An email I just sent. Did I do anything wrong.

[LoneRanger]

This is my first post here.

I just went out with a beautiful woman yesterday morning. She was in town for an eye procedure. Lives over 120 miles away. I had a nice time but she was a total airhead. Despite that I want to see her again. She had a great body and dressed very well.

I may have made a mistake today, however. Sent off this email this afternoon but am worried that I may have over done it. Geesh! I hope she emails back.

Did I do anything wrong here? This is the message.

Hello, Kim,

Thank you for the nice date at Barnes and Nobel. You are a very nice, ladylike and honest person and I enjoyed meeting you.

I hope that your eyes feel better and the hurting has stopped. I didn't want to extend our date because I though it better that you should get home and get some rest.

I slept all of yesterday and will start looking for another place to live right away. The dog is barking now.

Can we date again? My phone number still is 989-***-****. What's your number?

I am kind of embarrassed that you paid for our drinks and I would like to return the favor.

I am very interested in hearing more about the books you have been reading and the type of foods you and your sister make.

Rest those eyes.

Yours,


Darren

I hope this wasn't too much.

I didn't get her number because we had no pen and she said she would email it to me.

BTW, we met online. There is no place to meet good women in my area. The area I live in is Saginaw County. Most call it Sag-nasty. Lot of the women here are no good.

Did I do a good thing with that email or should I begin to move on to someone else?

 

[DavenJuan]

tell me your joking??

and if you arent, i have no idea what your asking.

 

[DJDamage]

Did I do a good thing with that email or should I begin to move on to someone else?

You kind of laid it in THICK, a bit too thick actually.

One thing I don't get.... how did you get her email address when you didn't have the pen to write down her number?!

 

[PhatE1vis]

Not really anything wrong, but let me point out a few things that I saw:

1. "nice, ladylike and honest person" - this sounds like something my grandma would say, not something a man would say to a woman. How about "you're a lot of fun, and not bad to look at either!"

2. "I didn't want to extend our date because I though it better that you should get home and get some rest." - no need to really explain yourself here, unless the date ended awkwardly. Also, try for a more conversational tone, like "It was too bad we cut the date short, but I'm sure you needed your rest."

3. "Can we date again?" - DON'T ASK. Tell. And don't say "date" because this is more of a relationship word, not the stage you're at now. "Give me a call when you're in town again and we'll grab a bite" would be better. Also, no need to give her your number again.

4. "I am kind of embarrassed that you paid for our drinks" - no. Don't ever admit being embarrassed, it sounds weak. How about "thanks for the drinks...they're on me next time."

The rest wasn't bad. Overall, maybe a little too long. Also, are you really going to travel 120 miles for some girl?

 

[LoneRanger]

tell me your joking??

and if you arent, i have no idea what your asking.

Okay. Looks like I messed up, then.

This is my first time dating through email and am better talking than typing.

However, this is not a bar or club type of woman. She does not drink. One of those health oriented people and she spent the whole time talking about every little thing that is wrong with her. She is into new age stuff and a trip to talk to.

For example, I asked what kind of movies she likes and she said the only films she watches are the ones she shoots of herself. I asked her to clairfy and she said something like she likes to take videos at family gatherings. She was serious.

 

[LoneRanger]

The rest wasn't bad. Overall, maybe a little too long. Also, are you really going to travel 120 miles for some girl?

Thanks for the great critique. I will use them the next time.

She is looking for her "soul mate" and is looking for a relationship. This is not a casual dating situation.

She drove up 120 miles to see me for our first date. She is a hottie, lives in a condo with her sister and I bet easy to get into bed being she is a total airhead. Completely disconnected from reality. 34 years old with great skin tone. You have to see it to believe it.

You'll never see her type around here in Mid-Michigan. I am in her part of the state several times a month anyway so if things work out we may meet where she lives.

That is.. if I haven't turned her off.

 

[LoneRanger]

You kind of laid it in THICK, a bit too thick actually.

One thing I don't get.... how did you get her email address when you didn't have the pen to write down her number?!

I met her online and have been communicating through a website.

 

[DavenJuan]

so i am going to assume that this is a legitamite thread...

WHERES THE MYSTERY?

you have a date with her DONT get her number, so you "blah blah blah" through an email??

IMO use your email SIMPLY to set up the date, confirm the date, but NEVER to ramble like you did ..again IMO

you tell her your EMBARRASSED? embarrassed because she paid for the drinks...? why? and even if you were, why the need to tell her? it makes you look insecure.

but... besides all that. my problem is this...

You have self defeated yourself and YES, it really doesnt matter what you said in your email it would have been wrong.

and i say this because as soon as you hit the send button you started to question if YOU did right or wrong. worrying about what she will think

WHO CARES.

and as long as you continue to think that it DOES matter what she thinks, then you will be continue to be self defeating.

have fun, enjoy YOURSELF, and if she likes you ..great.. if she doesnt, tell the bytch to move on. her loss.

good luck brother

 

[PhatE1vis]

If she's an airhead, I'm sure you're fine! Plus, my suggestions were my own style, so you have to find what works for you.

If you're in her area frequently, then it seems like it could be worthwhile pursuing. Good luck!

 

[LoneRanger]

so i am going to assume that this is a legitamite thread...

WHERES THE MYSTERY?

you have a date with her DONT get her number, so you "blah blah blah" through an email??

IMO use your email SIMPLY to set up the date, confirm the date, but NEVER to ramble like you did ..again IMO

I screwed up.

We talked on the phone a couple of times. She called me. Will get the number if she calls back. She said she would when we left the coffiee house and wanted to see me again.

you tell her your EMBARRASSED? embarrassed because she paid for the drinks...? why? and even if you were, why the need to tell her? it makes you look insecure.

It was the way our bill was rang up. Not a good excuse for me, however. She wanted to pay her own but paid for both by accident. I told her that I would pay the next time.

but... besides all that. my problem is this...

You have self defeated yourself and YES, it really doesnt matter what you said in your email it would have been wrong.

and i say this because as soon as you hit the send button you started to question if YOU did right or wrong. worrying about what she will think

WHO CARES.

and as long as you continue to think that it DOES matter what she thinks, then you will be continue to be self defeating.

have fun, enjoy YOURSELF, and if she likes you ..great.. if she doesnt, tell the bytch to move on. her loss.

good luck brother

Thanks for the words. All points well taken.

 

[LoneRanger]

If she's an airhead, I'm sure you're fine! Plus, my suggestions were my own style, so you have to find what works for you.

A complete flake. The kind of nice girl one would know back in High School days. :cheer:

She's like a deer staring into headlights. Mind is totally scattered and with a really hot body.

Unbelievable.

 

[Mr. Me]

She wanted to pay her own

Yeah, I thought so. When I read the first post and saw she had paid I wondered about that. Women who insist on paying for themselves do so because they don't want any obligations. Not a good sign. I'm guessing that she wasn't all that taken by you on your date.

After your rambling email, I'm surprised she called you. But she still didn't give you her number and you're dependent on her calling back. I'm not sure about this one.

What some guys go through to land a seeming airhead with great skin tone that lives 120 miles away! It's going to be difficult at best.

PhatElvis did nicely showing why each line in your email was a major turnoff, but this last one I'll cover:

"I am very interested in hearing more about the books you have been reading and the type of foods you and your sister make."

She knows you're not really. So don't pretend like you are. It's a pretense and she sees right through it because NO man in the history of the world ever wanted to know what books she reads or what foods she makes with her sister, unless maybe he was her dad or some gay guy. So it makes you look phony.

Why didn't you reimburse her for the drinks right then and there? They don't have cash or ATMS in the U.P.? That would've been the sharp thing to do.

 

[Bible_Belt]

No offense, but your email was horrible. You reek of boring, desperate, nice guy. That is the kiss of death with women.

And you were probably boring to her on the date. It sounds like more like a job interview than a date. The thank-you, suckup email is probably a waste of time anyway. There's probably a reason that she did not give you her number - you're boring and needy, like every other guy.

If the day after a date, you describe it as "nice," that means you were a colossal failure. Nice guys really do finish last in the dating world.

It's hard to give advice about how to not be nice. It is not the same as being a complete jerk. Being a total jerk is just as one-dimensional and boring. You have to mix it up, give honest compliments when they are appropriate, yet honestly call her on her bs when that is appropriate as well.

Once again, no offense, I mean the commentary to be constructive criticism.

Hello, Kim, (boring)

Thank you for the nice date at Barnes and Nobel. You are a very nice, ladylike and honest person and I enjoyed meeting you. (boring)

I hope that your eyes feel better and the hurting has stopped. I didn't want to extend our date because I though it better that you should get home and get some rest. (sucking up)

I slept all of yesterday and will start looking for another place to live right away. The dog is barking now. (boring)

Can we date again? My phone number still is 989-***-****. What's your number? (I'm really lonely!)

I am kind of embarrassed that you paid for our drinks and I would like to return the favor. (self-deprecation)

I am very interested in hearing more about the books you have been reading and the type of foods you and your sister make. (suck up)

Rest those eyes. (suck up)

Yours, (I wish)

 

[LoneRanger]

Looks like I will move on, then. She said she wanted to see me again and usually called or emailed on Friday.

If I hear from her, good. If not, I have bigger fish to fry. Putting this out of my mind.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Good. On your next date, rock her world a little. Be anything but boring. I think it is better to at least fail in different ways than to keep failing by being boring. There are plenty of women out there, enough to learn from each one and get better each time.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

The Victory Unlimited New Recruit Briefing:


Consider the information you get here as WEAPONS for you to sample. Pick out a few, try them out, use them on a few FIELD MISSIONS, THEN decide whether or not THAT weapon is worthy to be added to YOUR arsenal.

If not, then throw it away and yank another big assed Uzi from off the DJ Gunrack. Do this until you get SO comfortable using the techniques, strategies, and weapons that you INTERNALIZE THEM---and they become a part of who YOU are. You must focus on becoming a LIVING WEAPON.

Never change anything you like about yourself (ESPECIALLY if it's working) just because the DJ Bible or some famous poster says it's Wack. Filter your training here through the lens of behaviors that you have ALREADY battle-tested for yourself. Is who YOU are working? Or is it NOT?

Dont' fall into the trap of HORIZONTAL THINKING and assume like many here that ALL women are EXACTLY the same. Yes, there are MANY similiarities, so ONLY those that break the mold in a POSITIVE way should merit more than 5 minutes of your concentrated attention. But until one rises to the top by the BEHAVIORS towards you that she exhibits, treat them all the same.

Continue to focus on being a better man. SoSuave is just a headquarters, a training ground, a military school for you to use to build yoursef into a TRUE MASCULINE MAN. In MY branch of the soSuave Armed Services, this is defined as a MAN who rules himself----and is NOT ruled by women, his hormones, his weaknesses, OR the 'half-assed" opinions of other people. So BATTLE-TEST every goddammed thing...

As you go about your missions, you will find that there are women that you need to use only a minimum amount of strategies, techniques, and weapons to engage. And you will also meet women who REQUIRE that you use your WHOLE arsenal in order to engage. Much of this depends on how high that woman's interest in YOU actually is.

Growth into a mature man is often predicated on how well you can discern the two apart, AND how DEDICATED you are to ONLY engaging those women that you suspect will ultimately ADD to your life rather than detract from it.

Welcome to the War, soldier.

You HAVE been briefed.




March on!

 

[Mr. Me]

There are plenty of women out there, enough to learn from each one and get better each time.

If he's willing to learn and put it into practice. I get the sense that it's not happening. "Bigger fish to fry"? If he goes about it the same way, all he's going to succeed in doing is burning every fish he finds.

LoneRanger, let me ask you: what's your story? Just out of a long term relationship and new on the scene and don't really know what's going on with women nowadays?

 

[DavenJuan]

The Victory Unlimited New Recruit Briefing:


Consider the information you get here as WEAPONS for you to sample. Pick out a few, try them out, use them on a few FIELD MISSIONS, THEN decide whether or not THAT weapon is worthy to be added to YOUR arsenal.

If not, then throw it away and yank another big assed Uzi from off the DJ Gunrack. Do this until you get SO comfortable using the techniques, strategies, and weapons that you INTERNALIZE THEM---and they become a part of who YOU are. You must focus on becoming a LIVING WEAPON.

Never change anything you like about yourself (ESPECIALLY if it's working) just because the DJ Bible or some famous poster says it's Wack. Filter your training here through the lens of behaviors that you have ALREADY battle-tested for yourself. Is who YOU are working? Or is it NOT?

Dont' fall into the trap of HORIZONTAL THINKING and assume like many here that ALL women are EXACTLY the same. Yes, there are MANY similiarities, so ONLY those that break the mold in a POSITIVE way should merit more than 5 minutes of your concentrated attention. But until one rises to the top by the BEHAVIORS towards you that she exhibits, treat them all the same.

Continue to focus on being a better man. SoSuave is just a headquarters, a training ground, a military school for you to use to build yoursef into a TRUE MASCULINE MAN. In MY branch of the soSuave Armed Services, this is defined as a MAN who rules himself----and is NOT ruled by women, his hormones, his weaknesses, OR the 'half-assed" opinions of other people. So BATTLE-TEST every goddammed thing...

As you go about your missions, you will find that there are women that you need to use only a minimum amount of strategies, techniques, and weapons to engage. And you will also meet women who REQUIRE that you use your WHOLE arsenal in order to engage. Much of this depends on how high that woman's interest in YOU actually is.

Growth into a mature man is often predicated on how well you can discern the two apart, AND how DEDICATED you are to ONLY engaging those women that you suspect will ultimately ADD to your life rather than detract from it.

Welcome to the War, soldier.

You HAVE been briefed.




March on!

i am tempted to place this as my new sig! AMAZING POST

 

[LoneRanger]

If he's willing to learn and put it into practice. I get the sense that it's not happening. "Bigger fish to fry"? If he goes about it the same way, all he's going to succeed in doing is burning every fish he finds.

LoneRanger, let me ask you: what's your story? Just out of a long term relationship and new on the scene and don't really know what's going on with women nowadays?

The bigger fish to fry is I have to move out of this house, pronto. When we met for our date it was at 10 in the afternoon, neighbor's dog work me up around 7 and I had 3 hours sleep. That morning was a turning point of my life. I realized I have to move right away and explained my situation to her. .

I have bad neighbors in more ways that one. They have a dog they let bark at 7 to 8 in the morning. No food water or shelter. I go to sleep around 3 to 4 in the morn. Been getting a few hours a sleep every night.

Its barking right now and may as well be in my house it is so loud. My moving out is an emergency situation. I am miserable.

I've been to all of the local and county authorities and not much is being done.

I'm in Saginaw, Michigan (Sag-nasty) and not used to being around attractive, good natured women. Kim was the first that I've dated from outside my area. She was a nice girl / air head and I'm not used to that.

It looks like I don't know what good women want.

 

[iqqi]

When we met for our date it was at 10 in the afternoon

No such thing.