Agent Zero's Daily Approach Journal

[FutureSpartan]

Actually that seemed like a good approach. Just realize that at some level...the girl was flattered by you approaching her. Again that nervousness is just approach anxiety. you will eventually get rid of that once you get enough approaches under your belt.

Brak's advice is good but save the ****y stuff until after you become completely comfortable holding a normal conversation/rapport. A lot of times that can be enough to win the girl.

I just got back from vacation with a lot of approaches under my belt. I will share them later.

 

[wjh]

Definitely a good approach... I just don't think you realized it would have gone that far so you didn't think that far ahead LOL

Keep it up.

 

[FutureSpartan]

Just got back from a 4 day mini-trip from Florida. Me and my family went to orlando and the beach after that.

I made about 13 approaches to girls i found attractive. Nine of them were cold approaches and 4 of them were club approaches. All of them except 4 were receptive to my approach.

It was a logistics nightmare though...
1. They were either too old (one i approached was in her 30's)
2. Too Young (2 that I approached were 15 and 16, they looked older though)
3. The one that was actually my age was with her family (don't want to look like a slut)
4. I was with my family


The one girl that was my age, we really hit it off, I fluffed her for a little while and then we were in the pool flirting and laughing. I wasnt able to close her..i told her to come out later on that night but she told me that she was gonna sleep. I guess I wasnt persistant enough to know whether she was truly interested or just expecting me to work past her objections. she was with her family also so that might have kicked in her conditioning to not hook up.

At the beach I hit up a nightclub alone. I met a group of 2 guys/1 girl from a nearby town. We hit it off well and rolled into the club together. I talked to a group of guys i recognized from my hotel. They seemed cool and one of them bought me a drink, but they did not seem to want to carry the convo when I tried chattin them up, so I left them alone. I approached 4 chicks on the dance floor. 3 of them blew me off. The one i danced with was a cute petite girl. She was kinoing me like crazy and we were dancing extremely close but would not let me kiss her. Her friend was nearby so maybe she did not want to look like a slut.



I did various other approaches on the beach...mostly just practicing my conversation skills and getting comfortable around women. Again the logistics and environment made it nearly impossible to isolate and close.

But my approach anxiety was nearly gone by my last approach and most of the girls were receptive to me. It was a good experience and I hope to carry it in my future approaches at home

 

[jazzpimp]

it sounds like you're doing a great job getting out there and making it happen! Generally, a lot of college girls are just looking for a good time and are less inclined to turn you down, which is great! I have a few tips that will help you ease into some of those more difficult closers. For one, it wouldn't hurt to qualify her with a little more with small talk. Ask her a few general, non-invasive/non-theatening questions that make it seem like you are qualifying her to meet your standards, while also building up simple rapport and her comfort level when it comes down to the close. If you sense that the situation may not call for a quick'n'clean number close or if she's taken, you could interact a while longer and still be able to get her number without being too forward with your interest. Hope this helps!

 

[FutureSpartan]

it sounds like you're doing a great job getting out there and making it happen! Generally, a lot of college girls are just looking for a good time and are less inclined to turn you down, which is great! I have a few tips that will help you ease into some of those more difficult closers. For one, it wouldn't hurt to qualify her with a little more with small talk. Ask her a few general, non-invasive/non-theatening questions that make it seem like you are qualifying her to meet your standards, while also building up simple rapport and her comfort level when it comes down to the close. If you sense that the situation may not call for a quick'n'clean number close or if she's taken, you could interact a while longer and still be able to get her number without being too forward with your interest. Hope this helps!

Thanks!

My approach strategy right now is focusing on general conversation material (ie asking questions about her and building convo from her responses). This is helping me think quicker on my feet while at the same time getting comfortable talking to random hotties.

However I am gonna make some more direct closing approaches to desensitize myself to rejection and approach anxiety.
ex:
"Hi"
"How are you"
"Im FutureSpartan" (ask her for her name)
"Listen I have to run but I would love to get your number and call you sometime"

Im really starting to like the approach journal concept...i like getting feedback and support from you guys.

Now for my report...

I made three approaches today on campus

One girl I approached I did the direct closing approach. She was sitting down on a table outside the student center. I was so close to not approaching until I told myself "ball check!" and went for it. She was engaged but receptive to my approach. I was so glad I followed through.

The nice thing about it was it gave me momentum to approach two more chicks. At that point I kinda had the "dont care anymore what happens" attitude.

I was walking towards the rec center and this hottie was walking behind me so i slowed down and let her catch up. I turned around, said hi, introduced myself. We talked while walking to the science building. I felt very relaxed even though she was in a hurry because she had her final to get to. After our chit chat I number closed her like i did the previous chick. I got the number!

I approached one more girl before i left...same approach but instead she offered her email (she told me she lost her phone on a boating trip). She seemed receptive and happy that i approached her. Success!

I am very proud of my progress...Only a few months ago, my heart would beat like crazy in these situations. Now I feel more in control of my emotions and i feel great about it!

 

[Agent Zero]

Hey FutureSpartan, you might want to start your own journal so people can track your progress and not get us confused!

As for me, I have seen no hot girls lately. It's been raining like 2 days non-stop so that's pretty much the reason and I didn't even leave the apartment yesterday except to go to the gym. I practiced an icebreaker on a not-so-hot girl at the bus stop today just commenting on the non-stop rain, but I don't count that as an approach since I wasn't interested. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't getting too rusty.

 

[Agent Zero]

Alright update, guys. I have not really been slacking, but I just got tired of walking around campus and seeing hardly any girls. I'm still looking to approach, but I'm not putting as much time into it during summer semester.

Approach #5 July 31, 2007

So there is this hottie (9) who rides the same bus I do. I had noticed her for a while, but since I have to ride that bus I was holding off on the approach since I will see her every day. She has dyed hair and wears a lot of make-up which usually I don't like, but it seems to work for her. She dresses sexy too. Ok so today in my class I find out we are basically done for the semester and we only are going to meet like 1 or 2 more times. So I hear that and I think I gotta get down to business cause there is that girl and 2 other girls on the bus I wanted to approach. I leave class and wait for the bus, and she gets to the bus stop later, but is sitting like 30 feet away and near people so I don't approach yet (I was planning on just approaching tomorrow). But, then we get to my stop to get off and I notice she is getting off too. She lives at the next stop so at the time I was thinking maybe she noticed me too and wanted to meet me, but in retrospect I realize she got off cause my stop is the timecheck and she didn't want to wait to go to her stop which is just a short walk. Ok, so you guys want to hear the approach.

I am walking behind her trying to keep up cause she is a fast walker so I'm like 5 feet behind and I'm getting close to my apartment complex so I just call out from behind, "Hey can I ask you a quick question?". I didn't care that she was walking so fast or that she was reaching for her phone. So she looks back and lets me catch up and I ask "are you single?" and she says "No" but she was obviously very flattered and it must've made her day cause I saw her smiling afterwards. Then I told her "I just noticed you on the bus and wanted to meet you. I'm Agent Zero, btw." Her: "I'm HB9". Then I just said have a good day and walked towards my apartment.

So this was a really good approach for me cause I approached a girl from behind without any eye contact and it is someone who I very likely will see on the bus again. Before I was nervous about approaching girls I will see again, but now I really think she'd smile if she saw me again.

 

[Reyaj]

Zero I like the approach and I appreciate your advise on my approach thread. I'm going to use the same similar approach on my next outing.

Do you think asking "are you single" as opposed to "do you have a boyfriend" is any different?

 

[Agent Zero]

It doesn't matter.

 

[Fash]

Agent Zero,

I like your syle. Very direct and effective. I have a friend who does pretty much the same thing all the time, and his success rate it amazing!

The problem is that he CAN NOT approach at night in bars/clubs.

I'm the opposite. I have mad succcess in bars/clubs where it is apparently much harder but I sh*t my self when if comes to approaching during the day!

I have the same problem with worrying about people overhearing it. It sucks!!!

Keep up the good work.

Fash

 

[B4IFURU18?]

Good work, but this whole "are you single" approach is pretty lame imo.

I mean, there are so many other ways to go about doing this, rather than directly asking if they're single within the first two seconds.

Try everything you did, w/o asking if they're single. You'll appear more confident (because you don't give a **** if they're single), and it's less obvious what you're trying to do.

If a girl is single, she'll give you her number 99% of the time with these approaches, and you don't even need to find out if she is single because you'll know that when she gives you her number.

 

[Agent Zero]

Good work, but this whole "are you single" approach is pretty lame imo.

I mean, there are so many other ways to go about doing this, rather than directly asking if they're single within the first two seconds.

Try everything you did, w/o asking if they're single. You'll appear more confident (because you don't give a **** if they're single), and it's less obvious what you're trying to do.

If a girl is single, she'll give you her number 99% of the time with these approaches, and you don't even need to find out if she is single because you'll know that when she gives you her number.

I'd like to try something else, but it's hard to come up with anything when you are just stopping girls you randomly walk by. I'd be happy to hear suggestions.

 

[B4IFURU18?]

I'd like to try something else, but it's hard to come up with anything when you are just stopping girls you randomly walk by. I'd be happy to hear suggestions.

I'm thinking say EVERYTHING you said in approach #1 (original post in this thread) but leave out the whole "are you single?" part.

If she likes you, and is single, you're getting her number. Rest assured she's single if she's giving you her number, or just really digs you. There really isn't a need to find out if she's single or not...she's advertising that by giving you her number.

Otherwise, I think you did a good job. I'm just not big on asking if they're single, I can pretty much find that out within the first 5 minutes w/o asking.

 

[Agent Zero]

Ok so the opener would be "I just wanted to meet you"? I have thought about doing that. I'll probably try it pretty soon.

 

[B4IFURU18?]

Ok so the opener would be "I just wanted to meet you"? I have thought about doing that. I'll probably try it pretty soon.

Heck yes. That's a good opener imo. It's not intimidating, creepy, or abnormal. It's simple conversation, something you'd say to someone you truly want to get to know.

If you wanted to kick it up a notch, you could add: "I noticed you when you walked in, I'd like to know if your personality matches your looks..." or something like that. It's a little more "in depth" for lack of a better word, but it essentially has the same effect...

FWIW, sticking to, "I just wanted to meet you" or, "I couldn't resist meeting you" is a safe bet, and it should work a great percentage of the time.

Go out and kill it this weekend!

 

[Agent Zero]

Alright so fall semester has started up. It's been hot as hell this week and crowded so I haven't done much, but I worked on my daygame a bit earlier.

I was sitting there at the library studying and this girl was in the chair next to me doing the same. After a few minutes I say "what are you studying?" and then we start chatting for a while. We talk about majors, years, ambitions, stuff like that. It was about 10 minutes we talked. She said like "I don't think I've ever randomly shared life stories before" or something to that effect at the end. She wasn't really my type though so I didn't # close. This was good to see how I can do daygame as well and don't have to rely on street game. The opener was so easy.

 

[B4IFURU18?]

Nice work Zero,

See, it really doesn't take much more than: "what are you studying?"

 

[ElStud]

You're going for rapport too soon. If all you do is asks questions, you might as well be interviewing her.

 

[kidkoala]

dude. Don't ask for the number that fast. TAKE. YOUR. TIME. If you ask are you single and she says yes. Say something like great so when are you going to ask me out. CALIBRATE. Don't just ask for the number immediately doesn't make any sense. The girl has to get to know you otherwise why would she even pick up the phone.

 

[Slick101]

Man, it's been a while. I haven't been that lazy, but it's like the girls have disappeared this semester! Plus it's been hot out which has been hampering me. No excuses though!

Approach #2 July 9, 2007

Myself and a woman both turn to walk on the same sidewalk and she is walking slow so I catch up.

Me: Hey can I ask you a question real quick?
Her: Sure
Me: Are you single?
Her: I'm married (shows me ring)
Me: Oh ok, I was just wondering

I felt okay after this approach, but not so great cause she was older, probably in her 30s and afterwards I didn't think she was as attractive and not my type so it was a bad choice to approach. I'd much rather approach college girls. It's kinda awkward too cause she's probably staff/faculty lol. Any approach is good right now to get the first few approaches out of the way and it will get easier.

Like I said not many girls around lately, but I had 2 other chances which I blew today. I saw a hot girl at the bus stop about 20 yards in front of me and I was thinking of walking over, but there were all these big groups for orientation nearby so I decided against it. They probably wouldn't have overheard anyways though. I still don't like approaching when other people can overhear. I felt nervous after the first approach today cause I think someone may have overheard. So that sucked cause she was one of the hottest girls I had seen by herself probably in weeks. Then on the way home I passed a cute girl walking to campus and I was trying to get myself to do it, but I'm still not comfortable with off-campus approaches. I feel like I don't have the trust factor as much off-campus. This is another sticking point I need to work on. Man, I hope it cools down so I can put more time into sarging this week.

BROO>>

Belive me on this... approach directly to the girl even if shes with a group, in a group, NEAR a group...

It shows ALOT of confidence and that Your a MAN,... Not a chearleader :cheer: