Are Sugar Daddy sites for real or a scam?

[4everyoung]

I'm 66 and recently divorced mainly because I wanted to continue having sex and my ex did not so she let herself go to discourage my desire. The way I see it, my chances of finding a woman remotely my age that wants sex as much as I do is pretty slim. I don't believe they exist. I am in excellent shape, look 40's, act and feel 20's. Anyone here play the "Sugar" game? What other options do I have?

 

[Ricky]

I know a guy that went that route for a year.
It got expensive, and he got very attached to one of them and later depressed about it

 

[Bokanovsky]

I'm 66 and recently divorced mainly because I wanted to continue having sex and my ex did not so she let herself go to discourage my desire. The way I see it, my chances of finding a woman remotely my age that wants sex as much as I do is pretty slim. I don't believe they exist. I am in excellent shape, look 40's, act and feel 20's. Anyone here play the "Sugar" game? What other options do I have?

It's basically prostitution except with a lot of unnecessary ambiguity thrown in. I suppose the "plausible deniability" aspect of it may appeal to some men (and make it unlikely for one to be prosecuted as a john) but at the end of the day, it is what it is. Also, from what I understand, some "sugar babies" will try to string you along and get some money without providing the requisite "services", so in that sense it can be a scam. It's not like you can sue them like you would sue a plumber who took a deposit but failed to fix your toilet. Potential legal issues aside, it would seem that escorts are a more straightforward and honesty option.

 

[4everyoung]

Thanks for offering your take on the subject. I have not really given it much consideration as a legitimate option but since they are out their continuing to function then I figured they may have some merit. My dilemma is I do believe that I would be most compatible with women around my age but their interest in seamed to have sex among them has waned long ago. Much younger women that do still have some resemblance of a libido don't seam to have much interest in dating me (at lease on the dating sites like Bumble and Hinge where my age is advertised). I may have better luck in person like bars, clubs, dances, etc. because I look, act, and feel much younger that I am. However my schedule is not very kind to that lifestyle. I own and operate 2 businesses, work out at the gym 3 times a week, keep up with my house and yard, go to bed by 9 and get up at 5 every day. Do you have any input on a strategy for my situation?

 

[4everyoung]

I know a guy that went that route for a year.
It got expensive, and he got very attached to one of them and later depressed about it

Thank for that testimony. I'm sure it's not cheap but neither is conventional dating. Getting depressed is a choice he made and sounds like he had little or no emotional discipline. But the fact he did try it for a year and had some success says something that it could work if played correctly.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Thank for that testimony. I'm sure it's not cheap but neither is conventional dating.

Since they are paid company, you should compare it with prostitution, not with conventional dating, because it is a form of prostitution.

Getting depressed is a choice he made and sounds like he had little or no emotional discipline.

Getting emotionally attached to sex workers can be depressing. It's a risk that happens to a lot of wh0remongers. That risk increases when the prostitution and *****monger is a pretend relationship with emotional attachment, as with 'sugar babies'.

This forum is intended for socially awkward men to learn how to interact with women. Other members here have been told not to discuss prostitution or virtual sex workers, since paying for sex has nothing to do with 'seduction'. I am amazed that the moderators haven't shut down this thread, but expect that to happen at any time now.

 

[4everyoung]

Well, I never thought about it as a form of prostitution otherwise why are they still allowed to operate? I don't know, that's why I asked. I would have thought since they are somewhat popular that there would be some members here that had some experience with using those sites. Maybe I need to rephrase my post to better reflect the nature of the subject that I'm driving at which is - what options does a "mature man (66), that is recently divorced and used to somewhat regular sex, have for finding a mate (woman) as interested in sex as I am?

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Well, I never thought about it as a form of prostitution otherwise why are they still allowed to operate?

Because they pretend not to be prostitution.
Just like setting up a film camera and paying a woman to be filmed while sucking your penis so it can be labelled 'porn'.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Maybe I need to rephrase my post to better reflect the nature of the subject that I'm driving at which is - what options does a "mature man (66), that is recently divorced and used to somewhat regular sex, have for finding a mate (woman) as interested in sex as I am?

And maybe you should do that in a new thread so the mods can lock this one.

 

[4everyoung]

I don't think there is anything wrong with this thread. I suppose we'll see. Sometimes I have a hard time differentiating between prostitution and conventional dating. I mean we spend Money out the wazoo wining and dining a woman in hopes of getting some. Women on dating site look for income levels over 100K or they don't give the time of day. What do you call that? I certainly am not advocating or supporting what is illegal but dating today appears to me to be a whole new ballgame. I'm just trying to learn the new rules.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

what options does a "mature man (66), that is recently divorced and used to somewhat regular sex, have for finding a mate (woman) as interested in sex as I am?

Any girl you meet on a sugar baby site isn't going to be interested in having sex with you. She'll do it only to get your money.

And she'll use all her female ninja skills to minimize the sex she has to have with you and maximize the money she can get out of you.

"Having success" on a sugar baby site is not any different than having success with a hooker or a happy ending massage girl.

You pay her, she bangs you.

Just like a prostitute.

 

[4everyoung]

The way I look at it no deal is better than a bad deal and you have to walk away if it is not right. Weather it be with wife, girlfriend, prostitute, employer/employee, car dealer etc. Read "The Art of the Deal" I guess you gotta think with the right "head" to score the best deal. I am curious as to know if you have had experienced this personally or know of a lot of guys that found this information out first hand? How did you come by this information? I would really appreciate you sharing that with me Brother.

 

[Chow Mein]

Any girl you meet on a sugar baby site isn't going to be interested in having sex with you. She'll do it only to get your money.

And she'll use all her female ninja skills to minimize the sex she has to have with you and maximize the money she can get out of you.

"Having success" on a sugar baby site is not any different than having success with a hooker or a happy ending massage girl.

You pay her, she bangs you.

Just like a prostitute.

There’s this guy on here a decade ago, @bigniel42 or something, who wanted to game these strippers. The game these women play are on another level

 

[The Duke]

I've got a buddy that has dated many sugar babies. I've met several of them and know how the story played out.

He(late 40's) was always pretty cheap, but in good shape and fun to be with. He played them as much as they played him. There was almost always drama at some point. Most of these women are really insecure, entitled, selfish, superficial, don't like to work, have few skills, and are fuhking more than one guy.

The guy they like the most is who they expect the least from. A 66yo will have to put out some serious cash/gifts to keep a 25yo hottie around and be ok with getting flaked on. She will also be fuhking another guy that pays her very little but is younger and more fun.

I know older rich guys that put these wh0res up in furnished apartments and give them a credit card. These same wh0res are at the luxury bars looking for better deals.

Many of these girls are tired of their current sugar daddy and looking for the next guy to book her flight from LA/Miami to wherever you are. Once you agreee to the flight, she will want accomodations paid for.

I tried it once. Not my thing. I just couldn't bring myself to pay someone to like me.

You might get lucky and find an attractive mid 30's girl that you don't have to spend much on. My buddy had two of those. Both damaged goods.

If you have a little charm, I'd just hit the $trip clubs and collect a few phone numbers.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Probably the best thing to do is to realise you pay for play and check the ROI. You'll find that if you lack the charm to attract women, just going to a prostitute would give you the best bang for your buck. And I'm sure you're able to find a prostitute, so this thread can be closed.

 

[Chow Mein]

I've got a buddy that has dated many sugar babies. I've met several of them and know how the story played out.

He(late 40's) was always pretty cheap, but in good shape and fun to be with. He played them as much as they played him. There was almost always drama at some point. Most of these women are really insecure, entitled, selfish, superficial, don't like to work, have few skills, and are fuhking more than one guy.

The guy they like the most is who they expect the least from. A 66yo will have to put out some serious cash/gifts to keep a 25yo hottie around and be ok with getting flaked on. She will also be fuhking another guy that pays her very little but is younger and more fun.

I know older rich guys that put these wh0res up in furnished apartments and give them a credit card. These same wh0res are at the luxury bars looking for better deals.

Many of these girls are tired of their current sugar daddy and looking for the next guy to book her flight from LA/Miami to wherever you are. Once you agreee to the flight, she will want accomodations paid for.

I tried it once. Not my thing. I just couldn't bring myself to pay someone to like me.

You might get lucky and find an attractive mid 30's girl that you don't have to spend much on. My buddy had two of those. Both damaged goods.

If you have a little charm, I'd just hit the $trip clubs and collect a few phone numbers.

I’ve had little experience with these women, they are always looking for the next deal. I find setting the engagement boundaries initially goes a long way in creating the short-term experience both parties want. Emotional detachment is required from the man. The goal is to create emotional bond with the woman and let her get lost in her own.

Creating that emotional bond take effort initially, but once you made that foundation, it becomes ‘easier.’ However, you must accept the engagement will be short-lived.

I’ve been lucky to have these experiences with very minimal financial investment.

 

[DJ Novice]

Just stick to escorts. Less financial investment, less hassle and your options in terms of variety (age, looks, nationality, body type etc.) are endless.

I’ve never paid for s*x but I suspect if that is your only form of female affection/company it will get soul destroying aeventually.

I think the best of both worlds at your age is to have a close female companion that you connect with emotionally and socially around your own age plus discretely bang some escorts when the urge arises.

Keep the escorts purely for s*x and don’t get emotionally attached. Probably best not to see the same escort more than three times to ensure this doesn’t happen.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Just stick to escorts. Less financial investment, less hassle and your options in terms of variety (age, looks, nationality, body type etc.) are endless.
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Keep the escorts purely for s*x and don’t get emotionally attached. Probably best not to see the same escort more than three times to ensure this doesn’t happen.

Now that is sorted, do we keep this thread open to discuss how to 'open' a prostitute or how to 'seduce' her with a wad of cash, or can this thread just be closed before we start advising members to pay for sex?