almost 29, am I getting too old to pick up girls 18-22?

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

I've seen a direct correlation to needing to wear an eyepatch since 2015 and the attention women pay me. Teens come up to me and tell me I look like a boss in their video games. Nincompoops make pirate-related comments and noises, but they're easy to ignore. Women think I look badass in a positive way and they feel safe with me. I took to wearing a cap or hat to make my patch less visible.

Own it. Start wearing body armour.

https://www.youtube.com/@jarrettstod

If I was you, I'd get a crosshairs.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Has anyone on this board ever been single at 39-ish, with three-ish kids, work in a premier company at a landmark office location in Manhattan or similar and successfully been able to lock up an early to mid 20’s smoke that had a legitimate interest in a long term situation? I feel like the dynamics of the situation require a schoolteacher or something like that. To be sure, I am not talking about pumping and dumping college students. Been there, done that. Reasons I am asking is the aging of the body after age 30, the fact that being single at 30+ almost speaks for itself, and while there are great qualities and whatnot, just always thinking about ways to improve. Not saying the current situation doesn’t work. Don’t get me wrong.

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

How about motorcycle leathers"
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You need to gain about 100 lbs.

 

[SmoothSmooth]

It's possible that I am out of touch.

I am a 40 year old man who has been in unmarried relationships and seducing women for 24 years.

I think that I'm more in touch with the current environment than a 34-40 year old man who has been in the same relationship for 10 or more years.

That said, you are 10 years younger than I am and it's possible that you have a better sense of 18-22 year olds or 18-24 year olds than I have.



Tell me more about this. When I was in college (2001-2005 for undergrad), the most common ways college students dated was with other college students on campus. It seems convenient for college students to date each other since there are a lot of unmarried people on campus. Back in the 2001-2005 undergrad era, I did observe that just because a woman has a marital status of 'single', it does not mean she's available. In that way, I perceived that college dating was a bit overrated in that era because a lot of women I interacted with on campus were in relationships while they were on campus. Most of them didn't end up marrying their college era boyfriends.



It is possible that you're overrating how often the flying out stuff happens? My sense is that you are. I think only a very small percentage of women are being flown out somewhere or using Seeking or similar services for sugar type relationships.

Random sex on spring break happened in my era in college. It usually happened with another college student at some spring break destination. The two people often don't go to the same college while having their random spring break sex. They have their random spring break sex 1-2 nights, go back to their respective universities, and then go on with life.

I’m trying to tell you, but it’s like you don’t want to listen. If you sincerely want to understand I can tell you more.
the hottest women (girls that are 8s and above), know they are too hot to participate in regular dating. These are the girls that don’t date guys in college (unless it’s a complete total package alpha) because they intrinsically feel superior to the social circle they are forced to be in via education. These girls spend their free time going to the top restaurants, clubs, parties etc to satiate their hypergamy. These girls are going to be much more biologically attracted to a 33 year old on instagram that has pictures in private jets and doing important things than a college guy. They don’t even ask about his age, they just look at men objectively. So if he looks good, age is irrelevant, because he looks good and that alone is worthy of respect (most men are invisible to women). Looking good in a woman’s eyes isn’t just about pure aesthetics but more so grooming, posture, self care, clothing, etc things which often come naturally to men with money and success.

most ‘hot’ women now have very highly developed online profiles, professional photos on vacations, in clubs etc; it’s literally their whole life. Why do you think that is? Their social media is a much more effective tool for hypergamy than their college network or anything they can do in real life.
So they are very open to men adding them on instagram if the guys profile is better than hers from a social power perspective.

when I say getting ‘flown own’ I don’t mean literally being flowing out like hooker. What I mean is, women from smaller cities are looking at men in better cities. The girls in New Jersey are looking at guys in Manhattan. Yes, sometimes a guy might pay for a flight or getaway after a few weeks of talking, if the girl is in college. Thats no different than paying for an expensive meal etc and a lot of girls online will see it as a token of respect/appreciation since you’re a stranger on the internet.
it makes more sense for her to date an exciting rich man in another city, get flown out a few times a year etc than a local college bro. It’s more exciting, more romantic etc
not all girls are looking at guys out in Paris or London (but some are), but most are looking at guys at least in a better city which isn’t too far away.

instagram has given the top 10% of 30 - 40 year old men much more power in the dating market than 20 year olds because a 25 year guy has what on his profile? A few gym selfies, pictures with friends and the occasional cheap vacation. But a top 10% 37 year old is in the most expensive gym and spa in town 3 times a week, eating out at nice restaurants, taking pictures with high value people (eg if he’s a surgeon, taking pics with other surgeons at conferences) has a crib, sports car , possible in better shape and 10 years worth of accomplishments to post about on his page (vs the 25 year old who’s future is uncertain)
Who do you think she’s going to be chasing

when you forget about game/seduction and look at it from a more authentic perspective - ultimately women want to date men that they respect, that they want to be like, that they can learn from and they can experience new things with.
A 22 year old guy is not your competition for the top women. The 34 year old EX-NFL player that now owns a successful security business is.

the way modern dating works now is women will have 2-3 high value men on their social media who they are watching and interested in. They will test them ruthhlessly (often with mixed signals/thirst traps etc) and then meet the one that passes the tests and peaks their interest by the content they post.
they’ll be open to sleeping with that guy fast when they meet, because she feels she knows him well (from the content he posts daily) and has tested him very hard against other high value men.

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

I’m trying to tell you, but it’s like you don’t want to listen. If you sincerely want to understand I can tell you more.
the hottest women (girls that are 8s and above), know they are too hot to participate in regular dating. These are the girls that don’t date guys in college (unless it’s a complete total package alpha) because they intrinsically feel superior to the social circle they are forced to be in via education. These girls spend their free time going to the top restaurants, clubs, parties etc to satiate their hypergamy. These girls are going to be much more biologically attracted to a 33 year old on instagram that has pictures in private jets and doing important things than a college guy. They don’t even ask about his age, they just look at men objectively. So if he looks good, age is irrelevant, because he looks good and that alone is worthy of respect (most men are invisible to women). Looking good in a woman’s eyes isn’t just about pure aesthetics but more so grooming, posture, self care, clothing, etc things which often come naturally to men with money and success.

most ‘hot’ women now have very highly developed online profiles, professional photos on vacations, in clubs etc; it’s literally their whole life. Why do you think that is? Their social media is a much more effective tool for hypergamy than their college network or anything they can do in real life.
So they are very open to men adding them on instagram if the guys profile is better than hers from a social power perspective.

when I say getting ‘flown own’ I don’t mean literally being flowing out like hooker. What I mean is, women from smaller cities are looking at men in better cities. The girls in New Jersey are looking at guys in Manhattan. Yes, sometimes a guy might pay for a flight or getaway after a few weeks of talking, if the girl is in college. Thats no different than paying for an expensive meal etc and a lot of girls online will see it as a token of respect/appreciation since you’re a stranger on the internet.
it makes more sense for her to date an exciting rich man in another city, get flown out a few times a year etc than a local college bro. It’s more exciting, more romantic etc
not all girls are looking at guys out in Paris or London (but some are), but most are looking at guys at least in a better city which isn’t too far away.

OR just be a cvcky funny dude and pull them without money or status.

 

[SmoothSmooth]

OR just be a cvcky funny dude and pull them without money or status.

kissing girls means nothing dude. I have had nights out where I made out with 4-5 girls and never heard from them again. He also has a camera crew with him which makes girls do things for the sake of it.
I’m talking about getting the top women and how they think and operate.
If YOU were a beautiful woman, you wouldn’t be stupid enough to give your most coveted asset (your body) to a random guy with a camera or pua. You’d screen hard and look for the total package.
The same amount of effort you as a guy put into getting girls, girls do the same into getting the best man they can
If you disagree - then where is your 22 year old model girlfriend?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Just curious about this, as this is generally the age bracket I'm most physically attacted to. However, as I'm nearing 30, I'm wondering how realistic it is to be hooking up with girls this young on a regular basis.

Depends on you.

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

kissing girls means nothing dude. I have had nights out where I made out with 4-5 girls and never heard from them again. He also has a camera crew with him which makes girls do things for the sake of it.
I’m talking about getting the top women and how they think and operate.
If YOU were a beautiful woman, you wouldn’t be stupid enough to give your most coveted asset (your body) to a random guy with a camera or pua. You’d screen hard and look for the total package.
The same amount of effort you as a guy put into getting girls, girls do the same into getting the best man they can
If you disagree - then where is your 22 year old model girlfriend?

me @ 30, she was 21. Pics or it didn't happen.


My ex's father had a jet. He owns a hotel chain in Mexico.

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

Op I was 35 in this pic.

Does anyone know how to shrink pics by any chance? I didn't think it was fair for Amsterdam to be the only one posting pics.

If you're not fun, you gotta be rich. Go to the anime con's and have FUN. People will naturally want to be a part of the guy who is having the most fun at a party. Instagram, all that bs doesn't matter when she sees something fun and exciting right infront of her. I learned everything I needed from David D and the Pook.

Rich guys are BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING because they think like Smooth here. Women don't want guys like that, they want his money... after the 3 or 4th purse, 10th expensive dinner and a ride in a Ferrari, they're bored. After you run out of new shiny things to give her then what? I work with extremely rich people, the women don't need more money, it doesn't do anything for them, and they crave excitement. Rich people need to buy their friends, that's why they goto Host clubs. No one would hang out with them otherwise. They want the guy who is naturally fun to be around, the guy they want to take pictures with. They want a guy who can enjoy himself with nothing, and they'll be happy with a slice of pizza and a drink box just to sit next to him. You can bust your ass for a car and a jet but without it, what are you? A loser.

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

For what exactly?

I think you'd look better with some weight.

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

I know I don't. You're just used to dating fat men.

Whatever you say bean pole.

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

That's what I mean.
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Only a fat 'Murican would call me a bean pole.

Guilty.

 

[SW15]

If you sincerely want to understand I can tell you more.

Yes, I do sincerely want to understand and I appreciated the explanation.

women from smaller cities are looking at men in better cities. The girls in New Jersey are looking at guys in Manhattan.

I can see that. Also, women in college can look at guys more easily outside of campus. If a woman attends a college in a bigger city, she can interact with men outside campus even more easily than in the pre-smartphone and pre-social media era. A good example of this would be UCLA and USC women dating more top tier Los Angeles men.

Their social media is a much more effective tool for hypergamy than their college network or anything they can do in real life.

Back in 2001-2005 when I was in undergrad, most women were limited to dating on-campus. Even in a place like Los Angeles, it was still less common for UCLA and USC students to be dating random Los Angeles men.

Women can get far more and far higher value options by using both swipe apps and Instagram. Instagram would be more of the higher value play.

the hottest women (girls that are 8s and above), know they are too hot to participate in regular dating.

I saw plenty of 8+ women in the 18-22 range on campus in my time in college.

There can even be 8+ women age 23 and even into early 30s.

8+ women who are 18-22 now have it easier dating outside of the college campus because of social media, mainly Instagram. Pre-social media, they could meet men in the city where their college was via nightlife, and a lot of 21-22 year olds did that. In cities like New York, Los Angeles, Dallas, and Miami, the nightlife plan worked. If it was 2003 and you were in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, that wasn't going to work.

instagram has given the top 10% of 30 - 40 year old men much more power in the dating market than 20 year olds because a 25 year guy has what on his profile? A few gym selfies, pictures with friends and the occasional cheap vacation. But a top 10% 37 year old is in the most expensive gym and spa in town 3 times a week, eating out at nice restaurants, taking pictures with high value people (eg if he’s a surgeon, taking pics with other surgeons at conferences) has a crib, sports car , possible in better shape and 10 years worth of accomplishments to post about on his page (vs the 25 year old who’s future is uncertain)
Who do you think she’s going to be chasing

The bottom 90% of 30-40 year old men are fighting hard for pussie options close to their own age, not the 18-24s.

Your point about the top 10% of 30-40 year olds would be valid. Agree with all the examples you used. Those are good details.

 

[Borknagar]

Just curious about this, as this is generally the age bracket I'm most physically attacted to. However, as I'm nearing 30, I'm wondering how realistic it is to be hooking up with girls this young on a regular basis.

At 31 I had an 18 year old, at 33 I had a 19 year old at 31 I had a 20 year old at 32 I had a 21. I'm rationally sure there's more.

Now I'm 44 and out of the game for years and have been struggling with anxiety. It's literally only been the last couple weeks after I've got help on that that I'm feeling the same way I did years ago but actually better.

But either way. The more you doubt yourself the more you'll have failure. I need to tell myself this all the time but it's true.

You're topic is age, someone could also ask "I'm 35, I just make 20 an hour in a factory and live with a roommate and drive a **** car", the subject being money.

Now your subject isn't so depressing, but the advice is pretty much the same.