Are there guys here from non-western sphere of the world who are Don Juans ?

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I see a whole lot of people from America and Europe here. Where are the Asian dudes? Where are the African dudes (like those who live in Africa, not in the west). Does Game/Don Juaning not work outside of the western sphere of the world?
 

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TBH, I think most incels/hardcore pillers consist of these types of guys because they are unattractive to the average western women regardless of how much money they have. These are the type of people to go pay for a consultation with AMS or something.
 

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TBH, I think most incels/hardcore pillers consist of these types of guys because they are unattractive to the average western women regardless of how much money they have. These are the type of people to go pay for a consultation with AMS or something.
Which is why i meant outside of the western sphere in terms of geographic location...? I kind of disagree with the "average western women". Korean guys are a rage nowadays...

There are extremely attractive women in Asia and Africa as well ya know.

I've personally known someone who was a "natural" in Asia, it was crazy to watch him pick up girls. Like a magician. And he was lazy. If he was willing to put sincere effort, i dunno what he would be doing...

It was seeing him in action that got me here on this site, although he never studied game a day in his life.
 

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TBH, I think most incels/hardcore pillers consist of these types of guys because they are unattractive to the average western women regardless of how much money they have. These are the type of people to go pay for a consultation with AMS or something.
What are pillers btw?
 

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Which is why i meant outside of the western sphere in terms of geographic location...? I kind of disagree with the "average western women". Korean guys are a rage nowadays...

There are extremely attractive women in Asia and Africa as well ya know.

I've personally known someone who was a "natural" in Asia, it was crazy to watch him pick up girls. Like a magician. And he was lazy. If he was willing to put sincere effort, i dunno what he would be doing...

It was seeing him in action that got me here on this site, although he never studied game a day in his life.
Well your average western woman isn't going to be open to dating a non-Christian man with a different set of values over a western man. Now if these men decided to westernize then they wouldn't have as many issues in dating. Buddhism is more collaborative in dating across religions and cultures than Islam and Hinduism, so it is easier for someone to date a Korean over an Indian, Nigerian, or Pakistani. Religion is just the bigger bone to pick, but it obviously expands past that. These guys are choosing the biggest uphill battle and going for typical white women that would much rather date a westernized Bud Light Chad over some guy that is completely foriegn to them.
 
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Well your average western woman isn't going to be open to dating a non-Christian man with a different set of values over a western man. Now if these men decided to westernize then they wouldn't have as many issues in dating. Buddhism is more collaborative in dating across religions and cultures than Islam and Hinduism, so it is easier for someone to date a Korean over an Indian, Nigerian, or Pakistani. Religion is just the bigger bone to pick, but it obviously expands past that. These guys are choosing the biggest uphill battle and going for typical white women that would much rather date a westernized Bud Light Chad over some Abuja that smells like curry and dresses weird to them.
Man, there is so much racism and lack of awareness in what you wrote its crazy.

I explicitly said outside western geography and you keep going on and on about white women..

To educate you slightly, Korea is half Christian and half Buddhist. If you ever read religion you will realize Islam and Hindooism are worlds apart, given Islam explicity forbids marriage without conversion to Islam and Hindooism has no restrictions on marriage to anyone (Buddhism came from Hindooism so it makes sense).

But some of your points do stand. It makes sense then why some of the 2nd and 3rd gen immigrants from Africa and Asia are more successful with white women then, they've "westernized" to quote you.
 

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I explicitly said outside western geography and you keep going on and on about white women..
White women are the ones being chased after the most in the west.

To educate you slightly, Korea is half Christian and half Buddhist. If you ever read religion you will realize Islam and Hindooism are worlds apart, given Islam explicity forbids marriage without conversion to Islam and Hindooism has no restrictions on marriage to anyone (Buddhism came from Hindooism so it makes sense).
My point was that they are both completely incompatible for dating western women. The only western women you see marrying these guys are sjws. I have dated a Muslim, Hindu, and Buddhist and the Buddhist was much more compatible by far. I am also not a devout Christian and pretty open minded, so this is saying a lot.

But some of your points do stand. It makes sense then why some of the 2nd and 3rd gen immigrants from Africa and Asia are more successful with white women then, they've "westernized" to quote you.
Have you heard of the phrase when in rome, do what the romans do?
 

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It works, and I've helped a few friends here. The issues hit subtly but deep as I've observed. It's not quickly obvious how most guys lack game - it's all thinly veiled in bravado and macho traits.
 

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It works, and I've helped a few friends here. The issues hit subtly but deep as I've observed. It's not quickly obvious how most guys lack game - it's all thinly veiled in bravado and macho traits.
Yeah, few guys here have game. Which is good news for Asian dudes who know game, you instantly stand out..they do try to make up for it with Machismo and bravado..
 

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Which is why i meant outside of the western sphere in terms of geographic location...? I kind of disagree with the "average western women". Korean guys are a rage nowadays...

There are extremely attractive women in Asia and Africa as well ya know.

I've personally known someone who was a "natural" in Asia, it was crazy to watch him pick up girls. Like a magician. And he was lazy. If he was willing to put sincere effort, i dunno what he would be doing...

It was seeing him in action that got me here on this site, although he never studied game a day in his life.
I really like hearing about real naturals game. If you get a chance. Can you tell us about how this natural gamed girls?
 

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I'm Asian. Not self-claiming to be a DJ or anything, but I'm doing well in terms of seducing women and personal growth. I'm reaching my mid 30s, not in very good shape, and average income. But I have no debts and no serious medical condition.
 

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White women are the ones being chased after the most in the west.
This is so true. White men tend to prefer White women, which is understandable. White men have become thirstier for White women in recent decades. There are some non-White men who seem to prefer pursuing White women to their own races/ethnicities too.

Well your average western woman isn't going to be open to dating a non-Christian man with a different set of values over a western man. These guys are choosing the biggest uphill battle and going for typical white women that would much rather date a westernized Bud Light Chad over some guy that is completely foriegn to them.
The #1 choice for a White woman will be tall White men who are fit/has bigger muscles.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Tons of bs in this thread. I say that respectfully by the way.

Which is why i meant outside of the western sphere in terms of geographic location...? I kind of disagree with the "average western women". Korean guys are a rage nowadays...

There are extremely attractive women in Asia and Africa as well ya know.

I've personally known someone who was a "natural" in Asia, it was crazy to watch him pick up girls. Like a magician. And he was lazy. If he was willing to put sincere effort, i dunno what he would be doing...

It was seeing him in action that got me here on this site, although he never studied game a day in his life.
The moment he first noticed he liked girls was the day he studied game.

And when he learned how to approach he refined his study of the game. Extremely naive to think that this man didn't observed his own interactions with women and left /added whatever didn't or did work.

If anything you should dig into your memory and LEARN from him instead of reinventing the wheel.

TBH, I think most incels/hardcore pillers consist of these types of guys because they are unattractive to the average western women regardless of how much money they have. These are the type of people to go pay for a consultation with AMS or something.
Domt know why this comment hits so wrong. Feels extremely prejudicial ALTHOUGH i kinda get it..I'll have ti figure it out yet
This is so true. White men tend to prefer White women, which is understandable. White men have become thirstier for White women in recent decades. There are some non-White men who seem to prefer pursuing White women to their own races/ethnicities too.



The #1 choice for a White woman will be tall White men who are fit/has bigger muscles.
Again a conclusion that is hard to disprove, or prove, yet it feels like cope. A hot dude=a hot dude. I'll be hardpressed to see a woman declone a top5 percenter because he's not white. Lets say that the non white top 5 percenter will tell you a COMPLETELY different story about white women..
 

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Again a conclusion that is hard to disprove, or prove, yet it feels like cope. A hot dude=a hot dude. I'll be hardpressed to see a woman declone a top5 percenter because he's not white. Lets say that the non white top 5 percenter will tell you a COMPLETELY different story about white women..
It's not supposed to be a cope in any way.

A non-White top 5% guy will be able to have sex with White women. The problem is that most men don't reach the Top 5%, White or non-White.

In general, most people have an easier time dating within their own ethnicity/race than outside of it.

At one time, I knew an Indian-American male with a STEM job and an average to slightly below average physique. He was in bougie/yuppie trying to seduce bougie/yuppie White American women. That's not going to happen. The bougie/yuppie White women were seeking top tier men, often White top tier men. Even a 70th percentile White male was going to have a challenge with that type of White woman.
 
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It's not supposed to be a cope in any way.

A non-White top 5% guy will be able to have sex with White women. The problem is that most men don't reach the Top 5%, White or non-White.

In general, most people have an easier time dating within their own ethnicity/race than outside of it.
We dont carry a sign on our backs saying" top 37 percenter". Its how we carry ourselves and if specific woman xyz we deal with views us as a top(fill in a nr) percenter. 5 is a stretch. Might as well be 30.

I agree that dating within your own race MIGHT be easier for SOME men. But all of that goes out the window when woman xyz ALSO like men from race xyz. Let me say, dating within your own race shouldn't limit your pool if you're already struggling to pull.
 

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At one time, I knew an Indian-American male with a STEM job and an average to slightly below average physique. He was in bougie/yuppie trying to seduce bougie/yuppie White American women. That's not going to happen. The bougie/yuppie White women were seeking top tier men, often White top tier men. Even a 70th percentile White male was going to have a challenge with that type of White woman.
I agree that dating within your own race MIGHT be easier for SOME men. But all of that goes out the window when woman xyz ALSO like men from race xyz. Let me say, dating within your own race shouldn't limit your pool if you're already struggling to pull.
In the example above, the Indian-American male would have been more likely to have successful with average to below average Indian/Indian-American women. Many men who knew this guy tried to tell him to stop pursuing White women who were in the 5.5 - 8 range.
 

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In the example above, the Indian-American male would have been more likely to have successful with average to below average Indian/Indian-American women. Many men who knew this guy tried to tell him to stop pursuing White women who were in the 5.5 - 8 range.
If he'd follow that advice he would shrink his pool even further. Much further actually. Because here's the problem: he WILL run into Indian women who are ofcourse westernized and probably, just like the white women he pursued, rather go for white/latin/black men.

If I for example meet a woman from my country I already get cautious. Because women from my area are TROUBLE. When i say I am a father people ALWAYS ask me if my baby motheris black as well. No she's white. Oh oke. Just an example of how much more complex these dynamics are.

I am yet a firm believer that even in such a case something was off about his game . Also you can't conclude that eventually he got a Indian woman and lived happily ever after. Stil a possible might be could be theory.
 
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