American women Suck???

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Checked out americanwomensuck.com.
Found this.
Laughed my butt off.


QUOTE(Knight40 @ Jul 28 2004, 09:58 AM)
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Such bitterness by the man who wrote this list...

It's not just "American" women who are like this. It's women in general. In fact, the vast majority of women all over the world want the same things. They always have. Although I'm no fan of feminism...it isn't feminism that made women think the things they think. Feminism has just made them be more honest about it. Anywhere women are able to provide for themselves if they have or want to you are going to see this level of the women being this demanding. The only places you don't see this are areas where women are still incredibly dependent upon a man taking care of her. Women in places like that will tolerate more things that she dislikes simply because she has no choice.

To be perfectly honest...I haven't met many men who are all they're cracked up to be, either. People, in general, are very selfish. It's no easier dealing with today's men than it is dealing with today's women.
 

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YEAH........ What she just said.... I think we need to let go of all this ho-hatred, it does nothing but hurt you. Think positive thougts.....
 

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Originally posted by SELF-MASTERY
YEAH........ What she just said.... I think we need to let go of all this ho-hatred, it does nothing but hurt you. Think positive thougts.....
whatever you say, captain SAVE-A-HO! :p
 

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I actually agree with Wyldfire on this one.

I've met plenty of American women who act like the ones described in the original post, but I've also met a fair amount who are nothing like that.

American marketing and influence is present in nearly every other country in the world anyways. As the economy continues to globalize, the American influence is only going to become more powerful.

There's an old adage that says "90% of everything is crap". This applies to music, movies, TV, and yes, women. The solution is to exist only in the other 10%.
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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Dont get it ****ed up I aint never saved a ho in my life, a few women yes, but HO's no....Think positive and happy thoughts.
 

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Originally posted by Joe The Homophobe
whatever you say, captain SAVE-A-HO! :p
What does having the urge to "rescue" women have to do with this topic?

Not a damn thing...

Listen, if you are simply going to use theories and techniques from this site without putting any real thought into where they do and do not apply then the information here is NOT going to help you in any way.

Use your brain and THINK before parroting quotes and terminology used on this site.

Okay, carry on...
 

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Originally posted by ShizamDaMan
Eh, you just gotta learn how to work 'em :)
^yea^


I've met maaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnny different women from many different countries, believe me, it's not that great.

Things that are not their that you can have is always more highly prized than what you can have.....

The only really good thing about foreign women is that they're more knowledagable about different cultures and seem more intelligent. Also, they tend to know more about what's going on in the world.
 

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Originally posted by Wyldfire
It's not just "American" women who are like this. It's women in general. In fact, the vast majority of women all over the world want the same things. They always have. Although I'm no fan of feminism...it isn't feminism that made women think the things they think. Feminism has just made them be more honest about it.
Self-interest isn't a female feature, it is a Human one. But Feminism has nothing to do with honesty.

As the saying goes, it is not American women but women in America. The difference between Western Nations and non-Western nations is that the traditional controls or elements of shame have been removed in the West.

The primary purpose of Feminism was to let ugly women have more access to society. The secondary purpose of Feminism was to remove shame of female behavior. This is why if you meet a young feminist today, she is often tatooted, 'bisexual', and has a string of guys. She can do anything she wants except to force a guy to marry her. But they are working on this too.

http://news.independent.co.uk/media/article306271.ece

Anywhere women are able to provide for themselves if they have or want to you are going to see this level of the women being this demanding. The only places you don't see this are areas where women are still incredibly dependent upon a man taking care of her. Women in places like that will tolerate more things that she dislikes simply because she has no choice.
This is not true and is a popular feminist line. Women chant this almost unconsciously.

Outside of the West, and outside of Islamic dominated communities, women can live by themselves. The difference however is that there are more controls on female behavior. In many of these nations the community is much tightly knit, the woman (and man) are ensnared with duties. These controls could be found more in place on women in the West seventy years ago. Talk your elders and you will find this was so.

To be perfectly honest...I haven't met many men who are all they're cracked up to be, either. People, in general, are very selfish. It's no easier dealing with today's men than it is dealing with today's women.
The question is not whether it is easier or not to "deal with". Dealing with women is easy. But dealing with prejudices, biases, and the law is not. The 'players' have not realized this, as they are drunk on their own egos, but dealing with women is not the issue.

The issue is corporate women sleeping with the boss, getting promoted, or just plain brown-nosing and using their sexuality to control male bosses. This is a problem, as much due to female behavior as with Western male wussiness.

The issue is that men and women are equal under the law except women are 'more' equal. What legal rights over reproduction do men hold? None. What benifets versus liabilities do men and women hold according to marriage? Marriage gives men no legal benifets and only liabilities whereas it gives women all legal benifets and no liabilities. There is absolutely no reason for a male to get married today. Why buy the woman when you can lease?

Female nature is universal. What is not universal is the control and corruption. Just as a man with unbridled legal power often falls into corruptness, so too can females dealt with the same power. For example, many couples that I have seen married has the woman genuinely in love with the man. But as times passes, she realizes she has all the legal benifets and he has none.

But whatever one's opinion doesn't matter on the subject. What matters is demigraphics. Like it or not, the drop in birth rate and the marriage strike will rearrange society.

But this is all good. It is a correction. It is good to see men testing their children to see if they are actually theirs (and hilariously laugh that the media finds paternity testing to be bad in itself). http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20050811/hl_hsn/manydadsunknowinglyraisingotherskids

For each previous generation, men fell back and let women get away with their behavior. So, unsurprisingly, each generation of women keeps pushing the line. Well, it has gone too far. As demigraphics show, more and more men are becoming players and less are willing to buy the skank sandwich. This is good.

Forums like these are unnatural. It is no surprise to see it dominated by people in the West, whose men are wussified and women lacking all legal or moral controls.

Chivalry is rapidly eroding. Soon, a 'Man Drain' could occur similar to that in Australia. Remember, we observe based on what women do not on what they say. The demigraphics point to what women does with zero rhetoric.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?ObjectID=10337789

"If you are a 34-year-old heterosexual woman in New Zealand you have as much chance of finding a male partner your own age as does an 85-year-old woman,"

Welcome to the New World.
 

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Originally posted by Pook
Self-interest isn't a female feature, it is a Human one. But Feminism has nothing to do with honesty.
You're right...wrong choice of words...I should have said that women feel like there is less to lose by being more demanding. Feeling that way does tend to make them more open about what they don't like.
As the saying goes, it is not American women but women in America. The difference between Western Nations and non-Western nations is that the traditional controls or elements of shame have been removed in the West.
Too much emphasis on "American" women. Canadian, British and Israeli women (as well as a few other nationalities) are FAR worse than American women in regards to how demanding they are. Talk to some men from Israel and ask them how miserable the women there tend to be.

The primary purpose of Feminism was to let ugly women have more access to society. The secondary purpose of Feminism was to remove shame of female behavior. This is why if you meet a young feminist today, she is often tatooted, 'bisexual', and has a string of guys. She can do anything she wants except to force a guy to marry her. But they are working on this too.
I don't agree with you here. Although feminism was eventually used in that manner...it wasn't the initial goal. It began because women wanted the right to vote and own land. The beginning goals were admirable and fair. Somewhere along the lines those admirable goals went awry. Basically, it didn't stop at equality...it went for unfair advantage and continues to do so today.


This is not true and is a popular feminist line. Women chant this almost unconsciously.
Actually...this is very true...and I'm a walking example of it. If I were living 50 years ago I most likely would have stayed with my abusive ex husband because it would have been very difficult for me to provide for my 4 children if I left him. I would not have had as many choices. Let's face facts...not all men are good husbands, just like not all women are good wives. It's pretty equal between men and women as far as not being as good a marriage partner as they could or should be. Yes, women have an unfair legal advantage when divorce happens but men are not as innocent as many here would insiste them to be. Both men and women have their downsides...they always have and always will.

Outside of the West, and outside of Islamic dominated communities, women can live by themselves. The difference however is that there are more controls on female behavior. In many of these nations the community is much tightly knit, the woman (and man) are ensnared with duties. These controls could be found more in place on women in the West seventy years ago. Talk your elders and you will find this was so.
Are you talking about the more traditional gender roles? The women from foreign countries only stay that way if they stay in their home country. Bring them to the US and they change. I used to work with a whole bunch of Asian women and they were far more controlling, biotchier and more greedy than American women. One of them was married to another guy who I worked with and he was the most henpecked wussie I've ever seen. She was on his butt all the time. He worked in my area and she was over there at least 5 times throughout the day giving him orders. You know what they say...the grass is always greener...but once you get on the other side it's not much greener afterall. ;-)



The question is not whether it is easier or not to "deal with". Dealing with women is easy. But dealing with prejudices, biases, and the law is not. The 'players' have not realized this, as they are drunk on their own egos, but dealing with women is not the issue.
Agreed...and unfortunately, most women don't realize just how unfair it is for men. I make a point to talk about this issue with other women and when I point out how difficult it is for men in this aspect the majority of women drop their jaw and really think about it and get this "Oh my God" look on their face as if a lightbulb just went off over their head. You'd think it was obvious to women...but it's really not. I attribute that to the fact that most women tend to be pretty self-absorbed. They can't help it...it's just how most women are.

The issue is corporate women sleeping with the boss, getting promoted, or just plain brown-nosing and using their sexuality to control male bosses. This is a problem, as much due to female behavior as with Western male wussiness.
I wouldn't say it was "male wussiness" Pook. It's female AND male selfishness. The woman wants the promotion at all costs and the man wants a piece of tail at all costs. Either could simply say "No"...but their greedy self interest gets in the way. Tit for tat...

The issue is that men and women are equal under the law except women are 'more' equal. What legal rights over reproduction do men hold? None. What benifets versus liabilities do men and women hold according to marriage? Marriage gives men no legal benifets and only liabilities whereas it gives women all legal benifets and no liabilities. There is absolutely no reason for a male to get married today. Why buy the woman when you can lease?
I feel the same way about marriage. I often say it would take an amazing man, duct tape, rope and chloroform to ever get me to the altar again...and I'd be kicking and screaming the whole way. Women do have liabilities in marriage...I sure did. My ex husband totally destroyed my credit. I had good credit when we first got married. His irresponsibility ruined it. Bottom line...if a man or a woman chooses the wrong partner they're going to get screwed. And honestly...even family court isn't as bad as many men claim. My ex husband physically assaulted our 14 year old son and was thrown in jail for it. He still has a criminal case. I had let our son go live with him because my son wanted to try it. My son wants no contact with his father any more. The judge of family court keeps insisting that his father's rights to visitation are just as important as my son's safety and emotional well-being. Clearly in THIS case, my son's well being and safety should come first. It yet remains to be seen if it will.

Female nature is universal. What is not universal is the control and corruption. Just as a man with unbridled legal power often falls into corruptness, so too can females dealt with the same power. For example, many couples that I have seen married has the woman genuinely in love with the man. But as times passes, she realizes she has all the legal benifets and he has none.
Human beings are either honest or not...gender doesn't really matter here, either. It's pretty equal. It's just much easier to see the negative in the other sex. :)

But this is all good. It is a correction. It is good to see men testing their children to see if they are actually theirs (and hilariously laugh that the media finds paternity testing to be bad in itself). http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20050811/hl_hsn/manydadsunknowinglyraisingotherskids
I think they should just make paternity tests mandatory and routine whenever a baby is born. It's better for relationships that way. Trust is imperative in any relationship, so if the man demands a paternity test it does a lot of damage to the relationship. At the same time, men do have the right to know for sure a child is theirs. They shouldn't have to damage their relationship to appease any doubts they have. I would be terribly offended if a man demanded a paternity test. It would tell me that he did not trust me and I'm a firm believer that if you don't have trust, you don't have anything worth staying in. This is what is bad about asking for a test. If it were made mandatory and routine then the man would know and the woman wouldn't be offended at him asking.

For each previous generation, men fell back and let women get away with their behavior. So, unsurprisingly, each generation of women keeps pushing the line. Well, it has gone too far. As demigraphics show, more and more men are becoming players and less are willing to buy the skank sandwich. This is good.
And isn't the same true of men? C'mon Pook...the problem is with society as a whole. Yes, women get more and more miserable with each generation, but so do the men. While the women are out marathon shopping, slacking on the housework and cooking, sticking their kids in daycare and working the guys are boning the secretary, buying very expensive toys, drinking too much, maybe dabbling in some drugs, hanging out with the guys, ignoring their kids and wives and not doing anywhere near as good a job of providing for their family as their grandfathers did. People are selfish, self-absorbed and lazy. That's what it all boils down to.

Forums like these are unnatural. It is no surprise to see it dominated by people in the West, whose men are wussified and women lacking all legal or moral controls.
Of course it's dominated by people in Westernized countries...those Third World countries don't have broadband, silly...hehe.

I just got done working 3rd shift...pardon any typos, messed up sentence structure or otherwise.

Dude...you know I hate feminism probably more than anyone else on this forum...but you're too damn smart to not be able to see that PEOPLE in general are the problem...not just one gender. None of us are without fault...you and I included...even if we ARE damn near freaking perfect. ;-)
 

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One thing's for sure.

There is little incentive for any successful male to marry a Westernized women.

(I include the US, Canada, and England, from personal experience; though I see little reason to doubt most Western or Westernized countries are included. Women of Asian and Eastern European origin who have moved to the west bridge a middle ground, in my experience.)

The reason, as Pook keeps harping on, is that it clearly puts men at a legal and financial disadvantage, and Westernized women have especially high odds of abusing that advantage.

Early lust in a relationship usually fades within 6 months or so. I recommend no one consider marriage before that time, if at all.

The catch is that most women (repulsive and amazing) will be very reluctant to invest for the long-term in a man that sees little value in marriage.

I'd hate to avoid LTR's. Their quality is much richer than what you get with tail-chasing.
 

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Flogger, I think that if everyone took a lot more care in who they married and took their time to make sure they really know the other person AND put more effort into their relationships that there wouldn't be anywhere near as much for men to complain about. I have 3 sisters who have all been married over 20 years. One has been married 30 years. I was married for 10 and I really tried to stay. When I left my ex, I took only the kids and what we could carry onto the train, which wasn't much. I left him the house, all the furniture, two vehicles, the animals...everything. I didn't ask to keep anything. I wanted a reasonable amount of child support, which he even biotched about in light of having everything else. For 7 years he paid virtually nothing. I never took him back to court. I just wanted to get away from him and to have the kids full time. I never put a price tag on visitation. During those 7 years he saw the kids as often as he wanted. I made a bad choice and married an a$$hole with Borderline Personality Disorder. I was an idiot and I own that. Perhaps if more men looked closer at substance instead of how good of an arm piece a woman is they would have less to complain about. People need to take responsibility for their choices. Yes, there are plenty of women (and men) who are miserable and BAD marriage partners...but we all bear some of the blame of a failed marriage and suffering as a result of divorce IF we choose them to marry. Let us not forget about personal accountability here...
 

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No doubt a man is to blame for marrying without careful consideration, and at least partly to blame for a divorce. It would be unfair to say the responsibility isn't mutual.

But if a man still puts in due consideration, that won't improve the menu, so to speak, of Western women.

Consider also that men may have put in even less consideration in the past. After all, they had fewer choices.

The divorce rate is up for a number of reasons -- not merely because women feel more empowered.

But the combination of a higher divorce rate and woman-favoring divorce laws, puts a great amount of financial risk on the backs of men who choose to marry Western women.

There's a tipping point where the risk becomes too great.

We may end up marrying Western women mainly for the sake of our offspring, and not love.

If women felt less entitled, that might lead to an improvement. But feminism is now institutionalized in, at least, U.S. society. So reducing that risk and convincing men like myself to make the gamble will take quite a bit work at a societal level.
 

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Flogger...

I'll use myself as an example here. I am to blame for choosing to marry my ex husband. He is to blame for the divorce because he was extremely abusive, cheated on me, spent bill and grocery money on alcohol and drugs, to name just a few things. Unfortunately, my story is a lot more common than most here would like to admit. I know a lot of women who had similar experiences to mine. My best friend married a guy after she got pregnant. Their baby had ancephaly...it had only a brain stem but no brain. She died a couple of hours after being born. My friend's husband had sex with her other friend's teenage daughter in my best friend's bed and then robbed a bank and went to prison. She divorced him, and rightly so. I could cite at least ten more examples of women I know personally who got screwed over by men they married. They chose bad men and paid the price. When men choose bad women they also pay the price. It's all about accountability.

Today's men feel just as entitled as today's women do. Today's men are just as selfish as today's women are. Today's men are just as lazy as today's women are. Today's men are just as irresponsible as today's women are. Today's men, just like today's women want something for nothing, feel entitled to have everything handed to them on a silver platter and don't think they have to work and earn a damn thing.

Let's be honest here, shall we...it's not just women and it's not just men...people in general are selfish, lazy, irresponsible, feel entitled and want instant gratification without having to put any consideration whatsoever into the consequences of their choices. It's a society of freaking victimhood embracing whine a$$e$ who never take any responsibility for their own actions, choices and future.
 

Well I'm here to tell you there is such a magic wand. Something that will make you almost completely irresistible to any woman you "point it" at. Something guaranteed to fill your life with love, romance, and excitement.

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Damn Flogger, that last reply was great, and dead on the mark, I agree w/ every word of it.

Wyldfire, when I came to this site I was full of hope, but my dealings w/ women have drained it signifcantly. I'm not saying all women are bad though, there are some goodies out there. But women, it seems to me want to make courting a humiliating experience for men, which will get me walking fast. They seem to have an inflated view of themselves, like they KNOW you would give your arm up to bed them, it's ridiculous. By the time age deflates this view they have of themselves, they are fat. So to me, the problem is getting even larger for women than getting a guy to marry them. If things continue as they are, the main complaint from women may be of getting a man to even get in a LTR/ or even date them at all.

Men only will do this, not boys.
 

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Originally posted by crowes22
Damn Flogger, that last reply was great, and dead on the mark, I agree w/ every word of it.

Wyldfire, when I came to this site I was full of hope, but my dealings w/ women have drained it signifcantly. I'm not saying all women are bad though, there are some goodies out there. But women, it seems to me want to make courting a humiliating experience for men, which will get me walking fast. They seem to have an inflated view of themselves, like they KNOW you would give your arm up to bed them, it's ridiculous. By the time age deflates this view they have of themselves, they are fat.
crowes...although I see where you're coming from it still all comes down to responsibility. Most men could use a bit more self control regarding their sexual urges. Just as my ex was able to abuse me for 10 years because I ALLOWED him to do it...there are women who will take advantage of a horny man because he ALLOWS himself to be taken advantage of.

The point I'm attempting to make here is that it's so easy to blame someone else...be it women or men for our misfortunes in life. But that doesn't get us anywhere and doesn't teach us a damn thing. We only learn and grow when we start taking responsibility for our choices in life and hold ourselves accountable first. Blaming women doesn't make you happy...it just makes you bitter and angry. It also tends to make you overlook all the good women who are out there simply because you expect them to all be the same. Women do the same thing with men...and it's honestly such a waste of time and energy. It's good to be cautious as long as you're still open, ya know?
 

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Wyldfire, I agree.

It's hard to write this type of post without coming off as aggressive.

It's not about blame.

It's about an institutionalized sense of entitlement. At the moment it's heavily in favor of women. And I speak primarily in the legal sense.

It's also about the set of expectations that we supply to our kids (and were taught to us).

People of all stripes have a poor sense of personal responsibility, and an unrealistic impression of what they should strive for in relationships. In reality, the ideals we're taught aren't easily achieved. There's often a romanticism at the start of a relationship and a painful crash later on when reality hits (as you seem to have suffered yourself).

We need to re-educate ourselves about reasonable expectations. Before this happens though, people will continue to get burned.

For a guy with his sh!t together, myself included, it's hard finding a genuinely mature woman these days. I suspect the same is true for emotionally mature women (like yourself) with respect to men.

Crowes, your point about inflated self-concepts strikes a chord too. I've had the same impression on numerous occasions.
 

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THE LIFE OF A STEREOTYPICAL WESTERN SITUATION.

- Little girl grows up fantasizing about getting married.

- Dates alot of men.

- Finally finds the guy of her supposed fantasy and gets married.

- 6 months later she is pregnant. All of the sudden Marriage is not the fantasy that its cracked up to be. There are too many chores and things to do for this self serving, self absorbing indvidual, "oh well" she thinks, "things will be better once I have the baby"

- Woman has baby and gets fat and damending, husband gets stressed and angry. Woman now sees that her marriage fantasy didn't come true and blames the man for it. The man's fantasy of endless sex also comes to a halt

- Woman gets depressed.

- Woman now blames the man for bad marriage because her fantasy of happy marriage since she was a little girl is ruined. She build her whole life for this day and the man ruined it!! Watches more "DAYS OF OUR LIVES" to relive the fantasy through television.

- Watches more Oprah where man are always to blame for failed marriages and gets very angry.

- Hires a lawyer and empties their joint Chequing account, packs everything she can and moves out with the kid, while her husband gets home to find an empty house and a sepona to go to court and not much money to pay for a lawyer.

- Woman cries in front of the judge and the judge orders the man to pay through the teeths. She will have her revenge for the man who ruined her fantasy.

- Man ends up barley making ends meat while working long stressful hours for a child and a family he doesn't even have anymore. Man can't afford to start over again ( getting out of the debt near to impossible not to mention he can't really afford nor have the time to date much.)

- Woman and child move on together, and the woman is looking for another man to fulfil her childhood fantasy.

- Child grows up raised by a mother who smoothers him with no father guidance almost whatsoever.

- Child grows up, has difficulty in interaction with women because he has no idea how to be a man or act like a man.

- Child grows into a man frustrated, clueless and depresssed.

- Man finds SOSUAVE.....

THE END.
 

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Originally posted by Flogger
Wyldfire, I agree.

It's hard to write this type of post without coming off as aggressive.

It's not about blame.

It's about an institutionalized sense of entitlement. At the moment it's heavily in favor of women. And I speak primarily in the legal sense.

It's also about the set of expectations that we supply to our kids (and were taught to us).

People of all stripes have a poor sense of personal responsibility, and an unrealistic impression of what they should strive for in relationships. In reality, the ideals we're taught aren't easily achieved. There's often a romanticism at the start of a relationship and a painful crash later on when reality hits (as you seem to have suffered yourself).

We need to re-educate ourselves about reasonable expectations. Before this happens though, people will continue to get burned.

For a guy with his sh!t together, myself included, it's hard finding a genuinely mature woman these days. I suspect the same is true for emotionally mature women (like yourself) with respect to men.

Crowes, your point about inflated self-concepts strikes a chord too. I've had the same impression on numerous occasions.
You don't sound aggressive at all...maybe a tad bit frustrated, but not aggressive.

Legally, it's not quite as bad as most men think, either. There are more and more cases where women are getting arrested for DV right along side of the men. Family court has changed a lot in recent years. I'm dealing with that myself at the moment. My 14 year old son wanted to try living with his father. Even though I knew it wasn't going to work, I decided to give it a shot. It lasted about a year. At the end of May I got a phone call from the Vermont State Police informing me that I needed to come pick up my son because his father had assaulted him and was in jail. I got an emergency restraining order for my son and change in custody. A few days later we went to court and it got continued for 2 months. We went back last month and the judge assumed that I was doing something wrong and not being fair to my ex husband. Nothing could be further from the truth. Chirst...I let my son go live with him even though I knew it was a bad idea...you can't get much more fair than that. My son wants nothing to do with his father after the assault...and you can't blame him. This judge is of the opinion that there needs to be visitation. My boy is almost 15 and he doesn't want visitation and in light of the situation he shouldn't be forced to spend time with anyone who beat him up. Even the judge is failing to see that this is NOT about me or about my ex...it's about our son and what is in HIS best interest. We go back to court next month...and this time my son is coming along and demanding to be in the court room so he can speak for himself and make it clear to the judge that I'm representing what HE wants, not what I want.

The family court has repeatedly allowed my ex to get away without paying child support. He didn't pay anything at all in 7 years. They didn't take his license or throw his butt in jail. He was making plenty of money to buy new vehicles, a boat and anything he wanted. He didn't help provide for our children, though...and there were no consequences for that at all. That all began back in 1994...so clearly in my case it wasn't my ex husband that got screwed...it was my kids.

So...my ex got away without paying child support, he didn't lose any money or possessions when I left him, I didn't interfere in visitation even though he didn't pay any child support and I didn't keep taking him to court. He STILL biotched non-stop about how unfair it was to him. He even accused me of "kidnapping" my kids for leaving the state we lived in. Of course, he never acknowledged that I was justified in leaving him because he used to beat the hell out of me. He has filed numerous motions in court just to harass me. One of them he filed on the sly when he KNEW I was in Maine at the hospital with my dying father. I almost got into trouble for "contempt of court" for not showing up. And again...through all of this he STILL feels like a victim just because I was the one who left him. So...when you read those father's rights websites and listen to all the horror stories men tell about their divorces...remember that they might not be telling the whole truth. By the way my ex talks you'd think I was the most evil biotch on the planet when the fact is...he's just a bitter, miserable f*cktard.
 
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