Am I going to get my sunglasses back from this Cluster B??

[Findog]

Just encountered a Cluster B out in the wild. First date went really well. Second date - kind of meh. She's 32 and on the second encounter it became apparent she's a bit of a lush, and our lifestyles just really weren't compatible. Wouldn't have even bothered to call/text her after that except at sundown on our date, I (stupidly) asked her to hold on to my Ray Bans in her purse and at the end of the night forgot to get them back.

So I texted her a few days afterwards, just a generic how's it going message. No reply, so an hour later, I text again "Hey, I think I left my sunglasses in your purse. I was hoping to pick them up this week. (She lives 30 miles away from me). I can come up to your neck of the woods and I'll buy you a beer or a cup of coffee." She texts back immediately, makes a joke about how she sold my glasses to an international arms dealer, we text back and forth and make jokes and friendly banter, and tentatively made plans to meet up for coffee two days later where she'd bring me my glasses. I didn't say anything remotely in the area of "I only want my glasses back, I'm not interested in you." She even sent me a picture text of a "ransom note" from the glasses, saying if I ever want to see them again I'd better buy her a case of Blue Moon. Cute, funny stuff. The witty banter actually had me reconsidering being so dismissive of her after the second date. Girls with a sense of humor are hard to find, so I was actually looking forward to coffee and thinking that maybe I should keep an open mind towards continuing getting to know her.

At bedtime I hadn't heard from her, so I texted her again last night to firm up details about when/where to meet. She texts me back, and then tells me this long story about a kind, elderly man that she met a couple of weeks ago, and about how last night he gave her like a guitar and some very other expensive items as gifts. Then she says "I want to pay him back for his kindness and I'm gathering up used books since he's putting together a library. Do you have any old books you could donate?"

Not wanting to piss her off and mess up my chances of getting back my glasses, I reply "Sure I have some books I could donate. Otherwise they'd just collect dust on my shelves, plus I could only get like $5 for them at Half Price."

She texts back "Nevermind. Sale them to Half Price. If you have a mailing address, I'll ship you the sunglasses. Enjoy your $5 book." At this point I'm like WTF? but I don't want to piss this girl off and antagonize her, so I figure my best strategy at this point to get my glasses was to be beta, so I texted back "I'm really sorry if I said something to upset or offend you. I've enjoyed getting to know you and wish you well" blah blah blah. She replies "No worries. It's the fact that you don't understand that makes it clear."

I really wanted to say "You're right. I really don't understand, nor do I want to understand" but again, I'm trying to retrieve my $150 glasses. I don't get why she felt the need to insult me. How long should I wait before contacting her again if she hasn't mailed them to me?

 

[Solomon]

post A PIC OF HER MATE


Just curious to see what she looks like

 

[Findog]

post A PIC OF HER MATE


Just curious to see what she looks like

Don't have one. Her fb profile pic doesn't show her face.

 

[squirrels]

Charge it to the game.

Either that or keep bugging her to give them back to you. Be polite at first...if that doesn't work, threaten to file a police report or something stupid like that. But she's probably going to cop an attitude...so I wouldn't count on seeing them again.

 

[Findog]

Charge it to the game.

Either that or keep bugging her to give them back to you. Be polite at first...if that doesn't work, threaten to file a police report or something stupid like that. But she's probably going to cop an attitude...so I wouldn't count on seeing them again.

We're in agreement though that something is off with her, right? Why would she get offended? I don't see where I implied that the books only meant a potential $5 cash out at Half Price and I only do good deeds for money. And was it really necessary to initiate a nasty exchange if she wasn't interested in seeing me romantically again?

 

[5string]

Feel fortunate that all she got were your sunglasses. She could have taken your manhood, self esteem and sanity.

 

[Buddha_Mind]

Sounds like a crazy b!tch; why not give her your mailing address and see if she follows through? She could just never get around to it...sounds like a mind_fvcker though....

Here's what you do,

CALL her rather than text...

Say:

1. Our family has spoken -- we are willing to meet the ransom -- what are your conditions? ..see how she responds..

...IDK man, the fact that some "old man is giving her gifts" sounds like she's a complete attention wh0re. I dated a girl like this -- swooned even for old-man attention...really a creepy prospect and could have something to do with "daddy issues". Maybe that text was a sh!t test by her -- and sarcasm can be misinterpreted hard to understand via text -- voice:voice is the best gauge beyond being in person.

I don't think you did anything wrong here -- in fact you sound like a pretty honest down-to-earth person and you just want your sunglasses back...sounds like she's being a nasty b!tch about it, and truth be told, this is just a taste of what you'd experience if you dated her or ended on a sour note with her...she'd keep all the sh!t she could pack away of yours if she had the chance.

Get your sunglasses back man! Try some humor to up her IL enough just to get those fvcking glasses back and bail...

Anyone have any suggestions to help Findog with some c0cky humor to get her to release the iron-grip of her vagina?

 

[Buddha_Mind]

Feel fortunate that all she got were your sunglasses. She could have taken your manhood, self esteem and sanity.

^^ This is gold ^^

 

[Findog]

Sounds like a crazy b!tch; why not give her your mailing address and see if she follows through? She could just never get around to it...sounds like a mind_fvcker though....

Here's what you do,

CALL her rather than text...

Say:

1. Our family has spoken -- we are willing to meet the ransom -- what are your conditions? ..see how she responds..

...IDK man, the fact that some "old man is giving her gifts" sounds like she's a complete attention wh0re. I dated a girl like this -- swooned even for old-man attention...really a creepy prospect and could have something to do with "daddy issues". Maybe that text was a sh!t test by her -- and sarcasm can be misinterpreted hard to understand via text -- voice:voice is the best gauge beyond being in person.

I don't think you did anything wrong here -- in fact you sound like a pretty honest down-to-earth person and you just want your sunglasses back...sounds like she's being a nasty b!tch about it, and truth be told, this is just a taste of what you'd experience if you dated her or ended on a sour note with her...she'd keep all the sh!t she could pack away of yours if she had the chance.

Get your sunglasses back man! Try some humor to up her IL enough just to get those fvcking glasses back and bail...

Anyone have any suggestions to help Findog with some c0cky humor to get her to release the iron-grip of her vagina?

I texted her back my mailing address last night. I'm going to wait a few days, then politely text her asking if she's mailed them yet. And then if she says she hasn't gotten around to it or ignores me, then I'll offer to meet her in public in her city briefly to exchange the glasses. Would it be worth it file a police report if she doesn't cooperate? I have her name, phone #, text messages and picture evidence that she my property, acknowledges it and promises to return it.

 

[Findog]

Anyone have any suggestions to help Findog with some c0cky humor to get her to release the iron-grip of her vagina?

All I want at this point are my glasses back. No interest in sticking my d*** in crazy.

 

[Buddha_Mind]

All I want at this point are my glasses back. No interest in sticking my d*** in crazy.

LOL man, no I was more suggesting that this girl has a stick up her @ss (my analogy may have not been best there)...I was also suggesting maybe there is some way of taking a humor-approach that she'd be willing to meet you and give you the glasses...

I think you're doing the right thing..police report would be a viable option, although I'm never a fan of turning to police unless it is a DIRE need -- I would say see how she responds and again, I would suggest trying to call her rather than text.

 

[scrouds]

fail hard. You wanted somethign from a woman. So you went the beta route, and failed any and all **** tests. Sex, sunglasses, milk money. The game doesn't change because the goods change.

This shiit isn't just a shortcut to getting laid, its a new mindset, a new way of living your life. Use it everywhere, not because it helps you get laid, but because it makes you a stronger man. And stronger men get what they want more often.

Whether or not you actually get your sunglasses back, use this as a hard lesson. The way women act and react to strength and power doesn't end at the quest to get laid. This stuff works in business, in the bedroom and everything in between.

 

[Findog]

fail hard. You wanted somethign from a woman. So you went the beta route, and failed any and all **** tests. Sex, sunglasses, milk money. The game doesn't change because the goods change.

This shiit isn't just a shortcut to getting laid, its a new mindset, a new way of living your life. Use it everywhere, not because it helps you get laid, but because it makes you a stronger man. And stronger men get what they want more often.

Whether or not you actually get your sunglasses back, use this as a hard lesson. The way women act and react to strength and power doesn't end at the quest to get laid. This stuff works in business, in the bedroom and everything in between.

Aren't all bets off though when somebody shows themselves to be nuts? I hear it many times from guys "All women are crazy to some degree or another," but there are levels of craziness. I feel the way she reacted to my offer about donating books, when I was trying to be helpful, was completely inappropriate. It doesn't sound like what she did was a sh*t test to me, it sounds like the girl has issues. Either she was no longer interested in seeing me romantically, which is fine, but a mature adult doesn't need to manufacture drama over some contrived "offense" to call it quits, or she's nuts.

How would you have handled it? Technically she was the first to bring the glasses up when she responded to my comment about donating books by asking for an address and telling me she'd mail them. At that point I didn't want to get into an argument and try to "win" it, or do anything more to antagonize an obviously crazy person, so I figured just kill her with kindness. I would have told her off if she didn't have something I wanted back. If I was a beta doormat, I'd still be trying to sleep with her. I completely lost interest once she responded the way that she did.

 

[Findog]

Just to follow up on why I made a tactical decision to go uber-beta:

Just to use an analogy, in the last episode of Breaking Bad, Jesse gets a sawed-off pointed in his face when he tries to retrieve meth from a house full of tweakers. I'm dealing with crazy here and I'm trying to save myself $150 to replace them. She would already have been called a c*** for flying off the handle and insulting me if she didn't have my Ray Bans. This is not a normal, well-adjusted adult, even by female standards.

 

[Sue Madre]

I bet you will never get them back. She has probably already sold them or sat on them.

 

[Findog]

I bet you will never get them back. She has probably already sold them or sat on them.

I can certainly file a police report, right? Would the police even give a crap about something like that?

 

[Buddha_Mind]

I think the sh!t test she was throwing was, if I give this guy a line about old men and books, will he donate? IE, will be appease my demands? You did, thus she lost more respect for you...I agree with your comments, she does not sound well-adjusted, and she definitely sounds like a crazy person entirely -- but I think that may have been her subconscious/conscious basis for such a fvcked up scenario text to you...and I agree she sounds evil -- and further I will say, don't kick yourself in the @ss because I have fallen for some real terrible sh!t tests in my day...but I'm learning.

I'd say see what other responses people contribute before you go and call the police. I'm sure you could -- and maybe you should -- but again, I'm a fan of settling things without authority if it can be done.

You could just try taking a mean approach too and saying flat out "I want my sunglasses back. I'll call the cops if I don't see them by mail next week".

She definitely was a b.tch to you in her response "Nevermind. Sell them to Half Price.."

 

[Sue Madre]

I can certainly file a police report, right? Would the police even give a crap about something like that?

I don't think they would care. I think the police report advice was just to scare her into giving them back. Or was it serious?

 

[Findog]

I think the sh!t test she was throwing was, if I give this guy a line about old men and books, will he donate? IE, will be appease my demands? You did, thus she lost more respect for you...I agree with your comments, she does not sound well-adjusted, and she definitely sounds like a crazy person entirely -- but I think that may have been her subconscious/conscious basis for such a fvcked up scenario text to you...and I agree she sounds evil -- and further I will say, don't kick yourself in the @ss because I have fallen for some real terrible sh!t tests in my day...but I'm learning.

I'd say see what other responses people contribute before you go and call the police. I'm sure you could -- and maybe you should -- but again, I'm a fan of settling things without authority if it can be done.

You could just try taking a mean approach too and saying flat out "I want my sunglasses back. I'll call the cops if I don't see them by mail next week".

She definitely was a b.tch to you in her response "Nevermind. Sell them to Half Price.."

I understand the concept of sh*t tests, but even if it is a sh*t test, this is not a quality person and no matter what I did, I would have failed it. If I had said "No, I don't have any books to donate," even after we've extensively discussed literature in the process of getting to know each other and exchanged books (she has a paperback of mine as well that I really don't care about writing off), then she'd accuse me of being selfish. There are some "sh*t tests" that I think are damned if you do, damned if you don't. And I don't understand how in the moment it could have been perceived as a sh*t test. "Hey, do you have some old books you can donate to an elderly man building a library?" My thought process was "Sure, what the eff do I care? I have some books collecting dust on my shelf."

 

[Findog]

I think the sh!t test she was throwing was, if I give this guy a line about old men and books, will he donate? IE, will be appease my demands? You did, thus she lost more respect for you...I agree with your comments, she does not sound well-adjusted, and she definitely sounds like a crazy person entirely -- but I think that may have been her subconscious/conscious basis for such a fvcked up scenario text to you...and I agree she sounds evil -- and further I will say, don't kick yourself in the @ss because I have fallen for some real terrible sh!t tests in my day...but I'm learning.

I'd say see what other responses people contribute before you go and call the police. I'm sure you could -- and maybe you should -- but again, I'm a fan of settling things without authority if it can be done.

You could just try taking a mean approach too and saying flat out "I want my sunglasses back. I'll call the cops if I don't see them by mail next week".

She definitely was a b.tch to you in her response "Nevermind. Sell them to Half Price.."

I understand the concept of sh*t tests, but even if it is a sh*t test, this is not a quality person and no matter what I did, I would have failed it. If I had said "No, I don't have any books to donate," even after we've extensively discussed literature in the process of getting to know each other and exchanged books (she has a paperback of mine as well that I really don't care about writing off), then she'd accuse me of being selfish. There are some "sh*t tests" that I think are damned if you do, damned if you don't. And I don't understand how in the moment it could have been perceived as a sh*t test. "Hey, do you have some old books you can donate to an elderly man building a library?" My thought process was "Sure, what the eff do I care? I have some books collecting dust on my shelf."