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Special EDy said:
Correct on the tolerance statement, tolerance only goes one way and intolerance only goes one way., for equality. Christians are asking for intolerance of gays, for inequality. Thanks for agreeing with me.:up:
Nah. They want a bit more than "tolerance" nowadays. They had "tolerance" when they kept their deviancy to the bedroom back when nobody gave much of a fvck.

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Gays are asking for tolerance
With a bullhorn in your schools, streets and media. And by force of law you WILL "tolerate" it.......or else.





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Danger said:
Who said Christianity isn't promoted by Christians? I never made that argument.

My question you keep avoiding is to find me a gay who was fired for promoting their agenda. I am still waiting.


All strawman arguments. I didn't say Christians get fired for being anti-gay. I said they are being persecuted.

So, you still keep avoiding the question. Show me a person who was fired for promoting the gay agenda.


Meanwhile I am on the FIFTH request for someone who was fired for promoting the gay agenda.

You keep avoiding the subject. I. Wonder. Why.


He was fired. He was reinstated due to the backlash and the rest of the family walking out on the contract.

Additionally, it still supports the argument of Christians being persecuted which is the core discussion here.
He wasnt fired for being a Christian, he wasn't persecuted for being a christian, he was terminated for his speech. They hired him knowing he was a Christian, and he signed a contract stating that they could terminate him for public statements they didn't approve of.

"We are extremely disappointed to have read Phil Robertson's comments in GQ, which are based on his own personal beliefs and are not reflected in the series 'Duck Dynasty'".

"His personal views in no way reflect those of A&E Networks, who have always been strong supporters and champions of the LGBT community. The network has placed Phil under hiatus from filming indefinitely."


If he'd of been a Muslim he would of gotten the same treatment. Regardless of his religion, his statement got him fired. As I've stated countless times in this thread, you cannot be fired based on your creed, only for your actions or words.


Danger said:
So, you still keep avoiding the question. Show me a person who was fired for promoting the gay agenda.

Meanwhile I am on the FIFTH request for someone who was fired for promoting the gay agenda.

You keep avoiding the subject. I. Wonder. Why.

I think you mean there are 29 states which do not have explicit protection for gays. What you are trying to imply is that these states are rife with firings of gays. If so, then give some examples. It should be easy.
-Fifteen percent to 43 percent of gay and transgender workers have experienced some form of discrimination on the job.
-Eight percent to 17 percent of gay and transgender workers report being passed over for a job or fired because of their sexual orientation or gender identity.
-Ten percent to 28 percent received a negative performance evaluation or were passed over for a promotion because they were gay or transgender.
-Seven percent to 41 percent of gay and transgender workers were verbally or physically abused or had their workplace vandalized.

-Ninety percent of transgender individuals have encountered some form of harassment or mistreatment on the job.
-Forty-seven percent of workers have experienced an adverse job outcome because they are transgender. This includes:
-Forty-four percent who were passed over for a job
Twenty-three percent who were denied a promotion
-And 26 percent who were fired because they were transgender

http://www.americanprogress.org/iss...s-of-workplace-discrimination-and-harassment/



Danger said:
I think you mean there are 29 states which do not have explicit protection for gays. What you are trying to imply is that these states are rife with firings of gays. If so, then give some examples. It should be easy.

I would say firing someone for saying that they would find d1cks inside anuses disgusting is pretty intolerant. I find it disgusting, but I am very tolerant of people's beliefs.

Tolerance means not censoring someone because you disagree with them. That includes Christians who think gay sex is sinful or disgusting.

I am only asking you to list one. But you still can't seem to do it.

So far the score is one firing of a Christian for what he said and zero firings of pro-gays for the same action.
Exactly, apparently firing someone for what they say is persecution, but firing them for simply being who they are isn't?
Lisa Howe (Tennessee)
This former Belmont University soccer coach was fired in December 2010 after she came out to her soccer team that she is a lesbian and announced that she and her partner were expecting their first child. While the university’s official statement at first said that she had resigned, it was soon amended to say that the decision had been mutual, and that her continuing to work for Belmont would not be beneficial to her or the university. Demonstrators protested Howe’s termination, as she was a highly successful and popular coach, and they called for an official apology, which they never received. Although Belmont had terminated its ties with the Tennessee Baptist Church in 2007, chairman of Belmont's board of trustees Marty ****ens told The Tennessean that, "We expect people to commit themselves to high moral and ethical standards within a Christian context."

Vandy Beth Glenn (Georgia)
In 2005, Vandy Beth Glenn began working as the legislative editor of the Georgia General Assembly while still presenting as a man, Glenn Morrison. Glenn was fired in October 2007 for revealing to her supervisor that she planned to transition from male to female. Her boss, legislative counsel Sewell Brumby, allegedly told her that “her gender transition and presentation of herself as a woman would be seen as immoral, could not happen appropriately in the workplace in which Glenn worked and would make other employees uncomfortable.” This story has a happy ending, however: Glenn sued, and U.S. District Court Judge Story ruled that she was illegally fired based on sex discrimination. The judge ordered that she be compensated for wages during the appeals process. Finally, in December 2011, the appeals court ruled that she should be allowed to return to work.

Michael Carney (Massachusetts)
This police officer from Springfield, MA was one of the witnesses in the Congressional hearing on the Employee Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) after Congressmen Barney Frank (D-MA) and Richard Neil (D-MA) asked him to testify. He initially left his job as a police officer due to the stress of remaining closeted, but his former employers refused to hire him again after he came out. Carney fought for years to be allowed to work again, a battle that he eventually won. His success highlights the struggles others still face, as he pointed out to Midweek Politics when he said that if he “was a federal officer, or didn’t live in Massachusetts,” he probably wouldn’t have been allowed to continue working.

Jodi O’Brien (Wisconsin)
O’Brien, a sociology professor at Seattle University who is openly a lesbian and writes about sexuality, was originally offered a job as dean of one of Marquette University’s colleges. In May 2010, her offer was rescinded. The Roman Catholic and Jesuit-run University told the New York Times that she lacked “the ability to represent the Marquette mission and identity.” University President Rev. Robert A. Wild argued that the choice not to hire O’Brien wasn’t due to her sexuality, but rather to her academic writing, in which he found “strongly negative statements about marriage and family.” O’Brien has written extensively about the topic of gay marriage; if this isn’t discrimination based on sexual orientation, it’s certainly discrimination based on beliefs about sexual orientation. Is there a substantial difference between the two?

Peter TerVeer (District of Columbia)
This case is playing out as we speak. Until April 2012, TerVeer was a management analyst for the Library of Congress. He claims that he was harassed and fired because of his sexual orientation, and he has filed a discrimination complaint. WJLA reported that he received emails in 2009 from his boss referencing bible passages that speak against homosexuality, and that “he stated that as a homosexual I could never succeed because it was against God’s law.” The trouble apparently all started when TerVeer “liked” a page on Facebook called Two Dads

source: http://mic.com/articles/11738/5-peo...y-and-the-29-states-where-that-is-still-legal

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Danger said:
Plain as day but here you are, denying it in all of your intolerance.



Tolerance means accepting people disagree with you and not trying to silence them cupcake. You think disagreement is intolerance, which his exactly why you only wish to censor those who disagree with you as opposed to tolerating their own viewpoint.

The proof is everywhere. Make an "anti-gay" statement and it isn't tolerated, meanwhile we have to tolerate the leftist gay agenda. Liberal hypocrisy and you are just another tool in that effort.
Like I said earlier, intolerance of intolerance?
paraphrased from Wikipedia said:
The tolerance paradox arises from a problem that a tolerant person might be antagonistic toward intolerance, hence intolerant of it. The tolerant individual would then be by definition intolerant of intolerance.

A just society must tolerate the intolerant, for otherwise, the society would then itself be intolerant, and thus unjust. However, society has a reasonable right of self-preservation that supersedes the principle of tolerance: "While an intolerant sect does not itself have title to complain of intolerance, its freedom should be restricted only when the tolerant sincerely and with reason believe that their own security and that of the institutions of liberty are in danger."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance#cite_note-Rawls1921-2
 

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Danger said:
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Who else has spouted Christian beliefs in an interview outside of those hosts who are paid specifically to do so?

The one-time you see a Christian come out with it on his own time, he loses his job over it. Are you really suggesting there is no pattern here?

But, given that it is the only Christian I know of who spoke out.....and was fired for it, it speaks volumes that he was persecuted whereas not a single gay was fired for coming out public with his own opinions.

I see 100% persecution here, unless you can show me someone who was spouting it and didn't get fired from his job.
Tracy Morgan, Mel Gibson, Chris Brown, Alec Baldwin, Pat Robertson, Donald Trump, Cee Lo Green, Eminem, just about any conservative politicial, an enourmous number of news hosts and guests
Your post only serves to provide more proof of persecution of Christians. None of your examples are even mainstream or resulted in the firing of someone. Your first example has nothing to do with Christianity, you are really stretching and it shows.
^^^Does that mean I win, I gave you exactly what you asked for. Or did you just forget your own argument?

I also provided you with an ample number of examples of conservative or christian groups boycotting major brands. Most of the celebrities I listed actually said a homophobic slur and are not simply outspoken
Not it just means that you found someone who wasn't fired, who wasn't a Christian. Great for you, but they were still persecuted for saying their point of view, so you only found another example of oppression.

Most of the celebrities you listed are NOT Christian and in any case they were still heavily vilified for speaking their viewpoint, which is why I state you are only proving my case.
Mel Gibson- Christian, heck he produced The Passion of Christ
Chris Brown - Born Again Christian
Alec Baldwin - Catholic
Pat Robertson - Baptist
Donald Trump - Presbytarian
Cee Lo Green - Christian / Nondenominational?
Eminem - Christian

Which ones exactly got fired? Which ones arent Christians again? Oh right, cant find Tracy Morgan's religion so nobody on the list counts. Way to ignore facts
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All strawman arguments. I didn't say Christians get fired for being anti-gay. I said they are being persecuted.

So, you still keep avoiding the question. Show me a person who was fired for promoting the gay agenda

Glad we solved that one. Let me know if you need anymore help keeping your arguments straight.;)
 

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When I was growing up in the 60s and 70s, I remember guys would drive around and if they saw a guy who was known to be gay, they would stop the car, pile out, and beat him up. Odd thing is, usually it turned out that the guy orchestrating these beatings was gay himself. I don't know if it was a way for them to meet other gay men, or trying to hide their inner feelings, or acting out some sort of self loathing.

Now days though, far from being persecuted, managements where I live are in such fear of getting slapped with a discrimination lawsuit, gays are pampered and get away with stuff no one else can. They tend to be promoted first, which creates clusters of gay people at the top, who promote more gay people.

I've seen newly hired gays brought in at the top of the pay scale, while everyone else had to start at the bottom. I've seen gay people who came to work at the beginning of their shift, left for most of the day, and came back to clock out, and still get paid, and no one said boo to them. And I've seen this go on for years. If you live long enough, you'll see some weird sh!t. Times change.

Oh, and Phil Robertson was suspended, not fired. But whatever.
 

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zekko said:
Now days though, far from being persecuted, managements where I live are in such fear of getting slapped with a discrimination lawsuit, gays are pampered and get away with stuff no one else can. They tend to be promoted first, which creates clusters of gay people at the top, who promote more gay people.

I've seen newly hired gays brought in at the top of the pay scale, while everyone else had to start at the bottom. I've seen gay people who came to work at the beginning of their shift, left for most of the day, and came back to clock out, and still get paid, and no one said boo to them. And I've seen this go on for years. If you live long enough, you'll see some weird sh!t. Times change.

Oh, and Phil Robertson was suspended, not fired. But whatever.
This is what I've seen, even going back before the latest gay agenda and over 20 years ago. I remember reading somewhere that gays were one of the most economically prosperous groups.

You can always find a few cases of someone claiming discrimination because they're gay. More likely they were weirdos in general and poor employees and started waving the gay card when they realized they'd be fired.

Male heterosexuals, whites and Christians are discriminated against by the millions. It's just hard to prove why they were discriminated against and that group rarely makes claims of discrimination and can almost never win them no matter how compelling the evidence.

There are all sorts of laws of sexual "harassment" in education and the workplace that were aimed against white heterosexual males for years now.

Special edy hasn't given any compelling reason why gays shouldn't be discriminated against. You don't even have to reference religion to have the position gays are hostile to heterosexuals and families, deviant and a public health threat.

What's really bad is he or she believes that people should be fired or denied opportunities for speech even away form the workplace, but people shouldn't be fired for abnormal behavior.

The gay "rights" agenda is just as fallacious or more as the feminist agenda. No one should have to support it just because special edy and his/her ilk think it's superstitious and bigoted not to.
 

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Stagger Lee said:
Male heterosexuals, whites and Christians are discriminated against by the millions. It's just hard to prove why they were discriminated against and that group rarely makes claims of discrimination and can almost never win them no matter how compelling the evidence.
They have no protections. Gays (or women) always have that "You're firing me because I'm gay (or female), I'm suing you for discrimination" card to play. A male Christian has no such card to play, so he makes a much easier target, and is much easier to get rid of. If you want to fire a gay person, then you have to build an airtight case against them.
 

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*shrug* based on his college and preseason stats, he will likely be picked up elsewhere. No biggie that he was cut. Rams have enough when it comes to defense already.
 

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Jaylan said:
*shrug* based on his college and preseason stats, he will likely be picked up elsewhere.
college stats mean nothing, college stats are only looked at to get drafted by an nfl team, once you are in the nfl they look at what you've done in pre season, college doesn't matter, the nfl is a totally different ballgame than college, he was cut because he sucked, other teams are going look at his pre season stats if they choose to pick him up, not college.

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No biggie that he was cut. Rams have enough when it comes to defense already.
why not? good players don't get cut, that shows he sucked, if he was any good the rams would keep him to have a stronger defense, nice excuses you make.

you sure are biased for people you like, just like you pal reverend al, be objective for a change without being biased, tell it like it is for once.
 

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college stats mean nothing, college stats are only looked at to get drafted by an nfl team, once you are in the nfl they look at what you've done in pre season, college doesn't matter, the nfl is a totally different ballgame than college, he was cut because he sucked, other teams are going look at his pre season stats if they choose to pick him up, not college.



why not? good players don't get cut, that shows he sucked, if he was any good the rams would keep him to have a stronger defense, nice excuses you make.

you sure are biased for people you like, just like you pal reverend al, be objective for a change without being biased, tell it like it is for once.
Lmfao @ you bringing up al sharpton. Clown fvking troll to the max.
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No takers lol. Does the practice squad count? :cheer:
I still think the kid will play a snap in the NFL. And if he doesnt, no big deal. What's funny though are all the haters on the internet reveling in the fact that the kid was cut. People need to get their jollies elsewhere instead of hoping for or taking pleasure in someone else's misfortune.
 

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he made a few good plays this preseason and was good enough to be drafted.
so what? a few good pre season plays and his college stats doesn't mean anything, that was my point to jaylan which he ignored, obviously the rams didn't like what they saw from him or he would be on the roster, it has nothing to do with him being gay, it's that he wasn't good enough to make the team, other teams will look at that as well.


archie manning made a few good passes but sucked as a quarterback.

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but there have been gay players in the NFL before and as long as they got the job done, it was fine.
there were gay players before, still are, but they kept it to themselves, kept it only in the lockerroom, they didn't "come out" and have the media talk about it, back then there wasn't much media as there is today, people didn't talk about gays then like they do now..

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That and for the love of God they need to get rid of the pink breast cancer "accents" on NFL uniforms in October. I think I'm sufficiently aware of breast cancer now.

that isn't your decision to make, i have no problem with it, why do you? for the players/people who lost a loved one its a big deal for them to add money for cancer research and to remember a mom/sister/aunt/cousin/grandma/wife/girlfriend/friend that died from the disease, nothing wrong with it at all.



Jaylan said:
Lmfao @ you bringing up al sharpton. Clown fvking troll to the max.
way to project again. :up:

you call me a troll when i'm telling it like it is, that's funny :crackup:

funny how you ignored the part where you were wrong about college stats and that he sucked, the only part you replied to was about reverend al, that's being a troll lol

every time you are being biased in your posts i'm going to bring it up.

Jaylan said:
I still think the kid will play a snap in the NFL. And if he doesnt, no big deal. What's funny though are all the haters on the internet reveling in the fact that the kid was cut. People need to get their jollies elsewhere instead of hoping for or taking pleasure in someone else's misfortune.
and you say it's no big deal that he was cut when you are upset about random internet posters making fun of him lol

you would be laughing right along with them if it was a guy that you didn't like.
 

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asa_don said:
that isn't your decision to make, i have no problem with it, why do you? for the players/people who lost a loved one its a big deal for them to add money for cancer research and to remember a mom/sister/aunt/cousin/grandma/wife/girlfriend/friend that died from the disease, nothing wrong with it at all.
I think you're missing his point. I think he's talking about yet more feminist territory marking than the actual act of cancer awareness and fund raising for cancer research. As in it's more to do with the conscious effort underway to flood and eventual total erosion of any and all remaining traditional male spaces. Also considering almost every type of cancer kills more men than women I'm sure men are just as eager for a cure.
 

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Asa fancies himself a top NFL scout. Players who get Defensive Player of the year honors in college are far from bad. And Sam had a good preseason too. Like I said, he will play snaps in regular season football, and dudes like you will have to eat your hat with all the "hes a crappy player" talk.

All in all, Ill take the opinions of professional analysts over a clown on an internet forum. Most analysts Ive heard have faith in Sam getting a gig, and respect his skills. Asa sounds like the idiots in NY who tried to put down Victor Cruz before he broke out. And trust me, we had idiots complaining about our WRs before the guy blew up. Victor Cruz went from an overlooked second teamer to Super Bowl champ and the best slot receiver in the game during his first year playing full time in the league.

If Cruz can go from being an undrafted rookie to being Eli Manning's go-to guy and a Super Bowl champion, I think a guy like Michael Sam will be just fine.
 

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I definitely don't take pleasure in his misfortune, but I don't see how being gay should make one a celebrity either.
Good point. But the media wanted us to admire him for his bravery like he was the next Jackie Robinson or something.

The Rams were deep in defensive linemen. Maybe another team would have picked him up if it wasn't for the media circus that follows him around. I doubt if too many coaches would want the distraction.
 

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Jaylan said:
Asa fancies himself a top NFL scout. Players who get Defensive Player of the year honors in college are far from bad. And Sam had a good preseason too. Like I said, he will play snaps in regular season football, and dudes like you will have to eat your hat with all the "hes a crappy player" talk.

All in all, Ill take the opinions of professional analysts over a clown on an internet forum. Most analysts Ive heard have faith in Sam getting a gig, and respect his skills. Asa sounds like the idiots in NY who tried to put down Victor Cruz before he broke out. And trust me, we had idiots complaining about our WRs before the guy blew up. Victor Cruz went from an overlooked second teamer to Super Bowl champ and the best slot receiver in the game during his first year playing full time in the league.

If Cruz can go from being an undrafted rookie to being Eli Manning's go-to guy and a Super Bowl champion, I think a guy like Michael Sam will be just fine.
fvckin' hilarious, i knew jaylan would post something just like this, defending sam all the way with his biased opinions while attacking me in the process, what a guy. :crackup:

jaylan is the typical liberal clown that uses reverend al smear moves against another person, he does it all the time, a man with no substance, only opinons.

i stated facts where jaylan was wrong, facts that are the truth about college stats meaning nothing and sam getting cut, he got mad and didn't like what i said about sam which is the truth.

what does he do? he offers his own opinion about sam "taking snaps" in the nfl which he may or may not do, depending if a team wants him or not, talks about cruz which doesn't even matter, then he attacks and smears me without even knowing what job i have.

he ignored the fact that sam sucked in the pre season, got cut, no other team has shown any interest yet, he avoids all that, offers his own opinion because he likes sam, defends him, then attacks me, just like reverend al does, he does this with every poster he disagrees with, ignores the facts, offers his opinion, then insults/attacks you.

jaylan, i had like 22 or 23 people already pm me, they were thanking me for calling you out on your b.s the last week, what does that tell you? i think that speaks volumes.


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I think you're missing his point. I think he's talking about yet more feminist territory marking than the actual act of cancer awareness and fund raising for cancer research. As in it's more to do with the conscious effort underway to flood and eventual total erosion of any and all remaining traditional male spaces. Also considering almost every type of cancer kills more men than women I'm sure men are just as eager for a cure.
major league baseball raises money for Prostate cancer awareness just as breast cancer, players even use pink or blue bats, i have friends in the game and they have no problem with it.


samspade said:
My point exactly. That and it looks hideous and ruins good uniforms. Some uniforms are already ugly, but they don't need pink making them worse just to "raise awareness."
nike already ruined the uniforms since they took over from reebok, uniforms shouldn't be that big of a big deal, players aren't complaining about it, the game is what counts.

don't watch any games in october, how about that? then you won't have to see it. :up:



PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Not hating on him, hating on the unwarranted politically motivated hype. He was a 7th rounder, you need to stick to futbol lol.

the jaylan game is to defend whoever he likes, no matter what, just like his pal reverend al does.

even if they suck, are hypocrites, do bad things, liars, do crimes, whatever, if you disagree with jaylan he will get mad, defend them, use his own opinions for an argument, deflect the truth, then attack you to prove his point.

sam wasn't a high pick, sucked in the pre season, got cut, now waiting to hear from other teams, thats the truth, jaylan offers his own b.s. opinions deflecting the truth going on the defense of sam and going on the attack against others.

he will come back again with another smear response, or will say he won't discuss it, its no big deal, that is his m.o.
 

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zekko said:
Good point. But the media wanted us to admire him for his bravery like he was the next Jackie Robinson or something.
What bravery?

Jaylan said:
Players who get Defensive Player of the year honors in college are far from bad. And Sam had a good preseason too. Like I said, he will play snaps in regular season football, and dudes like you will have to eat your hat with all the "hes a crappy player" talk.

If Cruz can go from being an undrafted rookie to being Eli Manning's go-to guy and a Super Bowl champion, I think a guy like Michael Sam will be just fine.
Are you a Professional Football analyst? :rolleyes:
 

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Pardner said:
Are you a Professional Football analyst? :rolleyes:
lol, no he is not, but he gives his "expert analysis" after he attacks others for their analysis.


Jaylan said:
I dont care about the situation to much. Im happy the dude can be himself and be open about it. And Im also glad people in the future wont have to pretend to be something their not. Outside of that...the haters need to grow the fvk up. And also the media needs to move on until the season is up and going.

Michael Sam will be just fine. He's gonna get trucked some times, and hes gonna truck other people many times. I think the kid will have a decent career. Im predicted a middle of the road guy who plays for a few different teams in his career. Unless he has an amazing rookie season, then I might think he can do more.


Jaylan said:
*shrug* based on his college and preseason stats, he will likely be picked up elsewhere. No biggie that he was cut. Rams have enough when it comes to defense already.

Jaylan said:
Asa fancies himself a top NFL scout. Players who get Defensive Player of the year honors in college are far from bad. And Sam had a good preseason too. Like I said, he will play snaps in regular season football, and dudes like you will have to eat your hat with all the "hes a crappy player" talk.

All in all, Ill take the opinions of professional analysts over a clown on an internet forum. Most analysts Ive heard have faith in Sam getting a gig, and respect his skills. Asa sounds like the idiots in NY who tried to put down Victor Cruz before he broke out. And trust me, we had idiots complaining about our WRs before the guy blew up. Victor Cruz went from an overlooked second teamer to Super Bowl champ and the best slot receiver in the game during his first year playing full time in the league.

If Cruz can go from being an undrafted rookie to being Eli Manning's go-to guy and a Super Bowl champion, I think a guy like Michael Sam will be just fine.
he says he "doesn't care", "no biggie", but he sure has enough biased opinions to spread around on this. :crackup:

jaylan only likes sam because he is gay, that is obvious, if he was a player from some other team that got cut, he wouldn't even care.


Jaylan said:
Players who get Defensive Player of the year honors in college are far from bad.
that's why i said college stats or awards mean nothing, its what you do in the nfl that counts, not college, lots of players are good in college, they suck/aren't that good when they turn pro, college is a whole different ball game than pro sports, obviously you don't know that.

Jaylan said:
And Sam had a good preseason too
the rams didn't think so, he got cut, others teams apparently feel the same, nobody is picking him up.


Jaylan said:
Most analysts Ive heard have faith in Sam getting a gig, and respect his skills.
well, the analysts give their opinions just like you, the analysts' opinions don't matter either, it's what the team owners/gm's decide is what counts, when they see he can't cut the mustard he won't be taking any snaps in the nfl.

samspade said:
You sure like to argue.
i'm not arguing about anything, i'm stating a fact.


samspade said:
I will still watch. It is my opinion that it looks stupid and is unnecessary.
i know it's your opinion

the nfl doesn't care about your opinion, mine, or anybody else.

the nfl is doing it for a reason, to make people aware, to raise money, to save lives.

it's not unnecessary if it gets people up off their butts to get screened, that is the whole point of it, to be aware, to save lives.

how can you raise any breast cancer awareness or raise money when it isn't on display or talked about?


Bible_Belt said:
Women probably can't play football, but one of these days there will be a tranny kicker. It will be great for profits.
you're crazy, no woman or tranny will ever play pro sports.

Bible_Belt said:
The NFL is a T-Shirt company. They do pink to attract female fans. Money is the only moral. Women are an untapped fan base, and catering to them gets them to be fans and buy T-shirts. Nascar and UFC include women for the same reason.
not true at all, women who hate football aren't going to become huge fans just because a player wears pink gloves for the month.

has nothing to do with merchandise sales, most women don't wear pink jerseys, they wear team color/white jerseys.
 
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And the media wants us to feel guilty that he didn't make it as well.
Lol, that's probably true. Like it's the general public's bigotry that was the reason that he didn't make the team. Or maybe even that the Rams should have sucked it up and kept him anyway (at the cost of a better player), just because "some things are more important than football".

Pardner said:
What bravery?
For coming out of the closet, for being openly gay. Specifically for being an openly gay football player.
 

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asa_don said:
lthe nfl is doing it for a reason, to make people aware, to raise money, to save lives.
The NFL is a T-Shirt company. They do pink to attract female fans. Money is the only moral. Women are an untapped fan base, and catering to them gets them to be fans and buy T-shirts. Nascar and UFC include women for the same reason. Women probably can't play football, but one of these days there will be a tranny kicker. It will be great for profits.
 

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