Are these Selena fans like closet lessies?

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Just another submissive woman wanting to look good for her man
One can't help but be intrigued by the many ways SG's lyrics can be interpreted:

"I'm on my 14 carats
I'm 14 carat
Doing it up like Midas
Now you say I got a touch
So good, so good
Make you never wanna leave
So don't, so don't
Gonna wear that dress you like, skin-tight
Do my hair up real, real nice
And syncopate my skin to your heart beating
'Cause I just wanna look good for you, good for you, oh-oh
I just wanna look good for you, good for you, oh-oh
Let me show you how proud I am to be yours
Leave this dress a mess on the floor
Still look good for you, good for you, oh-oh
I'm on my marquise diamonds
I'm a marquise diamond
I'm a marquise diamond
Could even make that Tiffany jealous
You say I give it to you hard
So bad, so bad
Make you never wanna leave
I won't, I won't
Gonna wear that dress you like, skin-tight
Do my hair up real, real nice
And syncopate my skin to how you're breathing
'Cause I just wanna look good for you, good for you, oh-oh
I just wanna look good for you, good for you, oh-oh
Let me show you how proud I am to be yours
Leave this dress a mess on the floor
Still look good for you, good for you, oh-oh, oh-oh, oh
Oh-oh, oh-oh, oh
Trust me, I can take you there
Trust me, I can take you there"

Parts of that are arguably "submissive". Seems to me though that comparing herself to gold and diamonds, boasting that her touch is so sensual her man will never want to leave, vowing to syncopate herself to her lover's heartbeat, etc are all displays of power. She's letting everyone in earshot know how desirable she is
 

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She's qualifying like a demon, like a good submissive does to her Dominant.

I prefer Lana, though.
"Qualifying", or reveling in how desirable and satisfying she is to her man, like a dude grandstanding over what a p-ssy magnet he is and how skillfull he is at bringing every chick he beds to climax. One can interpret this in a few different ways

Yeah... Del Ray is far more of a serious artist than SG is
 

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"Qualifying", or reveling in how desirable and satisfying she is to her man, like a dude grandstanding over what a p-ssy magnet he is and how skillfull he is at bringing every chick he beds to climax. One can interpret this in a few different ways

Yeah... Del Ray is far more of a serious artist than SG is
Dal Ray has some wild music videos that I would be breaking my work rules if I played the music video at work. Summertime Sadness has two lesbian lovers comitting suicide. The other one, Chemtrails from Country Club starts off nice and lovely then decends into pure madness and she warewolf territory. But one can argue that Selena is not appropriate for work either. But she is more sensually inappropriate than occultic inappropriate.
 

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Just another submissive woman wanting to look good for her man. I fail to see how her fans are lesbians... This is just an insipid teenybopper song. Viewing that clip as 'softcore porno' shows the mental level of the viewer.
Let's also note that Matt Lauer provides the intro there. It wasn't too long after this that he fell afoul of MeToo
 

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To be fair, even back in '15, there were folks decrying the song as "problematic" and "insufficiently feminist" https://compassionthemovement.wordpress.com/2015/09/03/selena-gomezs-good-for-you-isnt-all-that-good-for-you/#:~:text=The first issue is that,crutch for your self worth

Difference between then and today: Almost EVERY mainstream publication reads like those two articles
Alan Carr


Would almost certainly be deemed "Problematic", if he were to give an intervention like that today
 

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Un-PC as what I'm about to write may be in the eyes of some, SG's cultural background likely does have some bearing here...

Among Hispanic women, there's significantly less stigma around women taking pains to look and be sexy for their men, and there's no shame in these gals "showing everyone how proud she is to be his"
 

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This is Selena's concert back in 2015. The music video she made with the music seemed like some sort of soft core porn.


You would have expected it to have been more guys that would have been into a song like that with an actual live concert, but was surprized that it's mainly hot young women attending there and cheering her on like that. How can these many women be excited over a song like that?
Open lesbos


ARE grooving to this particular tune
 

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Any environment where the press is intimidated into carrying a party line isn't healthy
Case in point... That second article linked


Begins with the sentence:
"How is it possible that in 2015 we have regressed so far regarding feminism? I am by no means a feminist; however, I do have self-respect and I want people to respect me as well"

As recently as '15, the social climate of The US was such that folks(Especially many women)were regularly and declaring, "I'm not a feminist". Today, it's extremely rare to see anyone writing for a mainstream-sorta independent publication NOT announce their allegiance, or at very least fellow travelership, with Feminism/Intersectionality more generally

Hell, it's rare to see anyone in The Manosphere or who's Manosphere adjacent not regularly preface their comments by either declaring themselves Red Pill, or at the very least professing their allyship with said religion
 

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I remember from decades ago how a woman who just wanted to be a housewife was lambasted by a group of feminists about wanting to 'sit at home and take care of the kids' was not what they (the feminists) had fought for.
They're quite similar to the most prominent figures in The Men's Rights Movement, such as this admitted(and 8th rate*) Tom Leykis impersonator and all-around buffoon


Who preaches the virtues of MGTOW, while himself having spent the past 20 years in what's effectively a common law marriage**. While I have my own objections to jargonized Red Pill notions like "maintaining frame"(We used to just say "Lead with your woman. This starts with developing the capacity for self-leadership"), one can only conclude:

If these keyboard warriors and slacktivists are this violently opposed to men pursuing women and rich lives of their own(All the things most MRAs themselves have, in other words), they probably aren't propents of human freedom, so much as they are another activist clique who are hellbent on taking over society


*Leykis, for all his flaws, was a hell of a lot more fun than Elam ever was. To describe the latter's woefully shallow ramblings as "depressing" would be entirely too generous. Loudly and often as he and his ilk doth screech: "We're nothing like feminists!!!", one can't help but notice the many similarities(Physical and psychological) between himself and Andrea Dworkin


**On those rare occasions in which PE is called out on his hypocrisy, he trots out a characteristically pathetic equivocation: "I'm not married, not FORMALLY!!!" He just took a few puffs off that crack pipe, apparently.... But he DID NOT inhale!!!
 

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Case in point... That second article linked


Begins with the sentence:
"How is it possible that in 2015 we have regressed so far regarding feminism? I am by no means a feminist; however, I do have self-respect and I want people to respect me as well"

As recently as '15, the social climate of The US was such that folks(Especially many women)were regularly and declaring, "I'm not a feminist". Today, it's extremely rare to see anyone writing for a mainstream-sorta independent publication NOT announce their allegiance, or at very least fellow travelership, with Feminism/Intersectionality more generally

Hell, it's rare to see anyone in The Manosphere or who's Manosphere adjacent not regularly preface their comments by either declaring themselves Red Pill, or at the very least professing their allyship with said religion
I looked at the article. It looks like someone got triggered by that video. Was a jokey read actually because it sounds like the author is jealosu of her because she is so hot.
 

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She writes: "By dressing in order to impress men, you’ll never find the gentlemen most ladies desire."

She doesn't understand the lyrics....
Especially the part where SG mentions the clothes coming off, and still looking scrumptious for her man :confused: :p
 

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I remember from decades ago how a woman who just wanted to be a housewife was lambasted by a group of feminists about wanting to 'sit at home and take care of the kids' was not what they (the feminists) had fought for.
One shudders to imagine the meltdown that would occur today, if an up and coming pop princess released a song like


Even though this is clearly NOT a celebration of domestic violence
 

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She writes: "By dressing in order to impress men, you’ll never find the gentlemen most ladies desire."

She doesn't understand the lyrics...
Or reality, for that matter... Those who devote minimal-no effort towards their appearance won't be attracting anything, except whatever is lurking at the bottom of the barrel. That saying as much* ("Your chances of not just finding a high-quality mate but being treated with respect and dignity by the world at large, increase dramatically, when you're well-kempt") out loud has now become a stoning offense shows how far upside down our society has turned since the late 2000s-15

The world we inhabit today might as well be a separate dimension from the one in which series like Mad Men and Gossip Girl were feted, and the lifestyles depicted therein were considered what was most desirable


*Though as stated prior, women taking pains to look and be sexy for their men, and "showing everyone how proud she is to be his" isn't especially stigmatized among Hispanics, the tribe from which Gomez happens to hail

Hell, as a child of recent-ish immigrants to The US myself, I've noticed: It's mostly upper class Whites who find this particular talking point("Be conscious of your appearance. Only animals walk around looking bedraggled") controversial. Among every other demographic in America, this is largely considered self-evident
 
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