apodyopsis's bootcamp journal

[apodyopsis]

week 3 day 3ish

ok wow, computer had some issues and i got lost in the chaos that is my life, but things have calmed down and i got 4 convos today.


alright, 1st one was in one of my classes, sat down next to her, smiled, said hi and kicked it off from there. kinda got cut short when the teacher started lecturing, but it was a good 5-6 min. she seems way to shy for me, but hey, practice is practice

2nd, another one at school (school=large ammounts of women) she was about a 7. i dunno why im in an art class when i cant really draw, but that was an icebreaker and she opened up and was friendly. its easy right now to initiate conversations, with summer just behind us and everything, plus people come from different areas, so the topics are just endless

3rd, i was just walking from my last class and happened to be next to this really cute russian girl, i just love accents... well, thats just a cover, who wouldnt want a girl moaning in a different language? but ya, accent, obviously from another country, theres ur icebreaker after the initial *smile* 'hey'

ran into my ex-oneitis again, but i was overall in a great mood and her presence didnt bother me. i think she picked up on that and she put down her ***** shield, which i find odd since she was the one that walked up to me and said hi, but watever. i didnt let her take up too much of my time tho, way to many other girls to meet

and finally my fourth (oneitis doesnt count) was a lil while after i walked away from my oneitis, i purposely asked where she was going so i could say i had to go the opposite direction... why miss out on opportunities? and luckily i did that since i ran into this attractive blonde, great body. kudos to Walden, she was sitting on a bench and i walked over sat down n rummaged through my bag. somehow our conversation shifted to how she drank way too much last weekend and gave this random guy a lapdance. probably my favorite out of today, but cell phone went off so i decided to go

regardless of where i am in the bootcamp, if i have an obvious green light to get a number i will, oh which reminds me i mentioned to one of the above girls i bike *insert place* n some1 lived right there n told me i should stop by. but since im such a smart person and all, its just a number with no name at all (i tend not to think when im in a hurry), and i cant for sure narrow it down to 1 girl, but watever, got a number and didnt even ask for it, so i guess thats a good thing.

so, lessons learned for today:

put a damn name with a phone number, dont put a venti white chocolate moca in ur cup-holder and take a sharp turn, and say hi to every damn girl that u happen to run into.

 

[onyx]

man you doin real well....i download the bootcamp pdf abt 2 month ago tried startin this but didnt get very far...

i set out to do the 1st week...but im a really shy person i cud get the eye contact but didnt hav the balls to say hi...only time i hav the balls to say hi to ppl is when im out drunk...which doesnt really count...

but u doin well man keep this up...

holla!

 

[Seraph]

You're doing better than I did when I was in week 3. I didn't even think about getting numbers then. This is good, maybe with each boot camp that goes on, more people will learn and adapt, and do better even earlier than we did/will. It's a good feeling to know that you can help someone out, even if it's just some insight or getting someone to say " sh!t, I need to try that the next time I'm out ". Props as always bro, keep it up.

 

[apodyopsis]

onyx, thats all the more reason to do this! i used only be sociable if i was in my comfort zone. if i was thrown into a strange environment id put up the barrier, but gradually im extending my comfort zone. theres so many posts on this site as to why you should strive for that change, so all i can say is find your motivation, POOK is one of my fav., but they can only be guiding lights. u gotta look in yourself and find out why YOU want the change, thats how i got started. if u need some help gettin started on the BC if u wanna give it another go, lemme know here or PM me, id be glad to help ya out

and Seraph, thats why were doin this! the bootcamp is a huge step in the right direction for us, but it also offers people the opportunity to learn from our trials, so theres another reason to keep goin

 

[apodyopsis]

week 3 day 4 (i think)

hmm, today was an interesting day

only had 1 new convo today, i didnt go out of my way today to get the quota, just went to class. havent had time to go to the gym in a few days, so gotta squeeze in a quick session tomorrow. but ya, this girl was probably about a 7, just her clothing (or lack of) would bring her up to like a 7.5 but i dont reward points like that. i wasnt really in it today and i guess it showed, my body language was probably off. its important i get enough sleep, no late nights doin homework i should have finished earlier. so ya, i think that gives me 6, so not lookin to shabby for this week. the main thing ive gained so far is just the ability to talk to almost anyone im around, and its always good to improve.

well, 2morrows another day, so time to study and sleep

OH, and do u think chicks dig mosquito bites? i got like 6-7 today, which is really odd, but some1 explained to me they are attracted to people who eat like bananas or apples or somethin, so 2 bananas and 5 apples later i now have an abundant supply of itchy bumps... but ya, i think ive just found the perfect pick-up line

"can u scratch my mosquito bite?"

its a solid ice-breaker! well, probably wont yield too much success in the field, but good luck to those who want 2 try it!

until next time...

 

[apodyopsis]

week 3 day 5

again i only got 1 today, i was hoping i would get at least 3, but im just not feelin that great. being covered in swollen mosquito bites kinda put me in an irritable mood today, but i didnt let it show (unless u count unconscious scratching) but ya, chocked a couple times and i want to highlight them so i can improve next time

lets see, there was this attractive asian chick talkin with a couple friends, but she was giving me eye contact a lot. i dunno why i just didnt walk over there and say something, it was basically a green light, so *kicks himself* this wuld be choke #1

choke #2 was at lunch, had an opportunity to sit at this table of females, but i dont think im ready to approach a whole table of cuties, and this Vanessa girl i havent seen in a while screamed my name and ran to give me a hug, got the chick tables attention, but still i choked and retreated to safety land... *sigh* and i was doing so well this week, o well, good learning experiences

and my convo today was sometime between classes, i actually accidently bumped into this girl and she was like "oh, that trick *smile" but hey, it was an accident so i denied it and it took off from there. i should have number closed (regret # 3) but at least im making progress... if i had never started this bootcamp, i wouldnt be nearly as comfortable approaching strangers, talking with people and just being confident. though there are limits right now, im making decent strides so thats motivation to keep it up.

anyway i think my count for the week is like 7, but im going to ignore my quota for the last couple days. any approachable girl should be a target, not just when i "feel" like it... so ya, thats my update, until next time

 

[apodyopsis]

oh man am i drunk right now... texas holdem + drink friend invented = wasted me. im not a big drinker, and i didnt have nthing to eat since lunch, and we started at like 10pm so that apparently was a bad thing. all i know was i could barely walk without falling but im feeling a little better now.

didnt do too much bootcamp today, just took the day to relax from the stress of school n went laser-tagging... man, now theres a fun game! but enogh about that, lets get to the convos... lets see, i got 1 at the mall, so im at like 8oish think i so ill update 2morrow when im more soberish.... gotta get 2 more to finish up the week, so hopefully i dont have a hangover

until next time....

 

[apodyopsis]

week 3 finale

i didnt reach my exact quota, but ive been extremely busy so its no big deal. i got 9 i think, even 8 would be acceptable. it hasnt been easy to get outta my comfort zone, but its been worth it. right now i feel like im at an all time low in the bootcamp, probably because i have a small hangover, so ill ignore this til tomorrow. i dont really have a reason to be down, ive made great progress and m goin for some numbers this week. but ya, thats pretty much it from week 3. i think this and week 4 will probably be the toughest, so im halfway over the hill or watever u wanna call it

 

[apodyopsis]

week 4 day 1

oh man, did i ever choke today

i had 1 PERFECT chance, and there were these 2 horribly attractive (gotta love the word choice) girls, both about 8.5-9, got eye-contact n a smile but i couldnt approach both of em (ie WUSSED OUT!!!) and my perfect chance i just didnt, she was about a 7.5 but cute face and decent body, its just a couple i knew were standing in the immediate area, and that made number closing that much harder... things didnt go too well today, but theres always room for improvement!

basically i got rejected 3 times by not approaching, like some article said, by NOT going for the close ur already walking into the worst-case scenario, but i wont try to recreate the article here, go READ IT! (bible has some good stuff fyi) so ya, i kno this doesnt count for my 10 rejections this week, but i just wanted to point out that by NOT acting ur already screwing ur self... and i was doing so well up until now, and i let 3 girls through. oh well, i shall learn and go out again 2morrow

 

[david90]

so u have 0 rejection right?

 

[Seraph]

You can do it.

Don't get down about it, choking at the begining of the week is ok. You just have to find your flow and you'll be alright. Just think about how many girls don't have boyfriends, how many girls are too intimidating to wussy guys so they spend the weekends with their girl friends, AFC guy friends, or alone. They want to be asked out. They want to be able to brag to their friends that they have a date, or that a cute guy came out of the blue and got their number. They're waiting for you buddy, just go out and get them.

If you wanted to, I guess you could think about it like a post office. You have come to them to pick up a package (their number) and approaching them is the only thing stopping you. I realized on Saturday that if I can go up to them, if I can get past the introduction, then it's all easy trivial stuff from there. Approaching is the hardest part for me, and maybe for you too. Once you start talking to them, if they act flustered/interested, then asking for the number should be no problem.

 

[apodyopsis]

week 4

ya, thx for the input seraph. havent had much time lately, but i like having a busy life, especially when the majority of the things consuming my free time are things i love. anyway, got my first number today, lil filipino girl, bout an 8. suprisingly it wasnt that hard, its just the first time its like the hardest thing in the world, like when u first drive a car... i remember sweaty palms, freaking out... if i could only see myself taking s-curves at 75-80... (minus the crash at 90 but shhh) so ya, and i got 1 rejection from this blonde girl but we just had a few min of fluff talk n i had to go, so i was like "wat the hell." with the whole rejection thing, are we suppose to get rejected on purpose? or just keep going until we get rejected 10 times since we wont have a 100% success rate... if its the 2nd then its like with salesman, they try to lose so many customers a day (not on purpose) because they know that even if they go through 100 customers, 25-30 might buy watever their selling. anyway, ill try and post more... i just dont have the free time that i would like, i havent had time to sleep 8 hours or eat a good meal since last week, so im slightly stressed but Walden didnt let anything stop him, so i shall march on... only 9 more rejections to go, so time to crash and burn some more!!!1



and thx 2 whoever reads this, i know its not the most perfect BC in the world but im really trying to change myself for the better, and its nice to know that people occasionally check in. ive noticed a high level of bootcamps are starting or are planning to start up so ill try my best to give input whenever i can!

 

[apodyopsis]

week 4

man, am i exhausted... i should be sleeping right now but i dont wanna update quick. right now my rejections is at 3, and ive gotten 2 phone numbers. i dont know how im going to complete this bootcamp, keeping up 10 numbers at one time sounds time-consuming, and i barely have free-time as it is. i dont think ill be able to go out as much as Walden did in his BC simply because i dont have time, but ill try my best. im taking this weekend off to sleep, relax and save my sanity. im going out in a few hours after a good nap so hopefully there will be a couple HB's, but right now i need sleep... but ill briefly describe my few attempted closes in the past couple days

attempt 1: successful
hah, funny how i dont have to fake the whole i have to go/im almost always busy thing anymore... anyway, i was short on time n said the classic line "i gotta get going, let me give u a call... wats ur #"

failed 1-2
they were just stabs in the dark since i need to collect some rejections. brief fluff-talks dont establish much rapport, but worth a shot!

 

[apodyopsis]

week 4 update

man, this weekend was a great recharger for me. i just hung out n played some pool, went to this music performance thing outside and stopped at "the cave" (this like club/comedy/watever place). i didnt have any time this week to really sit back and relax, have fun or go out of my way to mack on women so it was nice to have some free time. anyway, between going to the gym, biking, and activities mentioned above, i still maintained the hi thing, eye-contact, conversations, and had a few attemps at a number close. i only plan to have about 5 numbers at any given time, theres no way i could have 10 unless we went on a date like once every 2 months, which probably wouldnt be that great. currently ive gotten 3 numbers, and my rejection count is 4 right now, which isnt too shabby, considering most of my rejections were just from me making a desperate attempt for a close b4 i had to run off. the times where i got a good 5-6 min of conversation in, or if i had class with the girl it was obvious when i had a green light for a #, and ill still go for the yellow lights. but ya, the whole "hey hows it goin" *insert 20 seconds of talk* i gotta go, wats ur number doesnt seem to work, not that it should... but this weeks goal is some rejections i guess, so ive been doin it. i wish i had more free-time, but honesly my time-management is bad, so i know i can get a few hours everyday if i dont waste time or sleep excessively.

on a side note, i LOVE when ur walking by a girl, u make eye-contact and u say hey or watever, and you get the "scan." you know, they give u the up and down look, starts at eye-contact, they they either look at ur feet and gradually check everything else out quick, or they just go straight for the crotch. either way, its something ive noticed and even tho its like a quick thing i find it amusing. luckily after the initial scan i get a smile and a hey back and i judge where to go from there, but today it was so obvious i almost laughed in front of her. i think im going to adopt this scanning thing, make it obvious im checking out their bodies... hell, im a GUY, i have testosterone, and im not ashamed of it, so ya, we'll see how this goes.

overall the bootcamps been going ok for me, minus the lack of time ive had for it and the rate its taking me to progress, but im happy im still doing it and havent dropped out. i dunno how many times that voice creeped in my head, but all i have to do is look at all my progress so far, and even tho im not even close to finishing it, ive noticed big improvements.

so ya, im going to dedicate the rest of this week to week 4, so by friday hopefully ill amass 10 rejections (shouldnt be hard) and ill be selective about whos numbers i get since i probably can only handle 5... but maybe i should get as many as possible, its not like every number i get will have a date set up... but we'll see, ill just close whenever i have a chance and wont look back. with the bootcamp, and just the recharge i had this weekend, i feel awesome, and good moods = better body language. anyway, thats about it from me, i plan to set up a couple dates this weekend, and get some more numbers so until next time

 

[Seraph]

Haha, good to hear things are going well for you man. I'll have to try out the scanning thing too, let me know how it works for ya

 

[MrCode]

Keep it up apodyopsis, you are doing really well. And though you and Seraph are way ahead of we recent boot camp recruits, just keep in mind you aren't alone. Also if you wuss out we will have no choice but to haze your @ss.

Just a little motivation for ya!

 

[apodyopsis]

week 4 update

lol, ill keep that in mind MrCode



today ill be brief and to the point, i have studying that needs to get done...

lets see, got 1 number today, it was so perfect i wanted to cry.... and chickened out once, but a number a day keeps the boredom away! (yes, i know thats stupid). anyway, i have 2 dates set up already, i dont think ill be able to squeeze nemore in this week but thats still no excuse not to get a few more numbers. just the fact that i have 2 dates set up already feels awesome. i feel sorry for one of my friends... hes like "well, im sure u guys can just be friends for a while." hahaha, umm... did i go through all this just to be FRIENDS?! not that he knows about my bootcamp or nething, but seriously... anyway, im happy with my progress today, but ill keep goin til i get a few more rejections and ill probably try and keep 6-7 numbers active... thats all for today, one of my chick friends was pointing out how im getting "friendly" with a lot of girls n she went with that when she found out i have 2 seperate dates planned for the end of the week... i dont think she will know if i set up any more in the future, but its nice to get noticed and everything... YES, i am getting friendlier with the females, getting in kino whenever i can, and slowly closing on some numbers... now the next step is approaching in a few days, so ill be sure to post how that goes


AND, the whole body-eye scan thing was hilarious today... this girl in my class walked up and said hi, and i did the scan... she knew EXACTLY what i was doing, and that completely knocked her off guard, but i took it as a learning experience... DO IT, at least once it had a positive outcome, n i dont see why it would be a bad thing

and another thing, im experimenting with the whole "do u have any chapstick" phrase. now, i would never do this with a stranger, cause thats just wierd, but the girls i semi-kinda know in my classes ive been trying it. most of the time my lips are actually chapped so its only natural that id ask, but ive noticed girls that have some level of attraction never fail to offer it. i dont see a girl who is repulsed by u letting u rub ur lips all over her chapstick, so its a semi-good test to see where u stand. now, i know that doesnt mean much, but hey, at least it shows she doesnt find u repulsing! and one of the chicks i closed on offered me some of hers, so might be something, might not be... just thot id bring it up if ne1 wants to experiment with me

so ya, thats it for now... until next time!

 

[apodyopsis]

week 4

man, i was doing so well too.... choked a couple times today, and this was probably my worst EVER

the girl was practically leaning over the damn table when she was talking to me, and it was just flawless... but for some reason i just #$@%ing didnt do it. i have no idea why, i guess i just disobeyed the 3 second rule and the thoughts started piling up.... this threw me off for the rest of the day, so no new closes or nething today... bah, hopefully ill see her 2morrow, we bump into each other once in a while, but i missed a perfect opportunity... oh well, ill only learn from this in the end, but that still doesnt cover up the fact i wussed out

AND, knowing that u wussed out and choked is a hell of a lot WORSE then getting rejected, let me say this... ITS SO MUCH WORSE!!! never again.... NEVER

 

[apodyopsis]

week 4 update

got another number today, and that girl i let slip through yesterday gave me her number today, so ya, i dunno what my quota is at right now, but it doesnt matter, im just happy im still doin the bootcamp, b4 i started i was only outgoing in my little comfort zone, and CA"S were out of the picture, but im making progess and even if i were to stop now, it would have been worth the effort. i plan to start week 5 this weekend, so ill try and squeeze as many numbers in as i can b4 then. got a couple dates comin up, so wish me luck!

 

[apodyopsis]

week 4

alright, just set up my first "date", conversation was about 7 min, then got down to business. i think ill start week 5, depending on what week 5's goals are, cause i have enough numbers to keep me entertained right now, but if any flake out ill be sure to get some more. now, its not officially labeled a date, but then why would u want to label it that? personally id rather go out and have FUN, throw in kino and all the other stuff, so we'll see what happens. i guess i am concluding this week, but ill continue to do everything ive been practicing in the BC til the end, heck probably for a LONG time, til im old and senile, and even then, whos to say we old grandpas cant mack on the hot young nurses?

anyway, overall this week was pretty good. it had some ups and downs, but mostly ups so another good learning experience for me. the 3-second rule is REALLY important, and when u have a girl basically leaning over the damn table intently talking to you, thats a pretty good sign for a number close, so TAKE IT! i was lucky she gave me her number the next day, but im not falling into those traps again... i want to be the one in control, NOT the females. thx for putting up with this, i know its not the most traditional bootcamp but its workin for me, and im tryin as best i can with the limited freetime i can get. between saying hi and setting up dates, its been great so far. gotta set up my second one tomorrow, and third, 4th and 5th chicks throughout the week, so ill have my work cut out. until next time....