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For a mainstream article, this one is not bad:


11 "Don't-Tell-the-Husband" Secrets All Women Keep

By Jeannie Kim

1. Everything we buy for ourselves—shoes, a skirt, even just stuff from the drugstore—really costs 20 percent more than we tell you it did.
Just because it's a classic sitcom plot doesn't mean it isn't true. "Sometimes I'll buy an outfit and charge half of it on our credit card and pay for the other half in cash so my husband doesn't know what I'm actually spending," admits one 32-year-old, who requested anonymity to protect her sneaky secret. Yeah, we know honesty is the best policy, hiding your spending habits is bad, blah blah blah. But sometimes we just don't want the hassle of arguing over the price of the fancy shampoo. Is that so wrong? We don't think so.

2. We actually think about sex—with you!—a lot.
Sometimes we think about it all day long. It's just that by the end of the day we're too damn tired to do anything about it. Now, if you could only catch us at lunchtime…

3. We're just as nervous about commitment as you are.
True, many girls grow up dreaming of Prince Charming, the white wedding, and happily ever after. But we're human, just like you, and when it comes down to the reality of tying our life to another person's, we get scared, too. "The idea of getting married completely freaked me out at first," says my friend Lisa, 34. "I know this sounds like a guy cliché, but I saw it as giving up my independence and being tied down." The good news is, once we're hitched, we're generally pretty delighted about it. Says Lisa, "Now that I am married, having a life commitment is so comforting and wonderful. I love knowing that we are a team and that we're going to be on the same team forever."

4. We may be modern and independent, but we still want you to be "the man."
We do want you to be sensitive, caring 21st-century males, but even the most ass-kicking, take-no-prisoners woman still wants to feel taken care of by her man somehow. Whether that means you take charge in bed, know how to fix the car and kill spiders, or even just carry the big suitcase when we're on vacation—when you act all manly, even if you're 98 pounds soaking wet, it makes us feel more feminine, more safe.

"I love that my friends and family always comment on how my husband opens the door for me and does all kinds of other chivalrous things—especially when I was pregnant, when he was so protective of me and my belly," says Lorraine, 29, of New Hartford, NY. "At the end of the day, being in his strong arms is definitely a good feeling, no matter how independent I know I am."

5. Our ex-boyfriends were not completely terrible in bed.
You know how we're always telling you things like, "No one does it like you do"? Um, yeah. Well, we may have been stretching the truth just a teensy bit. But we'll never actually tell you that a past lover was a bedroom dynamo—we're smarter than that. Just know that whatever toe-curling orgasms the other guy gave us, sex with you really is a million times better—because it's you, and you're the one we really want.

6. We're scared that we'll turn into our mothers.
We love our mothers, really. We admire them, we're grateful to them, we think they're the most amazing women on the planet. We just don't want to be them. That's why one of the worst insults you can hurl at a woman is, "You're acting just like your mother."

But here's one that's even worse: "You're acting just like my mother." It sends a horrible oedipal shiver down our spines—did he marry me because I'm like his mom? Will he start expecting me to cut the crusts off his PB&J? So please, if you value your sex life, never ever compare your wife to your mother. Out loud, anyway.

7. We want you to be jealous—but just a little bit.
We want you to notice—and care!—when the waiter flirts with us, or when other guys check us out on the street. It makes us feel that we matter to you. But please don't get all Neanderthal and possessive on us. "I'm very loyal, and if my guy can't understand that I would never do anything with anyone else, then that just makes me mad," says Paulina, 22, from Brooklyn. So, to recap: Raising your eyebrows when we introduce you to our cute coworker—good. Punching him out—very, very bad.

8. Yes, we fantasize about hot celebrity guys, but that doesn't mean we want you to be them.
Christian Bale is sexy and all, but can you imagine having to clean that Batcave?

9. We tell our girlfriends more than we admit to you (but less than you fear).
Yes, we tell them about the latest marital spat, complain about our mothers-in-law, and sigh over the hobby that sucks up all your free time. But we don't tell them how big your you-know-what is or that you cried in our arms when your dad died. Some things are just too important and intimate to share. "I definitely don't tell my girlfriends details like what my husband said when he proposed, the feeling I have every time I see him look at our daughter, and the little wonderful things he does for me every day," says Lorraine. "Those are just for me."

10. We really do notice and appreciate all the chores you do.
Why don't we say so often enough? Because we can't get over all the things you don't do. My husband, for example, is incredibly diligent about keeping a 6-by-10-foot carpeted patch of our apartment vacuumed and cat hair–free, and I love that. But it kills me that it never occurs to him to dust the furniture sitting on top of that piece of carpet, or to sweep the hardwood floor adjoining it.

Blame our lack of positive feedback on that stubborn female belief that there is Only One Right Way to do any given household task—our way. It's probably the real reason why men don't shoulder a greater share of housekeeping duties; we complain about how you did it wrong, so you never want to do it again. (Sounds familiar, right?) Let's make a deal: You promise to dust the lampshade (or wipe down the kitchen counter after you wash the dishes, or take out the garbage and then put a new liner in the can) once in a while, and we promise to sing your praises. Agreed?

11. We love you with all our hearts, but we still get wistful about the fact that we'll never feel that falling-in-love sizzle and spark again.
I'll just come right out and say it: Most women are love addicts. And while we appreciate the depth and richness of long-time love, there is simply nothing like the giddy, fluttery, crazy feeling we get (or rather, used to get) with a brand-new guy. We know we'll never feel that high again, and there's a little part of us that will always miss it. (Why do you think we watch so many romantic comedies?)

from:
http://lifestyle.msn.com/Relationsh.../ArticleRB.aspx?cp-documentid=675120&GT1=8461

also:
Secrets All Men Keep:
http://lifestyle.msn.com/Relationships/CouplesandMarriage/ArticleRB.aspx?cp-documentid=604574
 

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"I love that my friends and family always comment on how my husband opens the door for me and does all kinds of other chivalrous things—"

Oh cripes, there's that buzzword. I'll cut myself off before I get started:

She doesnt' care if he does it all the time or not, just that he's chivalrous when other people are looking? That's the secret?

Oh, brother. :rolleyes:
 

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Yeah, that's analagous to "I love it how my friends always tell me how hot my girl is and how they'd all do nasty things to her in bed." LOL.
 

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Not too bad for chick sh!t. But still cheesy and laced with BS assumptions.

The bit about house cleaning makes me laugh.

Why don't we do more house cleaning? Because we don't fvcking care about it! That's whay. :rolleyes:
 

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I care about it, thast why i clean the **** spray off the back of the toilet once every 2 months
 

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Holy Buckets! That is the best article about women written by a woman that I have read in a really long time. I think it's Bible worthy and should be stickied.
 

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Skel said:
I care about it, thast why i clean the **** spray off the back of the toilet once every 2 months
exactly. for a woman, it would be once a week.
 

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I think guys should read the companion article about the secrets than men keep. One resonates with me, the one about appreciating when a woman doesn't mind or even encourages a "guys night out." I don't know about the rest of you guys, but being with a woman who is secure enough not to mind and sees hanging out with the guys as something that makes us happy makes her even more attractive.

It's interesting to see in contrast the amount of men (or lack of) who feel the same about women having their own night out with the girls. I've learned that in viable relationships women tend to give back their guys more than they get from them. In instances where the men gave them small things which seem like concessions, women "pay back" the favors exponentially. ;) That's why I think that type of thing is worth a ton in a stable relationship.
 

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9. We tell our girlfriends more than we admit to you (but less than you fear).
Yes, we tell them about the latest marital spat, complain about our mothers-in-law, and sigh over the hobby that sucks up all your free time. But we don't tell them how big your you-know-what is or that you cried in our arms when your dad died. Some things are just too important and intimate to share. "I definitely don't tell my girlfriends details like what my husband said when he proposed, the feeling I have every time I see him look at our daughter, and the little wonderful things he does for me every day," says Lorraine. "Those are just for me."
*cough*bullsh!t!*cough*

Change "girlfriends" to "people I know", and I can tell you that's bull. I have a chick friend with a boyfriend, and damn, I'm sure her boyfriend would be furious if he knew all the stuff she's told me. Same about my sister and guy she's been with.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
I've learned that in viable relationships women tend to give back their guys more than they get from them. In instances where the men gave them small things which seem like concessions, women "pay back" the favors exponentially. ;) That's why I think that type of thing is worth a ton in a stable relationship.
Truth spoken by a man who knows.

I'll back you up on that.
 

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Scrumtulescence said:
*cough*bullsh!t!*cough*

Change "girlfriends" to "people I know", and I can tell you that's bull. I have a chick friend with a boyfriend, and damn, I'm sure her boyfriend would be furious if he knew all the stuff she's told me. Same about my sister and guy she's been with.
She may have told you a bunch but I doubt that she told you everything.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
She may have told you a bunch but I doubt that she told you everything.
we save the best and the worst for our closest girlfriends.
its not that we are not honest, its just that we know you dont want to hear it all haha.
 

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Shezz said:
Those Top 10 or 11 MSN lists are utter BS! Just more social brainwashing - don't read them guys :down:

Sarge On...
Did you even read the article?
 

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penkitten said:
we save the best and the worst for our closest girlfriends.
its not that we are not honest, its just that we know you dont want to hear it all haha.
Oh I know that for a fact, it's usually the bragging part. It does take you guys a bit of time to bring up the really dirty, gritty, under the stove, greasy gunk of the relationship though. The stuff that you're kinda self conscious of, y'know what I'm talking about. ;)
 

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What a crock. Especially the one about men. 'We want to be mothered?' Wtf? If you want to be mothered, then you and the mangina who wrote the article have something in common.

God forbid a man writes anything about men without including all the apologetic 'women are better' bull**** in every sentence. As far as I know, no man feels guilty about being a man.

Prick...

Or how about that women's secrets article? Where's the one about dirty sluts fvcking their way up the corporate ladder? Or the one where women go on huge shopping sprees with their hubby's credit card and then throw a hissy fit when he mentions it?

Alright... Some pointers were ok.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Holy Buckets! That is the best article about women written by a woman that I have read in a really long time. I think it's Bible worthy and should be stickied.
Agreed, definetly a great article!
 

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penkitten said:
we save the best and the worst for our closest girlfriends.
its not that we are not honest, its just that we know you dont want to hear it all haha.
Yea, and we as men save our best w/ones who get it, and the worst is natures problem. May I ask, as I find this interesting, what criteria you are mentioning? You seem naturally 'entitled' to a secret society, forbidden and impenetrable by men. That is OK.

On the other hand, if we, as men, I have to mention, are 15 minutes late coming home, our phone is OVERLOADED w/ calls from the chick you are seeing. Of course, she deduces you are cheating on her, we all know this.

So, my questions are : Does a man enjoy the same rights you do in a relationship? Are we allowed any privacy, at all? The girls, from what you wrote can acceptably conceal their actions, desires, secrets, in any manner decided, and it's cool. They are justified. Finally, please tell me why a man today would desire to commit to a woman w/ this mentality? I am not picking a fight, just curious, although I think I know too much already, on this.

PK, tell Gio a friendly hello, best wishes to you both.
 

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Agree with the others, its pretty much bunk hogwash with the rarer parts that are true made out to sound like some eye opening shock revelations but ultimately just actually telling us the no brainer sh!t we already know.

I'll just come right out and say it: Most women are love addicts. And while we appreciate the depth and richness of long-time love, there is simply nothing like the giddy, fluttery, crazy feeling we get (or rather, used to get) with a brand-new guy.
BINGO!! Which waters down the importance of almost the entire post.


Btw what the hell is a b!tch doing telling men how they should clean? Sure I clean to help snag cvnt initially but a way to KEEP IT !!!, and have the woman give us "positive feedback" about it?....Fvck off idiot.

Blame our lack of positive feedback on that stubborn female belief that there is Only One Right Way to do any given household task—our way. It's probably the real reason why men don't shoulder a greater share of housekeeping duties
:rolleyes: Nah thats not it, the reason is simply because you dont "shoulder" your share of changing the tyre, oil, lifting, carrying, building, creating the world you live in, oh and protecting your self entitled ass every night.
 

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Secrets men keep:

1) We don't care about your secrets
 
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