article: Gen Z Is Leaving Dating Apps Behind

[FlexpertHamilton]

Gen Z has no testosterone so they don't even care if they have sex or not. Half of them are asexual and would rather play Call of Duty than go out or fvck.

Eh, maybe. If that's true i'm in that camp. I remember having a cute 19 yo redhead fwb for a long time years ago and I got more enjoyment out of playing Starcraft 2 than fvcking her.

The Test thing might be explain some of it, but most gen Z seem like horny coomers from what I've seen, they desperately want sex and GFs but can't get it and they're too delusional and ideologically hypnotized by feminism/leftism to recognize why.

 

[viking22]

The 10% go on dating apps because now it is mainstream there are enough attractive girls on the apps to make it worth their while.

And women are flaky and even for top tier guys they aren't always DTF. So 10% guys have an incentive to hoard women and keep them as an option.

And their presence on the apps creates an illusion of choice and an unfavourable contrast which makes women far less inclined to settle for lesser guys. Even if any matches women get with 10% guys goes nowhere a small part of them rationalizes that the fact they matched with that elite guy means they can eventually get a guy like that and for that reason they keep holding out for an elite guy while complaining bitterly about how dating apps suck (even though even an average looking girl can get hundreds of matches a day and date up. But that isn't enough for them. They don't want to just date up they want to date the best).

And so much of the social programming these days tells women they deserve the best that they don't need a man that they shouldn't settle.

 

[eli77]

Are we surprised? lol

 

[SW15]

For about 90% of men, this is true. The top 10% or so do well with swipe apps.

the top 10% don't need swipe apps
they do just fine without dating apps

For a top tier guy, there's greater efficiency in rotation building on swipe apps than in nightlife venues or non-bar venues.

 

[Slowhandluke]

For a top tier guy, there's greater efficiency in rotation building on swipe apps than in nightlife venues or non-bar venues.

Yeah, right now the apps are basically what women use to "ride the carousel" and what attractive/chad uses to build a "roster". The issue with the apps is that the majority of users (75% IIRC) are male.. average males. A lot of these average male are leaving the platform.. These average males are basically what's keeping afloat the dating apps (pay subscription, etc.) while the chads are "reaping the benefits".

Match group stock is down close to 15% year to date. They need to find other avenues of income. As the apps become even more of a playground for the chads to use women, the women (especially attractive to slightly above average women) will start to leave also. I think we are seeing this. The dating apps are in a doom loop.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

The so called doom loop won’t occur anytime soon. Decades possibly.

I’d say 2% of men get actively hit on in public - they’re model quality. The next 5% clean up on online dating. And success diminishes from there down.

 

[Slowhandluke]

The so called doom loop won’t occur anytime soon. Decades possibly.

I’d say 2% of men get actively hit on in public - they’re model quality. The next 5% clean up on online dating. And success diminishes from there down.

Its happening now. Gen z is leaving the apps. Stock value is down. Match group trying to figure out ways to increase income, etc. Will apps change in time? I don't know. Will apps still be around, sure... but it wouldn't be as popular as a few years ago.

 

[MatureDJ]

For a top tier guy, there's greater efficiency in rotation building on swipe apps than in nightlife venues or non-bar venues.

So are you trying to say that because Chads figure that they would be wasting their time at nightlife venues, the Normies should be able to clean up there?

 

[MatureDJ]

The so called doom loop won’t occur anytime soon. Decades possibly.

I’d say 2% of men get actively hit on in public - they’re model quality. The next 5% clean up on online dating. And success diminishes from there down.

It's OVER for 93%Cels.

 

[SW15]

So are you trying to say that because Chads figure that they would be wasting their time at nightlife venues, the Normies should be able to clean up there?

No. Normies would not be able to clean up in nightlife venues.

Top tier guys do well both on swipe apps and in nightlife venues. There is a point where swipe apps might become more efficient for a certain level of man than late nights in a nightlife venue for rotation building. It depends on what the man wants.

Plenty of top tier men use nightlife venues for sex.

Swipe apps, Instagram DMs, nightlife venues, and non-bar approaching will all work well for a top tier man. It depends on what the top tier man wants to focus on in his game.

 

[Bigpapa]

For about 90% of men, this is true. The top 10% or so do well with swipe apps.

I am talking about the quality of women on the apps, not if you manage to get laid or not

I have normal looking guys and they manage to get laid from time to time from apps with normal looking women

 

[SW15]

Yeah, right now the apps are basically what women use to "ride the carousel" and what attractive/chad uses to build a "roster". The issue with the apps is that the majority of users (75% IIRC) are male.. average males. A lot of these average male are leaving the platform.. These average males are basically what's keeping afloat the dating apps (pay subscription, etc.) while the chads are "reaping the benefits".

Match group stock is down close to 15% year to date. They need to find other avenues of income. As the apps become even more of a playground for the chads to use women, the women (especially attractive to slightly above average women) will start to leave also. I think we are seeing this. The dating apps are in a doom loop.

It is the correct decision for average men to leave the platform.

However, where can average men do better? Nightlife venues? Daygame?

Think about Gen Z for a moment. The oldest Gen Z'ers were born in 1997. They've grown up well into the internet era. Does someone born in 1997-2005 have the interpersonal skills to approach women in real life given that they've grown up with technology and avoiding human interaction? It's questionable.

 

[Slowhandluke]

It is the correct decision for average men to leave the platform.

However, where can average men do better? Nightlife venues? Daygame?

Think about Gen Z for a moment. The oldest Gen Z'ers were born in 1997. They've grown up well into the internet era. Does someone born in 1997-2005 have the interpersonal skills to approach women in real life given that they've grown up with technology and avoiding human interaction? It's questionable.

in the past, societies answer was to stop Chad's from F'ing the majority of girls and slvt shame women so they wouldn't become cat ladies.

men have always had issues with interpersonal skills, approaching women, etc.. it's a scientific fact men have less empathy, social skills, etc as compared to women. on that front nothing has changed. what has changed is society giving women the choice to sleep arround and women are taking it and choosing Chad's in hopes Chad's will pick her in the long run.

if the past solutions are unobtainable, then the winning move is to not play.

 

[corrector]

It is the correct decision for average men to leave the platform.

However, where can average men do better? Nightlife venues? Daygame?

Onlyfans

 

[escaleraroyal]

I know some Gen Z guys who are fkn a lot.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Onlyfans

yes, unless men can do a better job of educating women that some men only want the P, and nothing else. most of these men will be chads.

also men must also do a better job educating women that they are likely average and deserve average guys, not Chad thunder ****.

basically deprogram feminism from women. if not, the average man and the average woman suffer together.

 

[corrector]

yes, unless men can do a better job of educating women that some men only want the P, and nothing else. most of these men will be chads.

also men must also do a better job educating women that they are likely average and deserve average guys, not Chad thunder ****.

basically deprogram feminism from women. if not, the average man and the average woman suffer together.

The average woman is still getting laid though.

 

[The Duke]

I know dating apps aren't what they used to be. But does that means you should give up?

Have you ever competed on a professional level as an amateur? Chess, poker, sports, etc. I have and got my ass handed too me. But guess what I went to work and improved my situation. Eventually I made it to the semi pro level in a few things.

You either make personal changes to improve your situation or go back to playing sand lot ball.

There is so much "it's too hard" attitude these days. Not enough, I am working to better myself so I can play on a higher level.

I've started at the bottom of several things in life. I put in the work, improved myself, and advanced to the next level many times.

Most of you lack grit and try. It takes a strong man to acknowledge his weaknesses and do something about them.

You would rather sit here and mental masturbate why the deck is stacked.

Defeatists attitudes. Sickening.

 

[corrector]

I know dating apps aren't what they used to be. But does that means you should give up?

Have you ever competed on a professional level as an amateur? Chess, poker, sports, etc. I have and got my ass handed too me. But guess what I went to work and improved my situation. Eventually I made it to the semi pro level in a few things.

How would that work with diminishing returns? Games follow rules. With dating, it could appear the goal-posts themselves keep moving. If you look at @BergischerLöwe posts, for example, he used the dating apps in the past, had some limited success, and now the ROI is worst, and he's getting worst results now than before (no matches or way worst matches then before if he does get them). He had all the time to learn how to improve any dating app game and should operating as a pro. What would you think the issue is on his case?

You also have veteran posters like @SW15 that cry down online dating for normies, and you have very masculine posters like @AmsterdamAssassin, who by their own admission, do not use dating apps because the ROI is not worth it ot him.

So I don't think it is as simple as an argument as you are presenting.

Now, if you were to say, give up on apps and just deal with women IRL, cold-approach, etc... then that would be another story. However, that depends on the individual and how much time they have to potential use since these are extremely time consuming activities, and honestly is no fun, especially if you get blown off, rejected and ignored. Even getting paid to do something that is not fun is hard in its own right. If you don't need the money badly enough, you'd quit that job.

 

[Slowhandluke]

The average woman is still getting laid though.

yes, pumped and dumped. congratulations to her??? I guess???