Another "is chivalry dead?" Case

[tryst type]

Ok so been talking to this super hot blonde Russian woman, I'm talking an easy 9.

Little background, she's a divorced mom who is a "stay at home mom" that lives off money from selling a spa business and child support.

We were talking about getting together and she says "your treat?"

At first I banter a little saying "you get this one and I'll let you get the next too"

She laughs but instantly gets back on the subject that I should be paying. I retort with "nah first meet up should be a 50/50 deal until we've realized we might want to see each other again, it is about personality and vibing at first"

Her response: I need to feel like a girl, I have old fashioned ways. Aren't you asking me out?

Me: I'm suggesting you catch a movie with me, tag along. And if you're already expecting me to pay for you then you're pretty much saying you just want a guy to wine and dine you and I'm not looking for that kind of woman because it'll just be the basis for the relationship.

Her: You're not rich enough for me to be just after you for money

Me: Then stop acting like you are

Her: Is chivalry dead?

Me: When you're explicitly saying you'll only see me if I pay then yes, you don't deserve it

Her: Fine

Should I not even bother with this one? I've already lost a lot of interest but still would like to f*ck her

 

[ludis]

Should have answered "yes" when she asked if it's your treat.
Then pick her up and take her along for some grocery shopping of your own.
Buy her a popsicle if she behaved. :crackup:

 

[tryst type]

Should have answered "yes" when she asked if it's your treat.
Then pick her up and take her along for some grocery shopping of your own.
Buy her a popsicle if she behaved. :crackup:

Haha nice. It was already established we'd be catching a movie though.

 

[tryst type]

Ok she just texted with:

I'm on my knees asking for forgiveness. Forgive me?

Is she a whack job??

 

[ludis]

Ok she just texted with:

I'm on my knees asking for forgiveness. Forgive me?

Is she a whack job??

Not necessarily.It could mean you just passed a sh1t test.

I'd reconsider taking her to the movies though.

 

[speed dawg]

I'm on my knees asking for forgiveness. Forgive me?

Your reply, "Stay there, I'll be right over."

 

[speed dawg]

We were talking about getting together and she says "your treat?"

At first I banter a little saying "you get this one and I'll let you get the next too"

She laughs but instantly gets back on the subject that I should be paying. I retort with "nah first meet up should be a 50/50 deal until we've realized we might want to see each other again, it is about personality and vibing at first"

Her response: I need to feel like a girl, I have old fashioned ways. Aren't you asking me out?

Me: I'm suggesting you catch a movie with me, tag along. And if you're already expecting me to pay for you then you're pretty much saying you just want a guy to wine and dine you and I'm not looking for that kind of woman because it'll just be the basis for the relationship.

Her: You're not rich enough for me to be just after you for money

Me: Then stop acting like you are

Her: Is chivalry dead?

Me: When you're explicitly saying you'll only see me if I pay then yes, you don't deserve it

Her: Fine

Should I not even bother with this one? I've already lost a lot of interest but still would like to f*ck her

Eh, you were probably kind of a d*ck. You did, after all, ask her out. Just go somewhere cheap, get ice cream and go to the park or something.

 

[PlayHer Man]

I don't know.. when she asked: "Your treat?" I would of said: "Maybe... lets you how you do "

We all know the devious and self-serving ways of women.. but there is no reason to make it so obvious to them that we have them figured out. That's no fun for her OR you.

I say the best route is inner wisdom while presenting a fun and positive front. You know whats going on.. but you don't let the girl know right away she can't play you. Give her the illusion of control and feed her ego so you can bang her. Its just words. At the end of the day you know you're not gonna pay for sh!t but she won't notice since she will be too caught up in sexual tension to focus on it.

 

[tryst type]

I don't know.. when she asked: "Your treat?" I would of said: "Maybe... lets you how you do "

We all know the devious and self-serving ways of women.. but there is no reason to make it so obvious to them that we have them figured out. That's no fun for her OR you.

I say the best route is inner wisdom while presenting a fun and positive front. You know whats going on.. but you don't let the girl know right away she can't play you. Give her the illusion of control and feed her ego so you can bang her. Its just words. At the end of the day you know you're not gonna pay for sh!t but she won't notice since she will be too caught up in sexual tension to focus on it.

Yes but apparently my response boosted her interest? Considering her follow up text.

 

[tryst type]

Update: She has invited me over tomorrow night, says the kids won't be around.

She texted with the invite along with a text right after that read:

"You're all demanding and dominant and yet you have a softer,gentler, and kind side to you"

So, was the whole "treating her" thing just a big sh*t test?

 

[LorenzoVonM]

Update: She has invited me over tomorrow night, says the kids won't be around.

She texted with the invite along with a text right after that read:

"You're all demanding and dominant and yet you have a softer,gentler, and kind side to you"

So, was the whole "treating her" thing just a big sh*t test?

Seems so. Even though it was clunky execution the fact you didn't give in made her wet. I don't have any experience with Russian girls but from what I hear they really need a very dominant man. This is why you need to stay on guard, I predict more sh*t tests on the way.

I would be careful about showing that softer, gentler side until you've got a couple lays in.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Update: She has invited me over tomorrow night, says the kids won't be around.

She texted with the invite along with a text right after that read:

"You're all demanding and dominant and yet you have a softer,gentler, and kind side to you"

So, was the whole "treating her" thing just a big sh*t test?

Absolutely. And you clearly passed her sh!t test.

Don't be so fast to celebrate though... bigger ones are coming. Women who put up a b!tch shield are b!tches. The term "shield" is to make an excuse for bad female behavior (since we love to do that in this society).

I've dated b!tchy women before and the sh!t testing never really ends. They will soften temporarily every time you pass a test. Then they'll come back with another one.

You're already caught in her web and you haven't even f*cked her yet. Generally a man should never analyze a woman he hasn't f*cked yet. If you are analyzing.. you're already behind in the power game. Stay alert.. bro.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Eh, you were probably kind of a d*ck. You did, after all, ask her out. Just go somewhere cheap, get ice cream and go to the park or something.

No, he wasn't. Asking someone outright if he's going to pay for you is extremely bad taste. Plus, it was probably a sh*t test.

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear Tryst Type,
Russian Women have a shocking reputation down here...Yours is obviously a broken down Mail Order Bride....She is obviously tied down by the kid,and really looking for a meal ticket...If she is as you suggest a good looker,then $50 seems reasonable for a jump,in what is after all a semi commercial transaction.

 

[Jules_Winfield]

She was completely willing to take advantage of you if you allowed it. Now she'll just use you to be less lonely. Enjoy the sex, and don't get attached because she will move on the first chance she gets.

 

[Aristippus]

Tryst said: Little background, she's a divorced mom who is a "stay at home mom" that lives off money from selling a spa business and child support.

We were talking about getting together and she says "your treat?"

So she sold a spa business and is getting child support. I'm wondering how much of the spa business was funded by the ex. Then she immediately asks if the night out is your treat. I would suggest leaving this one alone. She believes she has a golden pvssy and will be nothing but an aggravation. Be warned.

 

[tryst type]

Update: We ended up going to a movie (she says the kids came home early for the weekend)

She brought up the little convo about me treating her as a joke (or her attempt at one) and we each paid for our tickets.

During the movie she was all over me! I had her tits out to play with and all, she was wearing a very skimpy dress and heels. I was dressed casually, jeans and a button up plaid. People were definitely staring at the contrast between us lol.

So, after the movie we chat a bit in her car. We part ways and she texts about 30 min asking if I had fun etc then she gets on the topic of "us"

Basically she wants a relationship with me. I'm confused, she knows I'm not rich nor would I cater to her. I definitely don't want a relationship.

 

[Zunder]

Update: We ended up going to a movie (she says the kids came home early for the weekend)

She brought up the little convo about me treating her as a joke (or her attempt at one) and we each paid for our tickets.

During the movie she was all over me! I had her tits out to play with and all, she was wearing a very skimpy dress and heels. I was dressed casually, jeans and a button up plaid. People were definitely staring at the contrast between us lol.

So, after the movie we chat a bit in her car. We part ways and she texts about 30 min asking if I had fun etc then she gets on the topic of "us"

Basically she wants a relationship with me. I'm confused, she knows I'm not rich nor would I cater to her. I definitely don't want a relationship.

You are only 30, and look like you could be getting involved with a woman and her kid? Wtf is wrong with you young guys? You want to be a daddy to someone elses sperm at such a young age? Wake up mate. Pump & dump at best.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Basically she wants a relationship with me. I'm confused, she knows I'm not rich nor would I cater to her. I definitely don't want a relationship.

She sounds like exactly the kind of woman that you pump 'n dump without feeling the slightest pang of conscience. Play along with the whole relationship angle as long as you need, and when you want to end it, tell her that she is too good for you. She'll probably believe it, too.

 

[Jitterbug]

Yeah just play along. A relationship is just a socially acceptable glorified fvck-buddy arrangement, not a legally binding contract.