An email I just sent. Did I do anything wrong.

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Yeah, I thought so. When I read the first post and saw she had paid I wondered about that. Women who insist on paying for themselves do so because they don't want any obligations. Not a good sign. I'm guessing that she wasn't all that taken by you on your date.
We met at a coffie shop, said hello and went to the counter to pay for coffie. It was the first thing we did.

There was a misunderstanding with the clerk and she ended up paying for both.

She wanted to go somewhere else with me afterward but I cut it to a short 30 minute meeting. She had just got back from the eye doctor, had to wear shades the whole time and commented that her eyes were hurting, anyway.
 

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Loneranger, stop making excuses about where you live. Excuses are for losers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saginaw,_Michigan

population estimate ... 57,523

The City of Saginaw is served by Delta College and Saginaw Valley State University, which are located in nearby University Center, Michigan and a campus of Davenport University, located in Kochville Township. Central Michigan University maintains an off-campus center inside the city that offers numerous degree programs.


So you have over fifty thousand people and multiple colleges, yet there are no attractive women? I don't believe that at all. Next you'll be telling us that you are shunned by all humanity due to your horrifically short stature, being born to grow only to the freakish shortness of 5' 8."
 

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Bible_Belt said:
Loneranger, stop making excuses about where you live. Excuses are for losers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saginaw,_Michigan

population estimate ... 57,523

The City of Saginaw is served by Delta College and Saginaw Valley State University, which are located in nearby University Center, Michigan and a campus of Davenport University, located in Kochville Township. Central Michigan University maintains an off-campus center inside the city that offers numerous degree programs.


So you have over fifty thousand people and multiple colleges, yet there are no attractive women? I don't believe that at all. Next you'll be telling us that you are shunned by all humanity due to your horrifically short stature, being born to grow only to the freakish shortness of 5' 8."
50 thousand people living off of government subsudies.

Most of those college women don't live or be caught dead in Saginaw County. All but one of those Colleges are in the next county. That Wikipedia article sounds like hot air to make Saginaw County sound like a good place to live when it isn't. Everyone I knew moved out. I am one of the last to stay but looks like I will leave, too.

I am 38 and most of the women I encounter of my age are barroom burnouts.

The place I am in is like a New Orleans slum. All drugs and alcohol. Bad factory rat mentality. Most of the good leadership type of people have moved out years ago.

The last woman I went out with said she would never move where I am just based on its reputation.

This isn't a college town at all. For that I have to move south of Flint.

My first move is to look for another place to live so I can be around better women.
 

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LoneRanger said:
I screwed up.
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Yes you did. But you're doing the right thing by coming here and asking what we thought of it, and then listening to what we tell you. :cool:
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Thanks for the great critique. I will use them the next time.

She is looking for her "soul mate" and is looking for a relationship. This is not a casual dating situation.

She drove up 120 miles to see me for our first date. She is a hottie, lives in a condo with her sister and I bet easy to get into bed being she is a total airhead. Completely disconnected from reality. 34 years old with great skin tone. You have to see it to believe it.

You'll never see her type around here in Mid-Michigan. I am in her part of the state several times a month anyway so if things work out we may meet where she lives.

That is.. if I haven't turned her off.
haha funny. I grew up In Saginaw near Swan Valley. Went to Hemlock Schools. Funny though, because when I lived there the girls who went to Swan Valley and Heritage were hot hot hot.
 

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haha funny. I grew up In Saginaw near Swan Valley. Went to Hemlock Schools. Funny though, because when I lived there the girls who went to Swan Valley and Heritage were hot hot hot.
How many of them are still hot at 35 - 40 years old? ;) Women here in Saginaw County are HUGE. I see very few who actually take care of themselves.
 

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How many of them are still hot at 35 - 40 years old? ;) Women here in Saginaw County are HUGE. I see very few who actually take care of themselves.
Well I will say that when I go back to visit my parents who still live in Shields, it doesn't exactly look like a hotbed for women. After Saginaw I moved to Fenton, which had some nice hotties, and then to the Macomb/Rochester area which had even more, and now I am in the Santa Monica CA area where they are literally everywhere.

But man I tell ya back when i went to school (grad in 91) the girls who sent to Heritage and Swan Valley especially were off the charts in hotness.
 

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As for your email yeah it came off a little boring. I would forgo the long email next time and just go with a simple, "had fun, I KNOW YOU did :), hit me up when you want to hang out again" kind of thing.
 

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cordoncordon said:
Well I will say that when I go back to visit my parents who still live in Shields, it doesn't exactly look like a hotbed for women. After Saginaw I moved to Fenton, which had some nice hotties, and then to the Macomb/Rochester area which had even more, and now I am in the Santa Monica CA area where they are literally everywhere.

But man I tell ya back when i went to school (grad in 91) the girls who sent to Heritage and Swan Valley especially were off the charts in hotness.
South of Flint there is much better employment opportunities for college educated people, besides working for a government entity.

You are right. Those areas are full of hot 35 - 45 year old single women. The main reason, I believe, is that they take better care of themselfs and have more self respect. And better standards on how they conduct themselves.

I do not find that in Saginaw, MI. Mostly loud mouth drunks that have three kids from three daddies. The few really good looking ones are foul brats, from my experiences.

Take a walk around Fashion Square Mall on a busy day and then go to the Bay City or Midland Mall. The kind of women you'll see is a world of difference.

A female friend of mine says that for every 6 women in mid-MI there is one eligible man so at least I have that.

The general population of the Detroit metro area has some of the best looking women I've ever seen. They are everywhere.
 

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The general population of the Detroit metro area has some of the best looking women I've ever seen. They are everywhere.

True dat. Very VERY underrated when it comes to hot women. Especially mid 20's to mid 30's, educated, professional women. Walk around any mall in the suburbs of Detroit like in Troy, Rochester, or Macomb and you would be amazed at the hotness level.
 

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True dat. Very VERY underrated when it comes to hot women. Especially mid 20's to mid 30's, educated, professional women. Walk around any mall in the suburbs of Detroit like in Troy, Rochester, or Macomb and you would be amazed at the hotness level.
I've been around there many times. You are correct. It is like being on another planet.

Was at last years Police concert at the Palace and about 80% of the people there were tall, HOT women. Not one fugly among them.

I envy Sting. :)
 

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I would recommend the Macomb/Rochester area if you want to move somewhere nice and upcoming in the Detroit area, It's about 15 minutes east of the Palace.
 

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Women here in Saginaw County are HUGE.
I've been to Michigan several times. Yep, LoneRanger is right. I thought they were cattle herds. Turns out they were people. Maybe that's why the Grand Hotel needs to have the world's biggest porch?

There was a misunderstanding with the clerk and she ended up paying for both.
I think you missed the nuance of my point. You had written that she wanted to pay for herself. THAT'S indicative of someone who doesn't want to feel obliged. It's not about that she ended up paying for you too.

She wanted to go somewhere else with me afterward but I cut it to a short 30 minute meeting. She had just got back from the eye doctor, had to wear shades the whole time and commented that her eyes were hurting
So she didn't get a good look at you? Just kidding.

Hard to tell with this one, to be honest. She shows some signs of interest - but which could be explained away - and some of not having interest. So to be honest, I'd say she's not that interested, but she's bored or lonely or something. You'll find out.

So you may have to move out of there and go to where the women are.
 

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Mr. Me said:
So you may have to move out of there and go to where the women are.
I just spent the evening looking at houses in white collar, professional populated subdivisions. The kind with no sidewalks and all pine trees.

These upscale homes are priced at $200,000 and less! Most of the ones I see are a couple rooms short of being mansions! :eek: My type of house. :rockon:

Some of these places have been on the market for over 6 months.

I saw a lot of hot looking women jogging past me, too. :)
 

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Mr. Me said:
Hard to tell with this one, to be honest. She shows some signs of interest - but which could be explained away - and some of not having interest. So to be honest, I'd say she's not that interested, but she's bored or lonely or something. You'll find out.
I am beginning to think that she is one of those women who has never had to do anything for herself to the point where she can't take care of herself. Its because of her looks. She is also addicted to how she looks

She's a self employed message therapist who lives in a condo with her sister. Probably doing a guy right now.

A day has gone by and she never contacted me. Could be for any reason but I am writing her off.

She is not someone who is capable of an intelligent conversation, anyway and is as scattered in the head as a crystal meth user. When talking to her, my impression that she is lost, could care less what happens and not self sustaining.

When I used to go to bars the women who were interested were very attentive to me. I work out, eat right and am told I have a "innocent baby face." The first date I had this year didn't last 10 minutes before she was sticking her tongue down my throat and hand in my pants. Now this.

I heading to the bar to see what happens tonight.
 

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LoneRanger said:
I just spent the evening looking at houses in white collar, professional populated subdivisions. The kind with no sidewalks and all pine trees.

These upscale homes are priced at $200,000 and less! Most of the ones I see are a couple rooms short of being mansions! :eek: My type of house. :rockon:

Some of these places have been on the market for over 6 months.

I saw a lot of hot looking women jogging past me, too. :)
Where at? Saginaw or the Detroit area?
 

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Saginaw Twp. in the well to do subdivisions. Will check out lower MI this weekend.
Oh man what part of Saginaw do you live? Gotta be the downtown, Bridgeport, or Buena Vista area? Because if you think its nice in Saginaw Township, where I lived, that is nothing compared to the Detroit suburb area.
 

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Oh man what part of Saginaw do you live? Gotta be the downtown, Bridgeport, or Buena Vista area? Because if you think its nice in Saginaw Township, where I lived, that is nothing compared to the Detroit suburb area.
Zilwaukee. There are no good single women here my age. I see mostly stoners. Lots of the good ones moved out of the area a long time ago.

Besides, it is very cliquish here and the local barmaid has made sure I stay an outcast.

I just found a duplex for rent on the other side of town. Really run down but it will get me away from the situation I am in now with the dog until I can find a house. Going to call the landlord tomorrow.
 
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