word "fornication." "Fornication" was NOT even the original Greek word. Thus, "fornication" was not the correct original translation. Most people around 2000 years ago in "biblical days" got married (and had "relations") as teenagers. Thus, the original Greek word was about religious idolitry in the temple there back then. Thus, saying the BELIEF that ALL people "HAVE TO" get married to "be ALLOWED by controlling religious authority figures" to ONLY then "have intimate relations," is INCORRECT and is not "reality."

Also, before say 2000 years ago, and before say a few hundred years ago when this so-called "fornication" belief system was made-up by a few "religious priests changing the original Greek word TO this different word of so-called fornication," people had been naturally/normally/humanly having "pre-marital relations for at least "tens of thousands of years or MORE" right here on planet earth. Those people "did it" without the "approval/blessing" of "religious authority figures." For probably over a few hundred thousand years people "did it" without being "married by a religion and the State." The world went on and here we are today.

Therefore, it took me quite a while to un-learn many years of religious brainwashing. I am finally free to decide my own beliefs, and as a man having "un-married relations with women" feels natural/normal/right for me.

Also, as a businessman and as a free human being with freedom to decide to not get married, I decided that I will never get married because it does not fit in with my "DJ/International G" lifestyle, I'm not going to have kids, being a SOB I have control freak relatives and I've experienced how they (their angry mean ANGER and attempts to control) can ruin my life so there's no way I'm going to get married and enable another person and the State government to have the legal power over me in marriage, and I will NOT put myself in a legal situation where on any day I can of no-fault of my own have half of everything (I've painfully to my hard-core struggled and worked so many years for) have it just taken away from me in a divorce.

I'm not a priest. I'm a DJ. Too much for my tatse on SS is promoting religion and such, and this worse for me and my game, so I'm moving on. Most of what I have read on SS is not about "game," so SS must not be a Game site. I'm not a weak wuss complaining manipulative "nice guy," and I am not a "a-hole jerk" who is mean/hurtful/rude/insecure/wussy/angry/controlling either, as I don't pretend as either does. I really like most women (and maybe because of my inner-security/strength/relaxed disposition/sensual vibe and sensual leadership) is why women act fun/playful/sensual around me because they know if they are not this way around me that I say it was a pleasure and I just go on to the next woman. I'm now finally a better top-level DJ with top-shelf women in the real world.

I will not be responding to any comments attacking my post about what I said in this post about what benefited me in overcoming "those incorrect religious fornication beliefs" that once un-learned/overcome contributed to finally making me a natural/normal human being again and my game better. Maybe there will be 7 out of ten who will attack this post (because it disagrees with their religious BELIEFS). Maybe 3 out of ten will say good post.

To those who say to get married because of THEIR beliefs about "fornication," or those based on their insecurity or arrogance who would call me names such as slacker; here is my middle finger in front of me and my blank face. Everyone enjoy your life and have fun experiences with other people. I now Log Off SS. I go my own way.
 

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This is why the USA and the majority of first world countries are in decline, people have lost faith in a system designed for families to contribute to the tax farm. It just gives rise to other family based economies. I think we are just seeing the result of moral degradation and the deconstruction of the USA. The more you put off marriage, the more the word gets out, more people pull away from the system, the more the USA slumps... and it seems there is no where to go but down, down, down. Countries need families to continue, people (especially women) seem to have forgotten this in their quest for a better career and a gay friendly nation.

No families = No new jobs. Woops.

Its the end of an empire.
 

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Boilermaker said:
I thought the discussion was about women disrespecting men. And the answer to your question is

No - I don't believe just being a man entitles to you common courtesy. You need to have more than a penis to deserve that. And the fact that my pleasant morning isn't a survival struggle is NOT because my low-income neighbors are true altruists within. Something else is restraining them. Pretty effectively, in fact.
There are lots of people like you in the world. You make life difficult and unpleasant for the rest of us. We tolerate your presence, and assist you as we would anyone else, because your behavior doesn't define ours. You're totally ungrateful for the thousands of acts of kindness and charity you've received over your lifetime.

The danger to you does not come from the mass of common men. It comes from your own kind. These self-absorbed, greedy, petty types are the ones who disrupt our pleasant lives.

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There are many deadbeats who have all the resources in the world but they feel some sort of entitlement. I could think of dozens of examples, personally.

And it's far more common than that easily thrown around "false rape accusation" tag, everyone is talking about here.

I don't know a single guy who has had to deal with a rape accusation, but there are dozens of guys who think they deserve shìt even when they don't pay the price. ( of hardwork and patience).
I really don't know what to say about you. It's like you're completely insensitive to subtleties. No man is going to sh1t on his reputation here by bringing up false accusations that ruined his life before.

And what to fvck do you know about paying the price? I doubt you ever had to sleep in the bushes in the cold and rain, night after night, to save your low-azz wages from any job you could bus to, toward a fvcking way overpriced rent and deposit. Only then to see your life destroyed by false accusations, lose everything, and have to do it again.

Fvck you and everyone like you.
 

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Seems like I hit a soft spot again...

In fact, you are the kind of person who makes this forum about EVERYTHING but women... Look at you. You are barking at some tree, but it's not even

clear what you want.

Why are you angry? Because there's poverty in the world? You are blaming me about "low-azz wages and overpriced rents"?

This place WAS about getting women before people like you dumped all their skewed world views on us.

I know as much about paying the price as everyone else who's out there struggling because believe it or not, life is very democratic in distributing hardship.

But there will always be people (I don't want to say like -you-)

who will blame the world and "over-priced rents" and whatnot

instead of getting out and DOING something about it.

I prefer doing the latter,

you suit yourself.

If not carrying the flag for drug addicts, irresponsible men, entitled losers who live on welfare, white knights who inflate fat girls' egos, and all the other

losers make me a "petty, self-absorbed, greedy" man,

so be it,

I am a petty, self-absorbed, greedy man. And you are their hero. Congratulations. Here's a pink ribbon for you.
 

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Boilermaker said:
I know as much about paying the price as everyone else who's out there struggling because believe it or not, life is very democratic in distributing hardship.
You enjoy a privileged life and you're inexperienced in the ways of the world. Stop complaining that older and experienced men call bvll sh1t on your bvll sh1t.
 

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Down Low said:
You enjoy a privileged life and you're inexperienced in the ways of the world. Stop complaining that older and experienced men call bvll sh1t on your bvll sh1t.
double post
 

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You enjoy a privileged life and you're inexperienced in the ways of the world. Stop complaining that older and experienced men call bvll sh1t on your bvll sh1t.
This is correct, and I can't argue with this.


Fair enough.
 

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last night we went over to a guy friends house as a sort of quasi double date to have dinner and watch a movie at the dude's house with his date, who is a girl that my wife knows /tried to hook her up with my friend.

yeah.. the dinner.. mother****ing fishsticks lol. not even like the high end fish sticks. not even the **** with the fisherman looking like he is really trying to accomplish something or anything with the fat juicy fish sticks, just cheap **** you fish sticks and ****ing ketchup. yteah this is great if i brought my son my son ****ing loves fish sticks. but this dude is 28 years old and is crying about how he can't find a good woman yet the best thing he has in his arsenal is ****ing fish sticks. **** take out. lie lol. dont' cook fish sticks. had i known that was the plan i would have cooked for him.

this doesn't play well on this site, but there are some lazy mother****ing men out there, and not beucase feminist made them that way or becuase they are getting bad reps, they are just ****ing lazy for no other reason than they are lazy. i see them everyday. well not everyday but i see them.

the truth is there is some truth to both sides. I'm not even talking about lazy as in life goals or ambitions i mean, cleaning the ****ing bathroom/moping the floor taking out the trash learn how to cook 1 or 2 half ass decent meals can't iron my own clothes and i'm damn near 30 lazy ass men out there. not saying all men are like that by any stretch, but more than this stie wants to admit they are out there. and there is some truth to what we are saying as well.

More than once.. this guy being one of them i've gone over a dudes house and you look in the kitchen and there is nothing but ****ing cereal, chips and candy, grown ass men that don't know how to grocery shop. it's like i don't know what it is there are some men that just "missed it" when it comes to "how to be a grown up" class. then when you try to tell a guy hey man where the **** is the food they tell you "i'm not trying to impress anyone" like the only time i want to eat chicken or rice or spaghetti or any real ****ing food is when i have a broad over. that **** makes me want to throw up guys who think like that.


when fishstick man tells me about how women are feminist haters i tune him out. he thnks beucase he's not a bad looking guy it just entitles him to ***** and it doesnt'. then the guy wonders why when we are watching the movie he can't get a kiss close no it's not beucase she's a prude. they were crying laughing at him on the phone when we left.
 

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BB, I think the scenario you were in goes beyond lazy, the guy is clueless, he isnt aware he needs to learn. he may be arrogant, ignorant...as well as lazy!
it smacks of a lack of effort, im sure 99% of women prefer that he made more of an efort over the food and then burnt it to cinders rather than serve up the cr@p he did
 

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backbreaker said:
yeah.. the dinner.. mother****ing fishsticks lol. not even like the high end fish sticks. not even the **** with the fisherman looking like he is really trying to accomplish something or anything with the fat juicy fish sticks, just cheap **** you fish sticks and ****ing ketchup. yteah this is great if i brought my son my son ****ing loves fish sticks. but this dude is 28 years old and is crying about how he can't find a good woman yet the best thing he has in his arsenal is ****ing fish sticks. **** take out. lie lol. dont' cook fish sticks. had i known that was the plan i would have cooked for him.
Lol, fishsticks?! That's awesome. The guy is probably a SoSuave member who has been reading about how you shouldn't buy girls drinks or take them out to nice restaurants. He probably figures she hasn't qualified herself yet to deserve anything more than the fishsticks he had laying around in his freezer. She needs to earn the real food, lol. I hope he at least made some mac and cheese to go with it, or maybe that was too complicated.

:)

If your wife set this guy up, didn't she know the dude was clueless? Fishsticks, that's fantastic. You should be dating a girl for a good long time before the fishsticks come out lol.
 

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Boilermaker said:
This is correct, and I can't argue with this.


Fair enough.
I'm sorry for going off on you like that. It's nothing you did.
 

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Men can do without women a LOT better than women can do without men. how many women know how to do JACK? When it comes to creating something that amounts to a hoot, or repairing maintaining said item, etc, very few women know diddly squat. they can "shop" and some can keep a house, a few can handle an office or simple factory work, and that's pretty much all there is to them. As they say, "if it wasn't for p8ssy, there'd be a bounty on them".
 

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omg fishsticks.
bb, tell fishsticks he isnt impressing anyone this way. ask him what he would do if he were invited to a woman's place for dinner only to see her pop them eggos out the toaster.
i mean, eggos are good when no one is looking. eggos are never going to score a woman's way into a man's heart and neither is fishsticks.
 

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backbreaker said:
yeah.. the dinner.. mother****ing fishsticks lol. not even like the high end fish sticks. not even the **** with the fisherman looking like he is really trying to accomplish something or anything with the fat juicy fish sticks, just cheap **** you fish sticks and ****ing ketchup.
Yes, the least he could have done was buy the fish sticks with the pic of the fisherman with a good attitude. :crackup: :crackup:

Good quality ribeye steak (or some other, cheaper cut, if that is preferred) costs about $10/lb. Two couples could probably do with 2 lbs.
 

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zekko said:
Lol, fishsticks?! That's awesome. The guy is probably a SoSuave member who has been reading about how you shouldn't buy girls drinks or take them out to nice restaurants. He probably figures she hasn't qualified herself yet to deserve anything more than the fishsticks he had laying around in his freezer. She needs to earn the real food, lol. I hope he at least made some mac and cheese to go with it, or maybe that was too complicated.

:)

If your wife set this guy up, didn't she know the dude was clueless? Fishsticks, that's fantastic. You should be dating a girl for a good long time before the fishsticks come out lol.

it's funny beucase it's true.

in her defense i haven't known the guy all that long and he's a good looking guy and her friend just broke up with a guy and thought the dude was cute and so my wife went to work.

i mean, eggos are good when no one is looking. eggos are never going to score a woman's way into a man's heart and neither is fishsticks.
eggos are good. eggos means you probably got some last night. throw some sryup on them and no one is the wiser.

if you are cooking a girl eggos you've already made the impression beucase she spent the night over your house is what i am trying to say. but fishsticks bro come on lol.
 

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Jitterbug said:
Fish sticks are better than skittles, and look how well skittles man does with women: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/be-a-skittles-man/

It's something else that fish sticks man lacks, nothing particularly wrong with fish sticks, just easier to blame them.
This was very insightful.

I hadn't seen that article, either, thanks.

Although I must say fish-sticks is extremely distasteful for a first date. I live alone, and I wouldn't even cook that shìt for myself even when nobody is looking. Especially if you are supposed to cook. I noticed reading the article that the skittles man gives skittles as a present to an existing girlfriend....Somewhat like what Zekko is suggesting above.
 
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