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Haha, I'm tired of going through all the BS with girls and yeah, I just want to finally get laid. So I'm probably going to take that "words don't mean sh*t" concept a little further tommorow and let girls know my intentions when I approach them. Something like "Well, let's be honest, I approached you because I thought you were attractive and yes I want to get in your pants, but I want to know a bit about you before I do". I'm also just gonna plain escalate more. Because I'm tired of lying to myself and girls.

So basically I'm gonna be honest with them on WHY I'm approaching. Yeah, sometimes I approach because I just want to find a girl to hang with, but right now, I want to do more than hang! I want to get a kiss! I want to get laid. And girls blow me out for that line, who cares. Atleast I'm being honest with them.
 

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Elstud i dont think you are being forward enough. Tommorow when you do it, make sure you are wearing nothing but a man thong. Also, get some of those free condoms and ask her which one she prefers after you tell her your intentions. Oh and tell her you want to film the whole thing for your own collection of porn.

Or you can stop being random all the time and grow up. It may be easier to get laid if you cut out the yoshi crap and talked to them about **** that keeps their interest. Then their number wont be fake'

That was mean but i dont care im getting tired of his dumb posts
 

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ElStud said:
Something like "Well, let's be honest, I approached you because I thought you were attractive and yes I want to get in your pants, but I want to know a bit about you before I do"

NO! WHY!?

Why the f*ck would you say something like that, im being real this time ElStud, Im trying to give you honest advice SO TAKE IT.

Women already know that you want to get in their pants, thats why when a true stud comes along and isn't fazed by her beauty and makes it known that he doesnt only want sex (even though, in the back of his mind, its all he wants) she gets attracted! She starts to think "why isnt this guy drooling over me like all the other guys"

When you tell the girl your there to get in her pants, YOUR SETTING YOURSELF UP FOR REJECTION and you get the opposite effect that your going for, she now thinks your a loser and a creep/tool for telling her your pursuing her for her goods and not "herself"

What your about to do is WRONG, absolutely WRONG. You can go ahead and say that im not allowed to give advice, but hey, Im pretty damn sure the advice I gave you above is spot on.

Do what you want man, Im trying to save you from more rejection, but if you do try this, tell us how it went...
 

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NO! WHY!?

Why the f*ck would you say something like that, im being real this time ElStud, Im trying to give you honest advice SO TAKE IT.

Women already know that you want to get in their pants, thats why when a true stud comes along and isn't fazed by her beauty and makes it known that he doesnt only want sex (even though, in the back of his mind, its all he wants) she gets attracted! She starts to think "why isnt this guy drooling over me like all the other guys"

When you tell the girl your there to get in her pants, YOUR SETTING YOURSELF UP FOR REJECTION and you get the opposite effect that your going for, she now thinks your a loser and a creep/tool for telling her your pursuing her for her goods and not "herself"

What your about to do is WRONG, absolutely WRONG. You can go ahead and say that im not allowed to give advice, but hey, Im pretty damn sure the advice I gave you above is spot on.

Do what you want man, Im trying to save you from more rejection, but if you do try this, tell us how it went...
Your advice is spot on and yet you don't go out. Right...

Anyway, I'm just being the honest with the girls. Honestly, as it is I'm being too friendly with the girl. And it's not the random thing that's the problem. Infact, the random sh*t gets a lot of interest as you guys saw when I got the number using it in the other FR's. But the problem is I'm a p*ssy when it comes to escalation.

Seriously though, enough of this "Hey, how're you doing?" BS. I want to get straight to the point of why I'm there with the girl, so she doesn't misinterpret me as just wanting friendship. And so sets will blow me out. Who gives a f*ck, I'd rather be honest about my intentions and if she doesn't blow me out after that, THEN, start interacting.

I'm also going to f*ck guides and just try fast escalation. Why ditch guides? Because in my approach I'm constantly saying "Well DiCarlo's Escalation Latter says..." and yeah, I'm like f*ck that sh*t, I just want to escalate.

Or you can stop being random all the time and grow up. It may be easier to get laid if you cut out the yoshi crap and talked to them about **** that keeps their interest. Then their number wont be fake'

That was mean but i dont care im getting tired of his dumb posts
Great, you somehow know the numbers were fake.
 

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please youtube some of your attempts so we can all enjoy it
 

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ElStud said:
Your advice is spot on and yet you don't go out. Right...
Wow.......just wow....

Go ahead and tell her you want to get in her pants, go dance like a monkey, make yoshi noises, and pretend to slay dragons, you queer.

Your NEVER getting laid. EVER.

This is the last time I try to give advice to you. From now on, I will simply make fun of you like I have always been doing, because you are absolutely pathetic, and your fail reports are utterly disgusting (yet entertaining) to read.

I cant believe a tool like you actually approaches women the way you do. Your a creep, and will never change. Ask anyone, ANYONE, my advice was 100% correct, and just because I dont "go out" doesnt mean its not true, the advice wouldn't be any different if I posted it or if Mystery himself, f*cking posting it, ITS STILL TRUE.

Well ElFag...have fun being a creep, your palm will continue to be your best friend...forever
 

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Wow.......just wow....

Go ahead and tell her you want to get in her pants, go dance like a monkey, make yoshi noises, and pretend to slay dragons, you queer.

Your NEVER getting laid. EVER.

This is the last time I try to give advice to you. From now on, I will simply make fun of you like I have always been doing, because you are absolutely pathetic, and your fail reports are utterly disgusting (yet entertaining) to read.

I cant believe a tool like you actually approaches women the way you do. Your a creep, and will never change. Ask anyone, ANYONE, my advice was 100% correct, and just because I dont "go out" doesnt mean its not true, the advice wouldn't be any different if I posted it or if Mystery himself, f*cking posting it, ITS STILL TRUE.

Well ElFag...have fun being a creep, your palm will continue to be your best friend...forever
Translation: Blah blah blah I'm gonna call you a queer for no reason.

Blah blah blah because you don't take my sketchy advice you won't get laid. Funny thing is I've probably never been laid but I'm giving advice on how to get laid.

Blah blah blah, I don't go out and my girlfriends not giving me head, so why don't I take my anger out on someone who does go out?

Blah blah blah I'm gonna continue hating on him by calling him a tool. Though I've never talked to him I know he's a creep. Let's ignore the fact that he gets many more numbers than I'll ever get and he over all has more experience with women. Based off of nothing at all my advice is 100% true.
 

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Isn't this the same guy who not too long ago said "getting to know a girl is better then getting in her pants"?

BTW, how did the two dates go??
 

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TheBaconator said:
Isn't this the same guy who not too long ago said "getting to know a girl is better then getting in her pants"?

BTW, how did the two dates go??
One date never happened and I was just like f*ck it and chilled. I don't even know if I want to go on the date I scheduled for tommorow. The girls are really excited for it, but in my mood, I don't even know if I want to do it, unless I can isolate.
 

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ElStud said:
Translation: Blah blah blah I'm gonna call you a queer for no reason.

Blah blah blah because you don't take my sketchy advice you won't get laid. Funny thing is I've probably never been laid but I'm giving advice on how to get laid.

Blah blah blah, I don't go out and my girlfriends not giving me head, so why don't I take my anger out on someone who does go out?

Blah blah blah I'm gonna continue hating on him by calling him a tool. Though I've never talked to him I know he's a creep. Based off of nothing at all my advice is 100% true.
Based of nothing? Im basing this off your creepy and HORRIBLE FAIL REPORTS!

Sketchy advice? Ask anyone on the forum, the advice I gave your monkey ass was spot on, but your too much of a self centered b1tch to take it.

Im not taking my anger out on anyone, im trying to get decent advice through your thick ass skull.

Im also not giving you advice on how to get laid, because the truth is, you will never get laid. Im giving you advice on how to turn your creepy and lame ass approaches into semi-decent ones, without looking and sounding like a total retard (seems impossible) but no....your still a tool, and will continue to be.

Hey here's another thought, why don't you worry about your education, which will take you farther in life, instead of making yoshi noises...
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

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You don't tell a girl you want to fvck her and set off her ASD. You lead her to getting fvcked. Well since you don't know how to lead and refuse to learn, you'd be ahead to going back to making Yoshi noises when you approach girls.
 

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You are in college!!!! ALCOHOL!!!! WEED!!!! GO TO PARTIES!!!! At least if you are hammered you would have an excuse to act like a complete boor.
 

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ElStud said:
One date never happened and I was just like f*ck it and chilled. I don't even know if I want to go on the date I scheduled for tommorow. The girls are really excited for it, but in my mood, I don't even know if I want to do it, unless I can isolate.

You say one date didn't happen, so what about the other? Did you cancel it because you were in a pissy mood?

And tommorow do you have a date or a hangout with 2 girls? There's a big difference.
 

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Guys stop hating on him-- i know its really easy to since he's socially awkward and doesn't know how to talk to women.. but he needs advice, not bashing..


anyway bro, your acting way too desperate. If you act like you don't need sex from 'said' girl, it will actually make her more sexually attracted to you.

Show your masculinity but dont act sex-craved.
 

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HandyAndy said:
Based of nothing? Im basing this off your creepy and HORRIBLE FAIL REPORTS!

Sketchy advice? Ask anyone on the forum, the advice I gave your monkey ass was spot on, but your too much of a self centered b1tch to take it.

Im not taking my anger out on anyone, im trying to get decent advice through your thick ass skull.

Im also not giving you advice on how to get laid, because the truth is, you will never get laid. Im giving you advice on how to turn your creepy and lame ass approaches into semi-decent ones, without looking and sounding like a total retard (seems impossible) but no....your still a tool, and will continue to be.

Hey here's another thought, why don't you worry about your education, which will take you farther in life, instead of making yoshi noises...
One guy on this forum put it perfectly "If you don't go out and you're criticizing someone who does, shame on you" or something like that. You say you're not angry, but if you truly weren't there'd be no reason for flames like "Thick ass skull" you're angry at something man.

And anyone's advice can be "on spot(Which yours is still far from)". But ever since you joined the forum, your advice has been very sketchy. You kind of remind me of an older member who doesn't post anymore, Grand Wizard Alamar. He would always post advice, but unlike you, he atleast admitted that he had no idea what he was talking about. Why don't you get laid first, then criticize somebody on getting laid.
 

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you guys are all wasting your time.
 

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Hey man i think u shud go through with it. Now i am not telling u its going to work, because u know what everyones different, things that wud look totally stupid for one person wud b very successful for another. I believe u can say anything and with the right mind set with the approach it will succeed. So yeh try it out, now people can make assumptions what will work and what will not work, but the only way u will find out is experience.

Now two things can happen.

A. its going to go totally terrible and she will probablly just ignore u and walk off. (i personally think the approach if anywhere wud b best in a bar, but i never tried it on street so it might work.)

B. Its going to go brilliant and u r going to evolve this technique even more direct and more better.

U said u wanted to go direct though, i will give u some openers that worked for me and i used to seriously suck at direct game got rejected 40 times in a row at one point, but now more than often i succeed and is one of my strong points.

1. I just couldn't go on my day without meeting u (this line works wonders, then just say something like "and i am also kinda curious why u got sunglasses in the shade, is it because u wanna have that whole kool aura going".

2. Hey i wasn't going to come over, but i decided to anyway

3. hey just wanted to talk to u

4. hey i am going to talk to u, but i have a problem i kinda get really shy round pretty women *fake hand shake* look there goes the shaking (sarcastic), so u know don't expect much.....ummm yeh nice weather we r having huh.....jk why u wear so much yellow, u know what they say about the color yellow".

5. I am not use to this usually girls approach me, so u know think u got lead me through this, do i ask whats ur name or talk about the weather first?


Customize those lines to suit u and the situation. Remember all direct is, is stating ur interest first and then its exactlly like indirect. Thats my style, ur style might b totally different.

something like

"hey ur cute i wanted to talk to u, (then change to indirect comment something on her)"

Also btw i am going to mention, if u keep on approaching like u do at ur rate and don't make excuses, u will b probablly one of the best seducers on this site. Remember think with ur mind and not fear, u can never know if something dosn't work unless u try it out. Like lets just say u see awkward situation where theres a mixed set, how wud u seriously know it will go wrong unless u try it?. Don't assume it won't work, try it and if its bad all the times u try it, u can go ok this is waste of my energy i will approach these 2 girls over here instead. U have to think with experience and not afc thoughts. So if u screw this up yeh u can go it didn't work the few times i tried it, i will change my approach a bit and see the improvements.

U have to find a balance, now u r going to get advice from these people, now they can say what won't work, u don't necessairly have to believe that, they will probablly say this will work better. Now don't just argue with them and go noooo that won't work my way better, because ur then no better than anyone else. Take there advice go in field with it, come back and u can say whatever u like

a. hey that advice u gav me was pretty good, didn't believe it wud work at first but wow i was suprised. Thanks.

b. Hey that advice u gave me didn't work and my way did work, i am guessing that method just don't work out for me, but thank you for giving me something to try out.

c. Hey my way didn't work and neither did urs, u got anymore suggestions? Thanks.

Experience backs up theorys, u can't go in law room and jus say random **** with no evidence makes ur case unreliable and dodgy. So no shooting peoples ideas has soon has they give them to u, with out no experience of ur own to say it won't work. Give people a chance and they will do the same. Solve that part of ur game and u will b a master, i have eyes that never r wrong and i can see potential when i c it, what u decide to do is up to, i am just here to show u whats on the table, nothing more nothing less.
 
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ElStud,

I saw the title of your thread, read your first post, and scrolled down to see updates to this thread where you actually carried it out. I'm not interested in the other replies to your thread. My guess is that it's full of negative nay-sayers that are trying to discourage you or mock your idea as silly or foolish, or maybe too advanced for you. I do not want to read anything negative, and I think you should not too. I'm not sure if you are just writing ideas on here to have people discourage you and then blame them for not going through with them, or if you really want to express your creative energies.

My suggestion to you is to execute your plan with at least a few different girls, and do a search on the 'SHOCK AND AWE' technique, which is essentially what you plan to do. You need to read field reports on here by your search engines where people are successful with these approaches so you can in turn be encouraged to do them.

So, next time you get an idea, do up a search to see if there are analogous threads that support or encourage that idea, and if other people who tried it and posted field reports are successful with it, then try it out yourself and post a field report here even if it fails. It's actually better if you try something and deliberately set out to fail, that way you can learn something, and maybe you'll get better technical feedback on how you can improve that specific strategy.

Alright -- why don't you just update this thread, or better yet, make a new one, and post your field report results and THEN ask for advice after you try this approach on at least four or five different women. At least people will see that you had the balls to try.
 

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ElStud,

I saw the title of your thread, read your first post, and scrolled down to see updates to this thread where you actually carried it out. I'm not interested in the other replies to your thread. My guess is that it's full of negative nay-sayers that are trying to discourage you or mock your idea as silly or foolish, or maybe too advanced for you. I do not want to read anything negative, and I think you should not too. I'm not sure if you are just writing ideas on here to have people discourage you and then blame them for not going through with them, or if you really want to express your creative energies.

My suggestion to you is to execute your plan with at least a few different girls, and do a search on the 'SHOCK AND AWE' technique, which is essentially what you plan to do. You need to read field reports on here by your search engines where people are successful with these approaches so you can in turn be encouraged to do them.

So, next time you get an idea, do up a search to see if there are analogous threads that support or encourage that idea, and if other people who tried it and posted field reports are successful with it, then try it out yourself and post a field report here even if it fails. It's actually better if you try something and deliberately set out to fail, that way you can learn something, and maybe you'll get better technical feedback on how you can improve that specific strategy.

Alright -- why don't you just update this thread, or better yet, make a new one, and post your field report results and THEN ask for advice after you try this approach on at least four or five different women. At least people will see that you had the balls to try.

Does anybody know how to use the ignore function?
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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