Are males who buy sex disgusting?

[MatureDJ]

That being said, I think there is still one big disgusting red-flag element out of all this. The fact is the guy you just saw walk out of her apartment before you walked in will hit home that this lady may be seeing more than one guy that same day. Some of them do not clean up. Imagine going on a bed that is wet, or seeing her still dirty from the previous guy after you paid her, what you call "evidence of traffic". That to me is very disgusting to the point of nausea.

My experience with prostitutes in Amsterdam was that it felt amazingly sanitary. Every single 'ho I got smelled like a deodorant commercial - even the ones whose breath smelled of Mary Jane.

 

[MatureDJ]

Only makes sence if you are going to bang 20 girls in a week or so....which I think would also be disgusting. So yeah, people who buy sex with 20 women in a week are probably very disgusting.

I once did 15 women in 4 days (including 6 in 1 day) in Amsterdam. (Of course, I probably did a few more than once, but I am counting it by each session.) Ah, the pleasure of rock bottom wham-bam-thank-you-mam and a strong US dollar - $20 per session for very sexy white women - I understand now that the women have basically doubled the price, and with the weak dollar, it's now $70 .

 

[sstype]

How can any guy here be against paying for sex?

Look at all the posts that deride women as "sluts" and "cheap" for "giving it up" too easy. But then these same guys turn around and bash women who at least get something of value (money) for sex as "dirty"

But then its perfectly normal and ok to spend x amount hours spitting "game" (opportunity cost of time) spending x amount of money on dates with no guarantee that she will actually have sex with you.

Guys create this contradictory nonsense where paying for sex is dirty(unless its through dates and time spent trying to weasel your way into her pants); But getting it for free because, *gasp* she's actually a human being who enjoys sex, is nasty and slutty.

Goes back to RTs old saying "Guys hate sluts/Wh*res because they're not HIS sluts/Wh*res"

 

[( . )( . )]

Everyone buys sex. Some pay in drinks, some pay in time and attention, some pay in efforts to get rich, famous, etc. Some just pay cash.

The sexual marketplace exists. It follows economic law as well as any market for any good.

Morality is used by the powerful to control the weak.

This cat knows his sh!t.

+1

 

[( . )( . )]

I once did 15 women in 4 days (including 6 in 1 day) in Amsterdam. (Of course, I probably did a few more than once, but I am counting it by each session.) Ah, the pleasure of rock bottom wham-bam-thank-you-mam and a strong US dollar - $20 per session for very sexy white women - I understand now that the women have basically doubled the price, and with the weak dollar, it's now $70 .

I've heard some of those birds are mint. I'll be there in less than a week for a bucks party and gonna get me some tasty samplers. (when in Rome)

Never actually paid for it before, well technically I've paid in blood, sweat, tears, moronic braindead chick conversation, child support, dinners, birthday presents etc etc like every other bozo with a heartbeat and a working c@ck but never a straight up honest cash transaction. Quite looking forward to it to be honest, if I'm not passed out early on that is, only there for 1 night so it will be touch and go.

Any advice?

 

[iqqi]

For those of you who are FOR prostitution, especially in other countries, do you ever try to make sure you are not paying for an enslaved woman?

I personally can see a few things wrong with prostitution but overall I am not over the top against it. However I do see a huge red line in between women who are doing it because they choose to, and women who were kidnapped or forced into the industry, which is a huge deal right now.

 

[( . )( . )]

For those of you who are FOR prostitution, especially in other countries, do you ever try to make sure you are not paying for an enslaved woman?

Pffffft "enslaved women".... Biggest load of media hyped wank since the Tiger Woods saga. How often does it really happen though? these phucks would have us all thinking it's an epidemic. I think not.

A white knights wet dream.

 

[iqqi]

Pffffft "enslaved women".... Biggest load of media hyped wank since the Tiger Woods saga. How often does it really happen though? these phucks would have us all thinking it's an epidemic. I think not.

A white knights wet dream.

Are you serious? This sh!t is rampant in the USA right now, and I am sure even moreso in other countries that aren't so gungho on "freedom".

I know of recent local cases in iqqiville even, which is collegetown usa. Not to mention the fields in San Diego, which was a recent big story. That is just the USA.

Ignorance is bliss?

 

[KarmaSutra]

Everyone buys sex. Some pay in drinks, some pay in time and attention, some pay in efforts to get rich, famous, etc. Some just pay cash.

The sexual marketplace exists. It follows economic law as well as any market for any good.

Man, how true is this.

Brother Scrouds has one of the most intense stares I've ever witnessed. He's like Gary Oldman's Dracula the way he can mesmerize with his eyes.

And a damned fine cigar guy too.

 

[( . )( . )]

Are you serious? This sh!t is rampant in the USA right now, and I am sure even moreso in other countries that aren't so gungho on "freedom".

I know of recent local cases in iqqiville even, which is collegetown usa. Not to mention the fields in San Diego, which was a recent big story. That is just the USA.

Ignorance is bliss?

Not really sold, lets not forget we are bombarded by a feminized media and obviously any chance for a " hard done by womenz in distress" story is always top headlined and beaten to death. Yet these actual sex slave stories seem to be few and far between. Think about it, a blown apart all parties charged sex slave scandal is positively boner inducing for our bassackwards media but oddly enough we hear phuck all specifics and facts about all these "enslaved women".

And to add, aren't there a bunch of charities set up to bust these organisations, so they definately have the funds but where are the FACTS, where are the named and shamed for all these enslaved women.

Do you see my conundrum?

 

[iqqi]

Not really sold, lets not forget we are bombarded by a feminized media and obviously any chance for a " hard done by womenz in distress" story is always top headlined and beaten to death. Yet these actual sex slave stories seem to be few and far between. Think about it, a blown apart all parties charged sex slave scandal is positively boner inducing for our bassackwards media but oddly enough we hear phuck all specifics and facts about all these "enslaved women".

And to add, aren't there a bunch of charities set up to bust these organisations, so they definately have the funds but where are the FACTS, where are the named and shamed for all these enslaved women.

Do you see my conundrum?

I think that most human trafficking is large, like a drug ring, so most of the effort is to try and get to the top. You don't hear too much about the "named and shamed" when you hear about a drug bust either, but there are huge drug busts all of the time. Same with human trafficking.

It is absolutely real, and in great numbers.

I say, if you want to buy sex, great. Most women selling it are hard pressed in life, and that is sad, but if that is ok with you, it's not like it is your job to save these women's souls. But I do take issue with men who ignorantly have sex with a 16 year old, who is obviously not there because it is the path she decided to take in life, with her own free will.

I'd hope that you and any man who is buying sex would know the difference between a woman who is selling herself on her own free will, independently, and this. And CARE.

if you want a more in depth insight to one case, this one is particularly terrible:

Dots on sex-trade picture largely went unconnected (January 10, 2006)Just last month, about 21 children - at least one from Toledo - were recovered in a similar national prostitution sweep.

The Primetime story starts on a rainy day before dinner in May, 2005, when Kimberly, then 15, and her cousin, Carol, then 14, were walking to a fast-food restaurant.

They accepted a ride from a man Kimberly first thought looked familiar, and only realized her mistake after she was in the vehicle. The man was convicted pimp Deric Willoughby, 41 of Toledo, who was sentenced in March to serve eight years in prison on charges of conspiracy and interstate transportation of minors for prostitution.

The girls became nervous as the car rolled past the restaurant, but never imagined what they'd be forced to do. When they tried to escape Willoughby's Downing Avenue home, he tossed Kimberly through a glass table and pulled Carol up the stairs by her hair. Terrified when their captors threatened to hurt their parents if they escaped, the girls didn't try to run until they were rescued.

Two women - Jennifer Huskey, 25, and Brandy Shope, 20, sentenced last year to
6 1/2 years in prison - supervised as the girls they dubbed "Heavenly" and "Ambrosia" performed sex acts and collected the cash.

Willoughby was "Daddy" and paying customers never asked how old the girls were.

"I didn't want to do any of this. I wanted to knock 'em out and run," Kimberly tells McFadden in the special.

Kimberly said on television she gave up hope on the fifth of the 10 days she was a prisoner.

The police first dismissed the girls as runaways, but Kimberly's mom told Ms. McFadden she knew her daughter wouldn't leave without "Moo-zers," the stuffed cow Kimberly couldn't sleep without.

Her rescue came when she was arrested for soliciting at a truck stop in Dexter, Mich. She was reunited with her family but had to leave her cousin behind.

Kimberly remembered the name of Willoughby's street, and recognized his house. When police didn't show after two of her mother's frantic 911 calls - which are included in the television special - Carol's dad charged the house and struggled with Willoughby. It took police about 90 minutes to arrive, the television special states.

Here is an interview with one of the girls later: http://www.livedash.com/transcript/e!_investigates__teenage_trafficking/6528/EP/Friday_October_9_2009/93688/

 

[Lexington]

Sex slavery is definitely a crime but we should not conflate it with prostitution. The act of prostitution and the act of sex slavery are two different things.

Obviously we should try to crack down on human trafficking. But a woman selling sex of her own volition should be free to do so.

 

[iqqi]

Sex slavery is definitely a crime but we should not conflate it with prostitution. The act of prostitution and the act of sex slavery are two different things.

Obviously we should try to crack down on human trafficking. But a woman selling sex of her own volition should be free to do so.

That's the issue with prostitution, though. It IS confusing.

When a girl is kidnapped and forced into the sex trade, a man who is buying sex is usually not looking any deeper than he has to. He just sees a prostitute. Or he ignores the fact that this girl is probably a lot younger than 18.

A woman who is forced into sex is not going to make it clear that is the case because if she does, she will face threats coming into fruition. In many cases when a girl is first forced into it, there is someone there watching and guarding her, until she is finally "broken". Many girls are drugged, or forced into addiction.

 

[Lexington]

That's the issue with prostitution, though. It IS confusing.

When a girl is kidnapped and forced into the sex trade, a man who is buying sex is usually not looking any deeper than he has to. He just sees a prostitute. Or he ignores the fact that this girl is probably a lot younger than 18.

A woman who is forced into sex is not going to make it clear that is the case because if she does, she will face threats coming into fruition. In many cases when a girl is first forced into it, there is someone there watching and guarding her, until she is finally "broken". Many girls are drugged, or forced into addiction.

Yes and in those scenarios you described, the perpetrators of those crimes should be brought to justice. I agree 100% that sex traffic is immoral and should be illegal.

 

[goodfoot]

That's the issue with prostitution, though. It IS confusing.

When a girl is kidnapped and forced into the sex trade, a man who is buying sex is usually not looking any deeper than he has to. He just sees a prostitute. Or he ignores the fact that this girl is probably a lot younger than 18.

A woman who is forced into sex is not going to make it clear that is the case because if she does, she will face threats coming into fruition. In many cases when a girl is first forced into it, there is someone there watching and guarding her, until she is finally "broken". Many girls are drugged, or forced into addiction.

Legalizing prostitution would fix those problems.

 

[The_411]

Folks the prostitution trade is legal in parts of Nevada. Those women aren't enslaved, screwed up likely but they go through rigorous testing, and like it was posted earlier you pay em to leave.

Legalizing it would clean up a lot of the issues but there will always be an underground market as brothel wenches aren't exactly cheap.

That being said every single person has paid for it.

The reason it's looked down upon is that women would lose massive amounts of control for relationships if a guy could get reasonably priced strange and not put up with a woman's wishy washy crap and manipulations.

 

[Tazman]

The reason it's looked down upon is that women would lose massive amounts of control for relationships if a guy could get reasonably priced strange and not put up with a woman's wishy washy crap and manipulations.

Which is also why having this conversation with women is completely and utterly pointless. The first and only thing they'll look for is "counter evidence" and rightly so...the pendulum would swing way too far for their comfort.

 

[Maxtro]

Prostitution is something that needs to be legalized and regulated.

As for human trafficking, there is some responsibility for a "John" to find out that the girl actually wants to preform services. That's taken care of with a few minutes of conversation before things get started.